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Love-Hounds Digest #11.168

From: Love-Hounds-Request@uunet.UU.NET
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 12:01:29 -0400
Subject: Love-Hounds Digest #11.168
To: Love-Hounds@uunet.UU.NET

In this digest:
                              Re: KT and Rush :-)
                           Re: Rare Kate poster?!?!?
                              Kate and Primus (!)
                      Katemas Parties List - Updated 7/10
                           Love-Hounds Digest #11.167
                           Re: Rare Kate poster?!?!?
                              test, please ignore
                                      urp
                                 KaTemas in NJ
                  "Hounds Of Love" gray marble vinyl for sale
                              A tale of two cities
                             Re: Video Similarities
                           Holiday in Europe/ TREACLE
                               Kate video awards.
                            Release Date: Red Shoes

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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: iblackbn@usit.net (Ian Blackburn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: KT and Rush :-)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:10:09 -0500
Organization: Argyle Gargoyle Ltd.
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> Hmmm... I seem to be all alone on this one... (well, except for this
> person I met at a Katemas do some years ago in Manchester).
> 
> Everybody appears to be, at best, an ex-Rush fan, having been
> converted to Katonians. Surely I can't be all alone in enjoying both?

Nope! I'm a big fan of both. I've seen every Rush tour for the last ten
years (occasionally traveling absurd distances), and I'd be able to say
the same for Kate if there _had_ been any tours.

Cheers!
Ian

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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: iblackbn@usit.net (Ian Blackburn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Rare Kate poster?!?!?
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:13:10 -0500
Organization: Argyle Gargoyle Ltd.
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In article <magus-0807951454320001@fr-926.cc.iastate.edu>,
magus@big12.metrobbs.com (magus) wrote:

> It's of Kate in a workout liatard. Well, he was simply dumbfounded and
> stated how it was super hard to get, etc., etc., drolling, etc., etc., she
> should do a workout video, etc., etc., breath in, breath out, etc., etc..
> ;)

Oh, hell! There were several of those in a record store here that went out
of business last December. I didn't really like it (too cheesecake-esque
for a Kate poster), so I never picked one up.

-Ian

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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: iblackbn@usit.net (Ian Blackburn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Kate and Primus (!)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:23:27 -0500
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Kate was mentioned in the song (Flight of the Parrot, I think; I don't
have the CD in front of me) on the new Primus album:

   I've seen the likes of Kate Bush
   and Van Morrison
   teaching the parrots to sing

(suggesting that Kate and Van Morrison are oft-copied originals)

IMHO, Primus is one of the handful of bands who are qualified to make
comments about originality. I wouldn't have thought Les Claypool to be a
Kate fan, but then again, they're both way out there. :)

-Ian

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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:40:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Karen L. Newcombe" <kln@crl.com>
To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
Cc: kln@crl.com
Subject: Katemas Parties List - Updated 7/10
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ADDED PARTY IN Sunny WOLLONGONG!


when          where              who              for details contact:
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Sun. 7/16/95  Chicago, IL        Chip Lueck &     chip-1@nwu.edu or
                                 Valerie Nozick   (312) 262-4026

Sat. 7/29/95  Boonton, NJ        Meredith & woj   meth@delphi.com or 
                                                  woj@remus.rutgers.edu 

Sat. 7/29/95  Portland, OR       Michael Bowman   bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu

Sat. 7/29/95  Gwynneville,       Graham           (G, what's your email?) 
              Wollongong (That's Australia!)      042-266985

Sun. 7/30/95  Boston, MA         Nancy            TPerry@vmsvax.simmons.edu


Sun. 7/30/95? San Francisco, CA  Bill Wisner      wisner@uunet.uu.net


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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 12:00:07 -0400
Message-Id: <QQyxum16688.199507101600@ftp.UU.NET>
Subject: Love-Hounds Digest #11.167
From: Love-Hounds-Request@uunet.UU.NET
To: Love-Hounds@uunet.UU.NET

In this digest:
                                 Re: No News???
                                    TREACLE
                              TIM with a Vengeance
                        Re: Cocteau Twins/Personal chat
                           Love-Hounds Digest #11.166
                           Love-Hounds Digest #11.165
                           Love-Hounds Digest #11.164
                             Re: Video Similarities
                                KaTemas in Oz!!
                                   Re: MisK.
                              "Mother...." and blankness 
                             Re: letters from Kate

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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:28:35 +0200
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From: mikael.jakonen@mailbox.swipnet.se (Mikael Jakonen)
Subject: Re: No News???
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Sorry to bother all you Love-Hounds but:

Glen Ford, I tried to mail you directly, but the mail bounced.

You wrote to rec.music.gaffa:

>What gives? I have not seen any new articles in 2 days. 
>
>Is my news feed botched or are people just not interested 
>in KB?
>

All articles came to me by Love-Hounds mailinglist.
If you want, I could mail it to you. Just write a line
telling me what date(and hour) was the last you got, and 
for how many days forward you'd like to have, and I'll 
forward a copy of them to you.


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Music is like vintage wine. It keeps getting better over the years, 
if those who made it knew how to make it right...

Mikael Jakonen
                                            mikael.jakonen@mailbox.swipnet.se
                                                   a94mikja@ida.his.se      
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Spock: "Nor I myself..."                                         (StarTrek V)
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To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
Reply-To: CRSO.KateBush@canrem.com
Sender: CRSO.KateBush@canrem.com
Subject: TREACLE
From: del.allan@canrem.com (Del Allan)
Message-Id: <60.1758.5789.0C1EAAEA@canrem.com>
In-Reply-To: <QQyxqu08248.199507091600@ftp.UU.NET>
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 15:04:00 -0400
Organization: CRS Online  (Toronto, Ontario)

In response to Heidi (?) who wondered wheather or not Kate sang
'treacle' at the end of 'YTO', after 'honey, sugar,honey'...the answer
is yes.  I played the song a few times to verify it, and IMHO, yes Kate
does sing 'treacle'.

Thank you to whomever posted to tour dates for The Innocense Mission.  I
only wish that they would come up to Toronto.

Bye for now,

Del Allan

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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 15:17:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: Fiona McQuarrie <fmcquarr@upei.ca>
X-Sender: fmcquarr@atlas.cs.upei.ca
To: "Kate (list) Bush" <love-hounds@uunet.uu.net>
Subject: TIM with a Vengeance
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Since posting my original note about the relevance of the Innocence 
MIssion tour dates, I have been informed (thanks, woj and Jeffrey) that 
TIM has been discussed in this group for quite some time.

To which I stand corrected, but I don't think it would have killed the 
original posters to have maybe told a bit about the band rather than just 
plopping the dates in without any explanation. Not everyone here has been 
here for a long time....and, without any accompanying information, the 
list of dates looks like it could be part of a Spam-O-Rama to totally 
irrelevant groups.

