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From: Love-Hounds-Request@uunet.UU.NET
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 12:00:07 -0400
Subject: Love-Hounds Digest #11.167
To: Love-Hounds@uunet.UU.NET
In this digest: Re: No News??? TREACLE TIM with a Vengeance Re: Cocteau Twins/Personal chat Love-Hounds Digest #11.166 Love-Hounds Digest #11.165 Love-Hounds Digest #11.164 Re: Video Similarities KaTemas in Oz!! Re: MisK. "Mother...." and blankness Re: letters from Kate * To unsubscribe send a message containing your request to Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net. Messages sent to the list proper will be disregarded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:28:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199507091728.TAA08884@mailbox.swip.net> X-Sender: m-13442@mailbox.swip.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net From: mikael.jakonen@mailbox.swipnet.se (Mikael Jakonen) Subject: Re: No News??? X-Mailer: <PC Eudora Version 1.4b22> Sorry to bother all you Love-Hounds but: Glen Ford, I tried to mail you directly, but the mail bounced. You wrote to rec.music.gaffa: >What gives? I have not seen any new articles in 2 days. > >Is my news feed botched or are people just not interested >in KB? > All articles came to me by Love-Hounds mailinglist. If you want, I could mail it to you. Just write a line telling me what date(and hour) was the last you got, and for how many days forward you'd like to have, and I'll forward a copy of them to you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Music is like vintage wine. It keeps getting better over the years, if those who made it knew how to make it right... Mikael Jakonen mikael.jakonen@mailbox.swipnet.se a94mikja@ida.his.se ============================================================================= ============================================================================= Bones: "Say one thing Spock, you never cease to amaze me!" Spock: "Nor I myself..." (StarTrek V) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mikael Jakonen mikael.jakonen@mailbox.swipnet.se a94mikja@ida.his.se ============================================================================= ------------------------------ To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net Reply-To: CRSO.KateBush@canrem.com Sender: CRSO.KateBush@canrem.com Subject: TREACLE From: del.allan@canrem.com (Del Allan) Message-Id: <60.1758.5789.0C1EAAEA@canrem.com> In-Reply-To: <QQyxqu08248.199507091600@ftp.UU.NET> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 15:04:00 -0400 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) In response to Heidi (?) who wondered wheather or not Kate sang 'treacle' at the end of 'YTO', after 'honey, sugar,honey'...the answer is yes. I played the song a few times to verify it, and IMHO, yes Kate does sing 'treacle'. Thank you to whomever posted to tour dates for The Innocense Mission. I only wish that they would come up to Toronto. Bye for now, Del Allan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 15:17:20 -0300 (ADT) From: Fiona McQuarrie <fmcquarr@upei.ca> X-Sender: fmcquarr@atlas.cs.upei.ca To: "Kate (list) Bush" <love-hounds@uunet.uu.net> Subject: TIM with a Vengeance Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.950709151439.19017A-100000@atlas.cs.upei.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since posting my original note about the relevance of the Innocence MIssion tour dates, I have been informed (thanks, woj and Jeffrey) that TIM has been discussed in this group for quite some time. To which I stand corrected, but I don't think it would have killed the original posters to have maybe told a bit about the band rather than just plopping the dates in without any explanation. Not everyone here has been here for a long time....and, without any accompanying information, the list of dates looks like it could be part of a Spam-O-Rama to totally irrelevant groups. Cheers, Fiona ------------------------------ To: rec-music-gaffa@agate.berkeley.edu From: akmonday@uclink3.berkeley.edu (Anthony Kyle Monday) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins/Personal chat Date: 9 Jul 1995 18:55:48 GMT Organization: Disorganisation Lines: 20 Message-ID: <akmonday-0907951104480001@looking-glass.hip.berkeley.edu> References: <392@absfabs.demon.co.uk> <3tncv5$inc@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: looking-glass.hip.berkeley.edu In article <3tncv5$inc@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, "Donald B. Treadwell" <ltbear@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > If you like the Cocteau Twins, you might like to check out > This Mortal Coil, the lead singer is the same person, Liz Frazier. THis isn't exactly true. Liz did the vocals on two songs on TMC's first album, "It'll End In Tears." They're painfully beautiful tracks (Tim Buckley's "song to the siren" and Roy Harper's "Another Day," a song I think most of us here have heard of!), far outshining anything else TMC did on their other two albums. TMC are not a band, per se, but a collection of artists who recorded on 4AD doing covers of obscure songs, which often went awry, IMO. I do however, recommend the first album very, very much. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Kyle Monday / e-mail: akmonday@uclink3.berkeley.edu / "Jai un a^me solitare" --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 12:00:08 -0400 Message-Id: <QQyxqu08248.199507091600@ftp.UU.NET> Subject: Love-Hounds Digest #11.166 From: Love-Hounds-Request@uunet.UU.NET To: Love-Hounds@uunet.UU.NET In this digest: TIM Katemas Parties List - Updated 7/8 personal service, 1-800-559-6558. Rare Kate poster?!?!? Re: Cocteau Twins/Personal chat Re: Cloudbu(r)sting, etc. Re: Rare Kate poster?!?!? Can you help me find ASTA-L? * To unsubscribe send a message containing your request to Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net. Messages sent to the list proper will be disregarded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 13:43:54 -0300 (ADT) From: Fiona McQuarrie <fmcquarr@upei.ca> X-Sender: fmcquarr@atlas.cs.upei.ca To: "Kate (list) Bush" <love-hounds@uunet.uu.net> Subject: TIM Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.950708134302.1835B-100000@atlas.cs.upei.