Cheers, Fiona

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To: rec-music-gaffa@agate.berkeley.edu
From: akmonday@uclink3.berkeley.edu (Anthony Kyle Monday)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins/Personal chat
Date: 9 Jul 1995 18:55:48 GMT
Organization: Disorganisation
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In article <3tncv5$inc@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, "Donald B. Treadwell"
<ltbear@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> If you like the Cocteau Twins, you might like to check out 
> This Mortal Coil, the lead singer is the same person, Liz Frazier.

THis isn't exactly true. Liz did the vocals on two songs on TMC's first
album, "It'll End In Tears." They're painfully beautiful tracks (Tim
Buckley's "song to the siren" and Roy Harper's "Another Day," a song I
think most of us here have heard of!), far outshining anything else TMC
did on their other two albums. TMC are not a band, per se, but a
collection of artists who recorded on 4AD doing covers of obscure songs,
which often went awry, IMO.
I do however, recommend the first album very, very much.

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e-mail: akmonday@uclink3.berkeley.edu / "Jai un a^me solitare"
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 12:00:08 -0400
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Subject: Love-Hounds Digest #11.166
From: Love-Hounds-Request@uunet.UU.NET
To: Love-Hounds@uunet.UU.NET

In this digest:
                                      TIM
                       Katemas Parties List - Updated 7/8
                       personal service, 1-800-559-6558.
                             Rare Kate poster?!?!?
                        Re: Cocteau Twins/Personal chat
                           Re: Cloudbu(r)sting, etc.
                           Re: Rare Kate poster?!?!?
                          Can you help me find ASTA-L?

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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 13:43:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: Fiona McQuarrie <fmcquarr@upei.ca>
X-Sender: fmcquarr@atlas.cs.upei.ca
To: "Kate (list) Bush" <love-hounds@uunet.uu.net>
Subject: TIM
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I suspect dates for the Innocence Mission would only be of interest to 
this group if Kate were the opening act.

Just a thought,
Fiona

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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 10:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Karen L. Newcombe" <kln@crl.com>
To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Katemas Parties List - Updated 7/8
Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950708100419.22441A-100000@crl8.crl.com>
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ADDED PARTY IN PORTLAND!


when          where              who              for details contact:
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Sun. 7/16/95  Chicago, IL        Chip Lueck &     chip-1@nwu.edu or
                                 Valerie Nozick   (312) 262-4026

Sat. 7/29/95  Boonton, NJ        Meredith & woj   meth@delphi.com or 
                                                  woj@remus.rutgers.edu 

Sat. 7/29/95  Portland, OR       Michael Bowman   bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu

Sun. 7/30/95  Boston, MA         Nancy            TPerry@vmsvax.simmons.edu


Sun. 7/30/95? San Francisco, CA  Bill Wisner      wisner@uunet.uu.net


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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: jjhhggff <102372.3065@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa,rec.music.gdead,rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc,rec.music.industrial
Subject: personal service, 1-800-559-6558.
Date: 8 Jul 1995 17:56:19 GMT
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Personal service for Adults only.
Blonde Girls 1-800-559-6557.
Black Girls  1-800-559-6558.
Two Girls Together 1-800-559-6554. 

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To: rec-music-gaffa@cs.washington.edu
From: magus@big12.metrobbs.com (magus)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Rare Kate poster?!?!?
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 1995 14:54:32 -0500
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I'm getting ready to move and while doing so a fellow Kate fan freaked out
when he saw the poster which, until then, was never out of the original
plastic. I found it at a going out of business sale for a record store and
though I'd frame it for my new room.

It's of Kate in a workout liatard. Well, he was simply dumbfounded and
stated how it was super hard to get, etc., etc., drolling, etc., etc., she
should do a workout video, etc., etc., breath in, breath out, etc., etc..
;)

Anyway, was just wondering if I shouldn't REALLY take extra care when
getting this poster framed.

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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: "Donald B. Treadwell" <ltbear@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins/Personal chat
Date: 9 Jul 1995 01:55:49 GMT
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If you like the Cocteau Twins, you might like to check out 
This Mortal Coil, the lead singer is the same person, Liz Frazier.
thx  P.guru using ltbear's system.


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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan <dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Cloudbu(r)sting, etc.
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 20:20:09 -0700
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On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Peter Chow wrote:

] kevinbryan@aol.com (KevinBryan) wrote:
] 
]] That's interesting -- when I first heard the song I assumed she was
]] referring to Aristotle's _Organon_, wherein he talks about physical
]] processes such as weather.
] 
] Now there's an interesting thought. She got the goods from a book
] about Wilhelm Reich but he may have come up with the name for his
] ranch 'Organon' as you describe.

The Organon is =not= about physical processes =per se=; it is part of
Aristoteles's attempt to codify the principles of logic. (If anyone
wants me to go on about Aristoteles (aka "Aristotle") and Greek here,
then let me know.  My experience is that some people are annoyed by
such stuff.)

          It's always Dark.  Light only hides the Darkness.

          Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan           (619) 535 - 0546
          athanatos@UCSD.edu   132.239.147.2    <75013,676>


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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: David Benson <dobenson@acy.digex.net>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Rare Kate poster?!?!?
Date: 9 Jul 1995 07:13:12 GMT
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It's really hard to say. I've got several Kate 
posters,
most of which I found out were quite difficult to
obtain.
  But it's all in the thought. If you believe that
Kate is a genius, then what the poster may be worth
to someone else (as far as monetary gain goes) is
meaningless; it's valuable to you.
  Me? I don't even want to know what the posters, 
CDs,
and images that I've collected (and posted at:
http://www.acy.digex.net/~dobenson/benson.html)
are worth. All that matters is spreading the word
of genius.
  And that's what Kate is. And why we're all here at
gaffa. Not to make money, but to understand, spread
the word, and enjoy the music/lyrics/madness that
that we're lucky enough to be alive to hear.

David



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Message-ID: <"95-07-09-04:21:52.42*JWJ"@NCCIBM1.BITNET>
Date:    Sun, 09 Jul 95 04:21 EDT
From: Jay Jacob Wind <JWJ%NCCIBM1.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu>
To: drsma%DARTCMS1.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: Can you help me find ASTA-L?

I'm looking for the LISTSERV address of a mail-list called
ASTA-L
This is the list for American String Teachers Association.
I saw a reference to SUBSCRIBE ASTA-L to LISTSERV@CMSUBMB.CMSU.EDU
in a string teachers newsletter, but there's no such place as CMSU.EDU.

If you know of ASTA-L, can you send me the correct address?
Please reply directly to me, rather than to the list.

Thank you, and my apologies for cross-postings.
-- Jay Wind
   Computer-literate husband of a string teacher in Arlington VA
   JWJ@NCCIBM1.BITNET

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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 12:00:08 -0400
Message-Id: <QQyxnc01848.199507081600@ftp.UU.NET>
Subject: Love-Hounds Digest #11.165
From: Love-Hounds-Request@uunet.UU.NET
To: Love-Hounds@uunet.UU.NET

In this digest:
                                  Blasphemer!
                         Re: fruitopia and Inner Light
                        MIDIs, Fruitopia + other albums
                    Re: Anagram for Lovehounds: Sound Hovel
                      Re:Exactly Why Nuking Is a Bad Idea
                        The Innocence Mission tour dates
                                     MisK.
                              Re: KT and Rush :-)
                           Re: Cloudbu(r)sting, etc.
                               Re: You're the One
                                          

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Glen Ford uttered - 

>What gives? I have not seen any new articles in 2 days. 

>Is my news feed botched or are people just not interested 
>in KB?

Not interested in KaTe?!?!?!?  Just because I lurk doesn't mean I'm
not interested...  :>

Seriously (or not so...), I hope you are now receiving the list so
that your life may regain some meaning!

chris
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Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:26:39 -0700
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To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
From: stev0@zuni.chaco.com (stev0)
Subject: Re: fruitopia and Inner Light

I found this in alt.tv.commercials (No, I don't ordinarily
read that group, but you don't want to know how I found it).

- Stev0 the lurker

>From: mba01@aol.com (Mba01)

>I have to agree: 
>I dislike Fruitopia ads, especially since these fruit-based beverages are
>mostly corn syrup and water.  However, the previous writer is correct when
>saying that the ads were not targeted to we who dislike the ads.

>For the record, 
>Fruitopia was introduced by Coke in March 1994.  It was an attempt to
>enter the "alternative non-carbonated beverages" market, a market that
>accounts for $2 billion in sales, and is growing by 15% each year. 
>Fruitopia is reported to have had 60% of Snapple's sales in January 95, up
>from 43% of Snapple's sales volume in November 94 (although, I don't think
>this is total sales, but sales in the convenience store channel). 
>Fruitopia's sales were about $20 million for the first quarter 1995.  Ad
>spending for the year is about $30 million

>The whole new-age, 60's psychedelic feel to the ads by Chiat-Day (now part
>of Ominicom) and Kate Bush were probably based on Coke's research that
>said that the target consumer was seeking not only refreshment for their
>body, but refreshment for their mind and spirit as well (corn syrup and
>flavorings?).  Although the new-age-ness of the ads has been toned down,
>Coke Foods must be happy with the 60's theme, since their new
>lower-calorie line of beverages will be branded as "Inner Light."


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From: btd@carina.cray.com (Bryan Dongray)
Message-Id: <9507072148.AA29574@deneb.cray.com>
Subject: MIDIs, Fruitopia + other albums
To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 16:48:42 -0500 (CDT)
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Hi there,

I've been in my own little conversation with someone (about MIDI
downloading etc), and just to let others know, I did some close
approximations (OK no singing so I used a Calliope, the other
instrumentation IS very close). You can get them from multiple places:
	www	http://actor.cs.vt.edu/~wentz
	ftp	ftp.cs.ruu.nl:/pub/MIDI/SONGS/POP
			armydrea.zip
			babushka.zip
			cldbstng.zip
		and associated .doc files too.
I can (if you want) email them, but I'll use uuencode (or btoa if you ask),
so check you have a uudecode program of some form first, sorry email
does not handle binary. I did post them a while back in the newsgroup
	alt.binary.sounds.midi
so if you were downloading from there, you will have seen them earlier
this year.

Anyway, the other person I was talking (well, emailling) with, asked me:

> Will there be new files in the future at that site?  I don't think the song
> from the Fruitopia commercial I wanted was there...it's the one where the
> music has the beat like a heartbeat...do you know which one I'm talking
> about?  Also this guy mentioned she had some albums out called "Never For
> Ever" and "Hounds of Love", which of those albums contains the Fruitopia
> music, if either?

My answers are:

Yes, I'm working on Wuthering Heights, but the summer weather tempts me
outside more than sitting in front of a computer screen. I'll do more
tracks as winter keeps me in more.

The Fruitopia commercial I do not believe is on any KaTe album.
I wonder if anyone knows the background into the Fruitopia deal?

Her main albums have been:
	The Kick Inside		(Feb 78)
	Lionheart		(Nov 78)
	Never For Ever		(Sep 80)
	The Dreaming		(Sep 82)
	Hound Of Love		(Sep 85)
	The Sensual World	(Oct 89)
	The Red Shoes		(Nov 93)
There have been various singles, boxed sets, videos, interviews, bootlegs,
etc, but if you collect the above albums, you'll have all but a few of
her songs.

Interestingly, if you plot of album number vs days since her first
album, shows that up until the last album she took near enough one year
longer to release each album (exception of the Dreaming, which took just
2 months longer than Never For Ever). Then a change, The Red Shoes took
virtually the same time to do as The Sensual World, so extrapolating
this fact she has levelled out to a time to release a new album (ie
once every 4 years), the next one should be out Nov-97. Luckily, the
previous analysis of when The Red Shoes would be released (which was
Nov 94, just count the years between each, they go: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4),
this would have meant that the next album would have been Nov 2000. But
again I say LUCKILY things have leveled off to just 4 years per album.
This is IF mathematical analysis can be done on the time taken to
produce an album. Maybe she'll surprise the calculation again and
release a year earlier again, ie Nov-1996 - yes!

			Bryan Dongray

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On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, stev0 wrote:

> Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan <dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu> writes:
> 
>> Instead, let's have a lists of luncheon meat that we like or dislike, 
>> starting off with olive loaf.
> 
> Is that a "Like" or a "Dislike"?

Of course.  That much, at least, should be obvious.

          It's always Dark.  Light only hides the Darkness.

          Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan           (619) 535 - 0546
          athanatos@UCSD.edu   132.239.147.2    <75013,676>


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On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan writes:

>Unfortunately, there are other problems as well.
>
>The ads fall into four classes:
[Paragraphs deleted..]


And Stev0 the dilletante writes:

>WHAT TO DO ABOUT THESE JERKS:
[proper suggestion]


I humbly stand corrected.

What can I say? I lost my temper and didn't concider any implications.
If we started to nuke an E-mail account that had been taken off-line, 
their mail-daemon would only bounce the mail, thus wasting a massive 
amount of bandwidth.

 
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Music is like vintage wine. It keeps getting better over the years, 
if those who made it knew how to make it right...

Mikael Jakonen
                                            mikael.jakonen@mailbox.swipnet.se
                                                   a94mikja@ida.his.se      
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From: timission@aol.com (TIMission)
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Subject: The Innocence Mission tour dates
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Hi, these are the dates for the Innocence Mission's summer tour:
                                          July
13 - WBOS Noon show @ Copley Square - Boston, MA
15 - WFNX venue tba - Boston, MA
16 - Theatre of the Living Arts - Phila., PA
17 - FEZ - East Village, NYC (Macintosh Convention)
19 - Valentines - Albany, NY
20 - Pearl St. - Northampton, MA
22 - TT Bears - Boston, MA
23 - Granny Killams - Portland, ME
24 - Metronome - Burlington, VT
26 - Shooters Live - Cleveland, OH
27 - 7th House - Pontiac, MI 
28 - Top Cats - Cincinnati, OH
29 - Front Room at Newport Music Hall - Columbus, OH
31 - 328 Performance - Nashville, TN
                                           August
1 - Side Door - St. Louis, MO
3&4 - Schuba's - Chicago, IL
5 - 7th St. Entry - Minneapolis, MN
7 - Bug Theatre - Denver, CO
9 - tba - Salt Lake City, UT
11 - Barbatis Pan - Portland, OR
12 - Backstage - Seattle, WA
14 - Great American Music Hall - San Francisco, CA
15 - Luna Park - LA, CA
17 - Coach House - San Juan Capistrano, CA
19 - Valley Art Theatre - Phoenix, AZ
22 - Electric Lounge - Austin, TX
23 - Caravan of Dreams - Dallas, TX
25 - tba - Atlanta/Athens, GA
26 - Cat's Cradle - Chapel Hill, NC
28 - tba - Norfolk, VA

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From: IEDSRI@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 01:20:23 -0400
Message-Id: <950708012021_110350876@aol.com>
To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net
Subject: MisK.

Kenny Jow asks whether there are any plans for
an official release of Kate Bush's music for
the Fruitopia account.  As far as any of us knows,
the answer is no -- at least, Peter FitzGerald-Morris,
our premier Kate Bushologist, says nothing about it
in the latest Homeground (No. 55, a typically invaluable
piece of work from the Homegrounders -- congrats, Peter!).

As for the availability of Kate Bush's music in Midi
format, the answer is yes.  Someone posted about making
some of Kate's songs available via the Web, IED believes.
With a good notation application all the extant Kate Bush
sheet-music could be easily transcribed to Midi and put
on the Web.

-- Andrew Marvick (IED)
   S         R        I
   P.S.: IED recommends that everyone who can should get
to a Katemas party this year!!



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From: 100427.2530@compuserve.com (Peter Chow)
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Subject: Re: KT and Rush :-)
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dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu (Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan) wrote:


>I don't understand why anyone would think that there's some sort of
>affinity between Kate Bush and a bloated conservati-- ooops.  Wrong
>"Rush" maybe.

Hmmm... I seem to be all alone on this one... (well, except for this
person I met at a Katemas do some years ago in Manchester).

Everybody appears to be, at best, an ex-Rush fan, having been
converted to Katonians. Surely I can't be all alone in enjoying both?

They may sound nothing alike but Kate and Rush have both produced
tracks filled with vivid imagary and stories. My favourite albums from
each are HoL and Hemispheres for the same reasons; both are excellent
albums put together with skill and posses a practically 'cinematic'
quality that you can lose yourself in.

One just happens to have more power chords in it's arrangement than
the other :-)




Peter Chow from London (UK)


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From: 100427.2530@compuserve.com (Peter Chow)
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kevinbryan@aol.com (KevinBryan) wrote:

>That's interesting -- when I first heard the song I assumed she was
>referring to Aristotle's _Organon_, wherein he talks about physical
>processes such as weather.

Now there's an interesting thought. She got the goods from a book
about Wilhelm Reich but he may have come up with the name for his
ranch 'Organon' as you describe.




Peter Chow from London (UK)


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From: 100427.2530@compuserve.com (Peter Chow)
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willker@chemie.uni-bremen.de (Wieland Willker) wrote:

>Hallo, 

>this one is from the new HOMEGROUND:
>Heidi Steward, Haworth, Yorks, UK  wrote:

>"I wondered if you could solve a long-standing mystery. At the end of
>"You're the One" when Kate sings "Sugar?...Honey?...Sugar?" after this does
>she also sing "treacle"? I reckon she does but so far only one other person
>has agreed with me. I don't think it'll bring out a new dimension to the
>song or change any views on Kate, but it's just something that needs
>verifying, that's all."

Upon close inspection [if you can inspect sound] the jury returns a
verdict of 'NO TREACLE'.

She does in fact sing,
 "sugar... honey... sugar....WHAYEE-EE-EEAHAGH.... sugar.... sugar".

I can see how the fourth *word* could be construed to mean 'treacle'
:-)









Peter Chow from London (UK)


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To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
From: Garrick Twinney <G.Twinney@plymouth.ac.uk>
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Date:         8 Jul 95 13:05:57 GMT
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> Hallo,
>

> this one is from the new HOMEGROUND:
> Heidi Steward, Haworth, Yorks, UK  wrote:
>
> "I wondered if you could solve a long-standing mystery. At the end
> of "You're the One" when Kate sings "Sugar?...Honey?...Sugar?" after
> this does
> she also sing "treacle"? I reckon she does but so far only one other
> person
> has agreed with me. I don't think it'll bring out a new dimension to
> the
> song or change any views on Kate, but it's just something that needs
> verifying, that's all."
>
> Listen again. Any idea? Or solved long ago?

Oh hello, Heidi Stewart here.
                      ^

I'm not actually able to e-mail anyone  coz I don't have access to an
account and I'm not keen with a computer really. A friend of mine
who does have access, told me about my letter being mailed to the
group, and seeing as though I'm staying at his house at the moment I
thought I'd take advantage of this privelage(?).  I thought I'd
better add, that this letter was written a long time ago and it was
just a little thing I noticed one day. I didn't expect it to get
printed, I suppose I was trying to be a bit of a clever cloggs.
Do things like this have to be taken so seriously?  Okay, it's a
saaad song, I thought that little cheeky twist at the end lifted it a
bit, made it a bit more fly-away, y'know (sorry, just stirring!!).
I'll tell you where I think it is. It's after the last, "sugar?" but
quite a way after it, nearer the end.  It's sung a lot lower than the
 "sugar?...honey?...sugar?" bit...get those headphones on and
listen a little harder.  I'm really sorry for wasting the time of
all those millions who aren't really interested (I thought I'd better
say that coz Garrick said I'll get flamed), it's Oh so trivial and so
much so that I'm saying nothing more about it.  ( by the way, I'm only
17 and so can get away with being so blummin' daft, that's _my_
excuse).  TA.

-Heidi xxx



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End of Love-Hounds Digest #11.165
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Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:00:08 -0400
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Subject: Love-Hounds Digest #11.164
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In this digest:
                                  Scott Walker
                               Katemas in Chicago
                       Katemas Parties List - Updated 7/6
                              Vampire-connections
                      Anagram for Lovehounds: Sound Hovel
                             Books mentioning Kate
                                      Hey.
                                     MisK.
                          Music Gathering in Portland
                       Re[2]: Love-Hounds Digest #11.163
                               More silliness???
                     Re: These shoes do, a kind of voodoo ?
                        Red Shoes discography on the Web
                        Exactly Why Nuking Is a Bad Idea
                                   No News???

* To unsubscribe send a message containing your request to
  Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net.  Messages sent to the
  list proper will be disregarded.

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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: kpd000@colum.edu (Keith DeWeese x422)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Scott Walker
Date: 6 Jul 1995 16:25:17 GMT
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Keywords: Scott Walker

Forgive me if this non-Kate post regarding another recording celebrity 
raises your hackles, but I'm asking for address information regarding any 
forums that support discussion of Scott Walker's music.  Thank you for 
reading.

Keith
--


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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:34:43 -0500
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To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net, ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu
From: chip-l@nwu.edu (Chip Lueck )
Subject: Katemas in Chicago

Him: Gee, Valerie, what can we do to create the best Katemas celebration 
     east of the Mississippi?

Her: Well, Chip, I don't know. Short of travelling to Germany to visit 
     other ectophiles/love hounds, what could we do?

Him: Erm, well, I'm doing that actually.

Her: (seething) Not all of us can travel 1000s of miles on a whim. We'll 
     have to think of something else.

{both think intensely. Bits of steam escape from Valerie's ears. Flames leap
out of Chip's eyes}

Her: I know! We can host our own Katemas celebration, right here in 
     Chicago! 

Him: Yeah! On July 16th, so I can take the pictures to Germany with me.

Her: (turning her back to Chip) Harumph!

{minutes of silence while Valerie gets over her jealousy and Chip silently 
tallies the number of hours Valerie slave work at her job while Chip is 
enjoying summertime in Europe}

Her: We'd better get around to inviting everyone on ecto and gaffa.

Him: I already took the liberty of doing that.

Her: Smart ass. Tell people to email you at chip-l@nwu.edu for details.

Him: Or you at vnozick@tribune.com.

Her: Sounds good. Now let's be good ectophiles and go to that Barry Manilow 
concert.


Just kidding! Here's a different, more serious idea:

Deck the halls, it's that time of the year again!

Katemas is near, and it's time to PARTY! 

Rock in the new Kate year with a Chicago Katemas gathering, courtesy of 
Chip and Valerie (the other C&V). Music, videos, friendly company, two 
really cute cats, Tim Cook from England... What more could you want? It's 
coming up soon -- July 16, since Chip is flying to Germany over the real 
Katemas weekend.

Chip's place is located near public transportation, so it's easy to get to. 
And crash space is available for the whole weekend. Drop Chip a line at 
chip-l@nwu.edu, or Valerie at vnozick@tribune.com, if you're coming. 

========================================================================
Chip Lueck (Jeff)                          chip-l@nwu.edu          
"Drag me, drop me & treat me like an object!"


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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:42:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Karen L. Newcombe" <kln@crl.com>
To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Katemas Parties List - Updated 7/6
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ADDED PARTY IN BOSTON!



when          where              who              for details contact:
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Sun. 7/30/95  Boston, MA         Nancy            TPerry@vmsvax.simmons.edu


Sun. 7/16/95  Chicago, IL        Chip Lueck &     chip-1@nwu.edu or
                                 Valerie Nozick   (312) 262-4026

Sat. 7/29/95  Boonton, NJ        Meredith & woj   meth@delphi.com or 
                                                  woj@remus.rutgers.edu 

Sun. 7/30/95? San Francisco, CA  Bill Wisner      wisner@uunet.uu.net


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To have your party added to this list e-mail your info to kln@crl.com

For more information on these parties, contact the hosts directly.

Karen kln@crl.com







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Date: Thu,  6 Jul 95 19:24:01 PDT
From: Guido Lombaerts <lombaeg@interpac.interpac.be>
Subject: Vampire-connections
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Hello everyone!


Chris Verret wrote:
>Seems to be the case. Not only is there the batkate backcover, but last
>weekend there were 2 dracula movies on tv and they both contained a
>tune that you can find back on Kate's records.
>The movies were:
>1) Nosferatu                 (very recognizable tune)
>2) The Return of Count Yorga (less recognizable tune)
>Anyone know other Kate-Dracula connections?
   Well, I read somewhere that Kate was once offered a leading part in a vampire-film. Anyone have
anymore details on that?

   And staying with horror-films for a moment. When you look closely in one of the Elm Street films (I forgot
which one exactly, but my guess is the third) you'll spot a "Lionheart" poster on a bedroom wall...

  BTW, Chris, it's great to see another Kate-fan from Belgium on the list :-)

  And as far as "Turkish Delight" goes... I actually went for quite a long time believing it *was* Kate. So 
thanks you guys, for clearing up this little matter :)

           bye for now :)
  

               Emmy.

                                           Emmy May Lombaerts
                                           lombaeg@mail.interpac.be

PS: Hi Yves, Marcel and Ulli :) 




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Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan <dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu> writes:

>Instead, let's have a lists of luncheon meat that we like or dislike, 
>starting off with olive loaf.

Is that a "Like" or a "Dislike"?


braffet@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Elizabeth Braffet) spouts:

>   The speech in Babylon 5 is talking about something different, the
>courage to love rather than the hunt for love. Nevertheless, I would
>endorse the recommendation to watch that program, simply because is it a
>show that is better thought out than most (IMHO).

I would recommend "Babylon 5" for anyone who LOVES bad acting, the
moldiest of scripts, and special effects straight out of "Battlestar
Galactica".  OK, it's not NEARLY as painful to watch as "VR 5", but
it's right up there.  Me, I'd rather watch reruns of "Cop Rock".

mikael.jakonen@mailbox.swipnet.se (Mikael Jakonen) rants:


>I have a sollution that some might think is a bad idea:

>We all agree (even all lurkers) to send a couple of copies each back to 
>those post ads. 
>Nuke them with their own posts!  ;-)
>That way they will (hopefully) learn to stay away.

"No, no, no, no, no, no, NO!" - Sam, from "Sam and Max hit the Road".

Mailbombing a jerk who sends innappropriate ads is a VERY bad idea,
because one of the two will happen:

1) It hurts the innocent OTHER users on the system (not to mention
   the probably-innocent sysadmin) OR
2) The account will probably be pulled by the time you read the
   message anyway, so the sender will never see your bomb, anyway.

WHAT TO DO ABOUT THESE JERKS:

Copy the letter and send the complete letter WITH HEADER to
postmaster@ and wherever the letter was sent from.  For example,
if canter@foo.bar.com sends chain letter to MAKE MONEY FAST, copy
it and send it to postmaster@bar.com (The "foo" is just the name
of the user's node, so ignore it).  You can be rest assured the
jerk will never spam again...


ObKate - I think William Wegman should have done the cover
for "Hounds of Love"

- Stev0 the dilletante

"Gaffa doesn't mean ANYTHING!  It's just something I made
up one day while playing Scrabble."
 - Things we'd like to hear Kate say #42


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Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 19:51:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE <METH@delphi.com>
Subject: Books mentioning Kate
To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
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Hi!

Emma Bull's _The War For The Oaks_ has a scene in it wherein one of the
protagonists comes home in a snit and puts on _HoL_ to cheer herself up.
And Terry Pratchett's _Pyramids_ (I think -- it's one of the Discworld novels)
has a footnote which mentions Kate (not to mention the harem girl getting
abducted on the cover looks ***exactly*** like Kate in a modified Babooshka
outfit).

If I were a fiction writer I'd mention Kate, but I don't think that counts. :)

+==========================================================================+
|Meredith Tarr                                              meth@delphi.com|
|Boonton, NJ  USA                  finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu|
+==========================================================================+
|  "Turnips do not invite fan members to sit on their couches on stage."   |
|                                                        -Irvin F. Lin     |
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:02:06 -0700
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To: LOVE-HOUNDS@eddie.mit.edu
From: Kenny Jow <rfrog@indirect.COM>
Subject: Hey.

Hey, I was wondering if I could subscribe to the Kate discussion group.  I
would like to see her music in .mod .s3m or even .midi format...I was
wondering if there is such an animal, and if not, if she will be releasing a
compilation of her music from the Fruitopia commercials on CD anytime soon,
please reply soon.


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From: IEDSRI@aol.com
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 20:21:41 -0400
Message-Id: <950706202140_109419717@aol.com>
To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net
Subject: MisK.

 > 2) The Return of Count Yorga (less recognizable tune)

What is this less recognizable tune, and where can it
be found in Kate's work?

 > Anyone know other Kate-Dracula connections?

As a matter of fact, yes. An early song (found among
the "Cathy Demos"), called "Carmilla" (note spelling), 
is based on Sheridan LeFanu's novella about a vampire.

 > -- Chris Verret

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 19:57:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Bowman <bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu, fte@yoyo.monash.edu.au, rdt@oasis.nova.net,
        old-ways@tomservo.edaal.ingr.com, rfn@world.std.com,
        love-hounds@uunet.uu.net, John Zimmer <tiefe@agora.rdrop.com>,
        mklprc@teleport.com, rumpletail@aol.com, nijoh@teleport.com,
        kln@crl.com, Aaron McEmrys <iceblink@teleport.com>
Subject: Music Gathering in Portland
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On Saturday, July 29th I'll be hosting a musical gathering in Portland, 
OR. This is to celebrate Katemas and mjm (from Ecto) and his wife being 
in town for the weekend. It will probably be in the evening. Music will 
be of the Kate/Sarah/Loreena/Tori/Happy/etc./etc./etc. type. If you're 
interested contact me.

Michael Bowman
Portland Ecto Social Director
bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu

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From: armitage.steve@adlittle.com
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I have the Kick Inside Picture Disk Album (1st Edition)

Love
Steve

Ps Love, Peace and Banana's
_______________________________________________________________________________


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Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 18:39:02 +1000 (EST)
From: Brett Harris <bretthar@nswbeta.nsw.BoM.GOV.AU>
To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
Subject: More silliness???
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Hi Katefans,

So it looks like I wasnt the only one to hear similarities with
"All we ever look for" and the X-files theme..(thanks Thomas, Cary...)

Actually I like Cary's suggestion of the whistling from "The Dreaming"
sounding like it as well, maybe without the baaaa's however.

As for Will Yum, I really meant the whistling type sound that trails
off right at the end.  I would suggest "Ner, ner, ner, ner, nuh, NAAAAH"
is more appropriate for "The Jig of Life".

Brett Harris
Bureau of Meteorology
Canberra AUSTRALIA

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"Have you ever seen a picture of *Kate* laughing,
Mmm do ya think she has a beautiful smile..."
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To: rec-music-gaffa@pipex.net
From: chriss@unipalm.pipex.com (Chris Stratford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: These shoes do, a kind of voodoo ?
Date: 7 Jul 1995 11:32:35 GMT
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In article <393@absfabs.demon.co.uk>, James@absfabs.demon.co.uk says...

>Also this may be very naive, but if I wanted to see if my independent CD
>supplier could get "This woman's work extended 1,2 & 3", where should
>I ask him to look, references etc? Or does anyone know who would be the
>best supplier local to the UK ?

"Local to the UK" isn't very specific, but I usually find that record and 
CD fairs ar ethe best places to try.  There's a particularly good one 
that does the rounds in the Thames Valley area.

    Chris.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
From: Scott Telford <s.telford@ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Red Shoes discography on the Web
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Some of you may remember the discography I compiled of TRS-related releases
which was posted once or twice here, probably more that a year ago now. I've
added to it a bit since then and it's just occured to me to put it out on
this newfangled World-Wide Web thingummy - you can get to it via my home
page at http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~st. Corrections/additions, as always,
welcome.

-- 
Scott Telford, Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre,        <s.telford@ed.ac.uk>
University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Rd, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK.(+44 131 650 5978)
-- "We do want to tour again, we will tour again" - Kate Bush, Munich, 1980. --

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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan <dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Exactly Why Nuking Is a Bad Idea
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 06:15:01 -0700
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On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Mikael Jakonen wrote:

> I have a sollution that some might think is a bad idea:
> 
> We all agree (even all lurkers) to send a couple of copies each back to 
> those post ads. 
> Nuke them with their own posts!  ;-)
> That way they will (hopefully) learn to stay away.
> 
> The only problem is: where to draw the line between an OK post and
> those to nuke.

Unfortunately, there are other problems as well.

The ads fall into four classes:

(1) Ads from purely temporary accounts.  The poster has accepted a
trial account with AOL, CompuServe, Delphi, or whomever, and is
=only= going to use it to post ads during the trial period, and then
bail.  The poster isn't going to even be around to read the email.
And these carriers are =not= going to go to the expense of tracking
down and suing the poster.

(2) Ads from more persistent accounts, with normal header info.
Here, the best thing to do is to forward a copy of the ad to
postmaster or root at the host-site.  The administrator will either
strip the user of access to the computer, or warn the user that any
repetition will cause such loss.  In the latter case, some sort of
nuking would perhaps reinforce the point.

(3) Ads from persistent accounts, with partially censored headers.
In this case, your mail handler may report that there is a missing
user-id and/or a missing host-site.  However, if you =save= the
message as a file, and then look at the full header with a text
editor, you can sometimes find (1) the site-name, and (2), a message
id.  In this case, do =not= send the message to postmaster with the
=forward= command of your mail handler, because important info may
be stripped out of the header by your handler.  =Instead=, start a
=new= message to postmaster, and then read the saved message into
the body of your message.  The administrator can use the message-id
to identify the culprit.  The administrator will strip the user of
the account.

(4) Ads with thoroughly censored headers.  Through a combination of
lax security at some sites, and a bit of expertise on the part of
the user, it is sometimes possible to make it impracticable to track
a message.  Unless someone here is a really good counter-hacker, we
can't do anything about such postings.

          It's always Dark.  Light only hides the Darkness.

          Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan           (619) 535 - 0546
          athanatos@UCSD.edu   132.239.147.2    <75013,676>


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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: Glen Ford <glen@olc.interlog.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: No News???
Date: 7 Jul 1995 14:26:33 GMT
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What gives? I have not seen any new articles in 2 days. 

Is my news feed botched or are people just not interested 
in KB?

Glen Ford


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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Video Similarities
Date: 9 Jul 1995 23:33:01 GMT
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Kate has said (don't remember where I read this) that the Ashes to Ashes
video was a direct influence on the Breathing video.  Bowie's came first.
The two clips did not have the same director.
	Ashes to Ashes is probably one of my favorite music vids of all
time--totally spooky and eerie.  Cool that it would have an affect/influence
on Kate.
-- 
  Gord Locke | glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca | "Don't just question authority . . .
   in St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada  | question EVERYTHING." - Jello Biafra

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From: LoveHound@eworld.com
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 22:04:25 -0700
Message-Id: <950709220424_11977804@eWorld.com>
To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net, R.Jones@mirinz.org.nz
Subject: KaTemas in Oz!!

G'day all,

I'm sorry for not getting this info out sooner.  :-\ After talking it over
with Stephen last Friday we decided to hold KaTemas this year in sunny
Wollongong!! Come one, come all!! Just make sure you let me know if your
coming so we can *try* and figure out some place to put you! :-)

So, here are the details.
Date: Satyrday, 29th July midday through to whenever on Sunday 30th July.

Place: MY FLAT! :-)
2/30 Berkeley Road
Gwynneville (Wollongong) 2500

Phone/Fax: 042 266985.

Bring your own meat and plonk.. #-P

We'll be starting the barby about 3:00pm. I'll be suppling all the rest of
the nibbles and side dishes etc.

Bring any KaTe (or related) stuff you want. I've got heaps myself so most
KaTe music *should* be well accounted for. If you need a lift from the
station (either North Wollongong or Wollongong station) then let me know and
I'll pick anybody up.

IT'S REALLY HAPPENING TO YA! :-)

                             |
              _  |  __|  _ | __ \   _ |  _   _  |
 _) _) _)    (   | |    (  | |   | (  | |   |   |   _) _) _)
            \__  |_|   \___|_|  _|\___|_|  _|  _|
                 |
            \___/


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To: rec-music-gaffa@Belgium.EU.net
From: chrissy@stro5.vub.ac.be (Chrissy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: MisK.
Date: 10 Jul 1995 08:47:27 GMT
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IEDSRI@aol.com wrote:
> > 2) The Return of Count Yorga (less recognizable tune)
> 
> What is this less recognizable tune, and where can it
> be found in Kate's work?

I believe it's the strange sound just before Saxaphone Song (?)
on The Kick Inside.

--
Chris Verret...................................chrissy@stro5.vub.ac.be

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From: "R.L.Crane" <R.L.Crane@sheffield.ac.uk>
To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
Date:          Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:43:13 +0100
Subject:        "Mother...." and blankness 
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22)
Message-ID: <BCB08AD6D49@Broomhead.shef.ac.uk>

Hi,

Slightly more serious, this time.

Does anyone just happen to know the guitar chords for "Mother 
Stands for Comfort?  And if so,could they pass them on to me, please?  
You would, of course, be rewarded with eternal gratitude. :-)

Thank you......

By the way, did anyone else get a 'blank' 'hounds #11.166 ? 

Will Yum!

"A Different Kind of Tinsel
                     Decorates My Tree..."

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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: Sam <74507.1241@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: letters from Kate
Date: 10 Jul 1995 15:29:52 GMT
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Well James,

Yes, I have had the briefest, surrealest, heart-racing, fan-like 
sort of contact with Kate.  

December 1993, Tower Records, New York City.  Five hours waiting 
in the chill, quaking as the buzz moved through the line that 
*she* had arrived.  Harassing and delighting my co-fans by 
whipping out a tape recorder and getting their on-the-scene 
thoughts about KateFandom and being there for the big approaching 
moment.  Getting inside the store, seeing the videos playing, the 
Red Shoes backdrop, just the top of the brunette head.  And then, 
her in sight.  Really her!  *HER*, for godsakes!!!  This woman 
who, unknown to her, was one of my closest friends through 
adolescense.  I held tight clenched hands with a white-faced 
woman who'd been a stranger hours before, as we moved to the 
front of the line, just barely able to make out the tiny familiar 
voice offering warm words to dazed fans.  It was painful.  To 
know this would all be over so soon...what to say?? Remember to 
look her in the eye.  Remember to say something somewhat 
intelligent.  Remember to give her the book you bought her.  
Remember to touch her hand.

My turn!!!!

-- 
Sam

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To: rec-music-gaffa@cs.washington.edu
From: magus@big12.metrobbs.com (magus)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Rare Kate poster?!?!?
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 18:08:39 -0500
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In article <3tnvi8$4e1@news3.digex.net>, dobenson@acy.digex.net (David
Benson) wrote:

>   And that's what Kate is. And why we're all here at
> gaffa. Not to make money, but to understand, spread
> the word, and enjoy the music/lyrics/madness that
> that we're lucky enough to be alive to hear.
> 
> David


Oh, I agree! I was just wondering out of academic interest. If they were
rare, and I could get alot for a fair price, I'd buy them and offer them
at cost plus shipping to the group. :)

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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: iblackbn@usit.net (Ian Blackburn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: test, please ignore
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:32:40 -0500
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dvorak
qwerty

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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:34:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE <METH@delphi.com>
Subject: urp
To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
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Lovely.

Is the Digest software having gastric troubles, or should we be plotting to
hunt down and kill someone around here?

+==========================================================================+
|Meredith Tarr                                              meth@delphi.com|
|Boonton, NJ  USA                  finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu|
+==========================================================================+
| "if the truth isn't funny, what good is it? does reality have a duty to  |
|       amuse us? did *anyone* else ever play Paranoia?" - veronica        |
+==========================================================================+

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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 23:02:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE <METH@delphi.com>
Subject: KaTemas in NJ
To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
Cc: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu
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Hi!
 
Okay guys, this is the Official Announcement.
 
                           KATEMAS IN NEW JERSEY!            ---------
                                                                 | /
Where:  woj-n-meth's world o'muzak, Boonton, New Jersey          |/ 
When:   Saturday, July 29, 1995, 1 PM til it's over              |\
Why:    That should be obvious :>                                | \
 
There will be tons of music, videos, and good company.  There will also be
tons of good food and drink (provided those who are coming pitch in).  Got
any interesting KaTe paraphernalia to show off?  Been dying to test that
new recipe for fuzzy blue drinks on some unwitting victims? Got a portable
grill lying around the house waiting for a chance to be used?  E-mail woj-
n-meth with the details of what you can contribute, and we'll let you know
what we need.
 
Please send e-mail to meth@delphi.com and/or woj@remus.rutgers.edu BY THURS-
DAY, JULY 27 to let us know if you're coming and what you're bringing.  We'll
send you directions.  Boonton is located in north-central New Jersey, about
10 miles north of Morristown on I-287.  It is easily accessible by public
transportation -- we'll send details as needed.
 
Crash space is available, but *very* limited.  Reserve early if you're coming
from afar!
 
Don't let another KaTemas pass you by -- celebrate with the pros!  :)
 
See you there...
 
+==========================================================================+
|Meredith Tarr                                              meth@delphi.com|
|Boonton, NJ  USA                  finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu|
+==========================================================================+
|"We now return you to your regular time.  Please take all of your belong- |
| ings in order to avoid a paradox." -- Uncle Bob                          |
+==========================================================================+
 

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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: fwu@umich.edu (Fred Ming-Chieh Wu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: "Hounds Of Love" gray marble vinyl for sale
Date: 11 Jul 1995 03:16:18 GMT
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Hi!  I've got a huge credit card bill, so I have to sell it.  The vinyl is
in great shape.  So, if you'd like it, I'm asking $30.  Let me know.
Fred Wu
fwu@umich.edu 

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 00:53:28 -0700
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To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
From: stev0@zuni.chaco.com (stev0)
Subject: A tale of two cities

I just got back from Chicago (where I finally met 
Chris 'n' Vickie, who took my girlfriend and I out 
to a wonderful Mexican restaurant - Thanks, Chris!).
What is amazing, Kate-wise (I didn't have time to check 
out any record stores while I was there) was there were 
Fruitopia billboards ALL OVER the place.  There are 
several ironies here:

Irony one:  I didn't see any Fruitopia vending machines.
Not that I was LOOKING for any, but here in the South Bay
you can't drive a half mile anywhere without passing one.
Also, they have new machines which are purple in color
instead of reddish-pinkish.  Much better, imho.

Irony 1.5:  There they have billboards but no vending
machines.  Here we have vending machines but no billboards
(that I have seen - yet).

Irony 2:  The billboards have the same kaleidoscope fruit
image as the teevee commercials.  But what's soothing and
tranquil on teevee makes one the loudest, most garish
billboards around.

Irony 3:  The commercials use Kate's music, right?  Why not
go all out and use her visual image, too?  Sure, it's
exploitive, but it's the RIGHT kind of exploitation!  (More Kate,
no matter WHAT the context, is ALWAYS a Good Thing).  Even though
she is not (by American standards) "A celebrity", she is not
unattractive and would make a damn fine addition to any billboard,
magazine ad, or what have you.

Irony 4:  If I had just seen the billboards, and there was no
Kate-relation (however slight), I would NEVER drink the stuff.
Such horrid slogans as "removes cynicism naturally".

- Stev0 the ironic

"Womp bam boom"
   - Hugh Grant


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To: rec-music-gaffa@britain.eu.net
From: mty027@coventry.ac.uk (Andy Semple)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Video Similarities
Date: 11 Jul 1995 09:54:25 +0100
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I would disagree that 'Ashes To Ashes' influenced 'Breathing'.The latter
was out in April 1980,whilst the former was released in August 1980.I'm sure
that 'Never For Ever' was knocked off the top of the album charts by 'Scary
Monsters' in September 1980.
I doubt that Bowie was influenced by Kate  as well. 
-- 
Andy Semple
Mathematics Dept
Coventry University
" I plan to live forever....or die trying!!"



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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:11:31 +0200
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To: love-hounds@uunet.UU.NET
From: willker@chemie.uni-bremen.de (Wieland Willker)
Subject: Holiday in Europe/ TREACLE

Just reading someone wants to visit Germany? Or Europe?
Please do not play with the electric fire! 
This is, what the 'Bible' says (Book KBC 13 (1983), p. 3, verse 8):

[In Rome:] 
...
"I had to rehearse my number in my room, and not having a European plug, I 
took the old one off and began to stick the bare wires into the plug
socket, which  was hidden behind the table. All the lights went out in the
room, so I ran into the  hall--no lights. I was half expecting to see
soldiers cocking their rifles, having traced the source of the light
failure. I went into my room, and a few minutes later the lights came back
on. Gary and Dougie came up later, and when I told them they started
laughing--apparently the whole hotel had blacked out, and the soldiers in
reception had been a little on edge, to say the least.
So I won't do that again, and I recommend calling reception to see if
they'll help you out if you ever find yourself with two bare wires in a
foreign hotel!"



You're the One (treacle):
=========================
Because there isn't much news around, please listen again to "You're the
One".  
Thank you Heidi for bring this up. I love those little mysteries and I
think it's much nearer to Kate than most of last weeks mails. So, no one
will flame you, Heidi! 

'TREACLE' is located as follows: (in sec.) 
4'49  first "Sugar" 
4'57  "Honey" 
5'04  second "Sugar" 
5'13  cry "Whayee-ee-eeahagh" or something like that 
5'23  "Treacle"  , in a much lower voice.  
There _IS_ a word that sounds very much like "treacle", but I think, it can
be assigned unequivocally only by someone with sound/computer-equipment. 

Best wishes
     Wieland


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Date: 11 Jul 95 11:11:54 EDT
From: Ronald.Girardin@Dartmouth.EDU (Ronald Girardin)
Subject: Kate video awards.
To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net

greetings Love-hounds!!!!

Last night I was watching some Kate videos (most of them,
actually :-) ).  I thought perhaps it would be interesting
to have the views of others about kate's videos...in a
"kate video awards" kinda way.  

Here are some of the categories I thought up 
(feel free to add more)


1. best overall video
2. best video "early years" (1978-1980)
3. best video "glory years" (1981-1987)
4. best video "quiet years" (1988-1994)
5. best hairdo
6. best costume
7. best dance
8. best special effects
9. worst video
10. song you wished there was a video for
11. best head apparel (hat)
12. favorite "guest" artist

Any video qualifies for this including everything found
on the Lovehounds-collection.

Here are my "winners"

1. Tie: There Goes A Tenner  &  Cloudbusting
2. Delius
3. There Goes A Tenner
4. This Woman's Work
5. Suspended In Gaffa  (love that hair) 
6. Experiment IV (the monster)
7. There goes A tenner  "we're waiting"
8. The Dreaming
9. Wuthering Heights
10.  The Ninth Wave    (yeah, I know, it's more than 1 song) 
11. Babooshka    (Warrior Kate)
12. Donald Sutherland   (I can't help it...I'm Canadian)


Ok people....your turn!

peace

ron

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To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
From: celemon@email.unc.edu (Angela Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Release Date: Red Shoes
Date: 11 Jul 1995 15:33:35 GMT
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I wondered if anyone could tell me the dates of release (UK & US) for Red 
Shoes.  And, if you can, will you please?  : )

Angela

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