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I suspect dates for the Innocence Mission would only be of interest to this group if Kate were the opening act. Just a thought, Fiona ----------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 10:07:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Karen L. Newcombe" <kln@crl.com> To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net Subject: Katemas Parties List - Updated 7/8 Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950708100419.22441A-100000@crl8.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ADDED PARTY IN PORTLAND! when where who for details contact: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun. 7/16/95 Chicago, IL Chip Lueck & chip-1@nwu.edu or Valerie Nozick (312) 262-4026 Sat. 7/29/95 Boonton, NJ Meredith & woj meth@delphi.com or woj@remus.rutgers.edu Sat. 7/29/95 Portland, OR Michael Bowman bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu Sun. 7/30/95 Boston, MA Nancy TPerry@vmsvax.simmons.edu Sun. 7/30/95? San Francisco, CA Bill Wisner wisner@uunet.uu.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To have your party added to this list e-mail your info to kln@crl.com For more information on these parties, contact the hosts directly. Karen kln@crl.com ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: jjhhggff <102372.3065@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa,rec.music.gdead,rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc,rec.music.industrial Subject: personal service, 1-800-559-6558. Date: 8 Jul 1995 17:56:19 GMT Organization: via CompuServe Information Service Lines: 4 Message-ID: <3tmgs3$6aj$14@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Personal service for Adults only. Blonde Girls 1-800-559-6557. Black Girls 1-800-559-6558. Two Girls Together 1-800-559-6554. ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@cs.washington.edu From: magus@big12.metrobbs.com (magus) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Rare Kate poster?!?!? Date: Sat, 08 Jul 1995 14:54:32 -0500 Organization: TARO Lines: 12 Message-Id: <magus-0807951454320001@fr-926.cc.iastate.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: fr-926.cc.iastate.edu X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.0b27.4 I'm getting ready to move and while doing so a fellow Kate fan freaked out when he saw the poster which, until then, was never out of the original plastic. I found it at a going out of business sale for a record store and though I'd frame it for my new room. It's of Kate in a workout liatard. Well, he was simply dumbfounded and stated how it was super hard to get, etc., etc., drolling, etc., etc., she should do a workout video, etc., etc., breath in, breath out, etc., etc.. ;) Anyway, was just wondering if I shouldn't REALLY take extra care when getting this poster framed. ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: "Donald B. Treadwell" <ltbear@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins/Personal chat Date: 9 Jul 1995 01:55:49 GMT Organization: Private Lines: 4 Message-ID: <3tncv5$inc@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <392@absfabs.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-okc-ok1-26.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2b1 (Windows; I; 16bit) If you like the Cocteau Twins, you might like to check out This Mortal Coil, the lead singer is the same person, Liz Frazier. thx P.guru using ltbear's system. ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan <dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Cloudbu(r)sting, etc. Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 20:20:09 -0700 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 23 Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950708201215.15276I-100000@weber.ucsd.edu> References: <950626142121_78561458@aol.com> <3t9t65$q38@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3tl6r5$nin@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3tl6r5$nin@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Peter Chow wrote: ] kevinbryan@aol.com (KevinBryan) wrote: ] ]] That's interesting -- when I first heard the song I assumed she was ]] referring to Aristotle's _Organon_, wherein he talks about physical ]] processes such as weather. ] ] Now there's an interesting thought. She got the goods from a book ] about Wilhelm Reich but he may have come up with the name for his ] ranch 'Organon' as you describe. The Organon is =not= about physical processes =per se=; it is part of Aristoteles's attempt to codify the principles of logic. (If anyone wants me to go on about Aristoteles (aka "Aristotle") and Greek here, then let me know. My experience is that some people are annoyed by such stuff.) It's always Dark. Light only hides the Darkness. Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan (619) 535 - 0546 athanatos@UCSD.edu 132.239.147.2 <75013,676> ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: David Benson <dobenson@acy.digex.net> Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Rare Kate poster?!?!? Date: 9 Jul 1995 07:13:12 GMT Organization: The Press of Atlantic City Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3tnvi8$4e1@news3.digex.net> References: <magus-0807951454320001@fr-926.cc.iastate.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: acc03201.slip.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) X-URL: magus-0807951454320001@fr-926.cc.iastate.edu">news:magus-0807951454320001@fr-926.cc.iastate.edu It's really hard to say. I've got several Kate posters, most of which I found out were quite difficult to obtain. But it's all in the thought. If you believe that Kate is a genius, then what the poster may be worth to someone else (as far as monetary gain goes) is meaningless; it's valuable to you. Me? I don't even want to know what the posters, CDs, and images that I've collected (and posted at: http://www.acy.digex.net/~dobenson/benson.html) are worth. All that matters is spreading the word of genius. And that's what Kate is. And why we're all here at gaffa. Not to make money, but to understand, spread the word, and enjoy the music/lyrics/madness that that we're lucky enough to be alive to hear. David ----------------------------- Message-ID: <"95-07-09-04:21:52.42*JWJ"@NCCIBM1.BITNET> Date: Sun, 09 Jul 95 04:21 EDT From: Jay Jacob Wind <JWJ%NCCIBM1.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu> To: drsma%DARTCMS1.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu Subject: Can you help me find ASTA-L? I'm looking for the LISTSERV address of a mail-list called ASTA-L This is the list for American String Teachers Association. I saw a reference to SUBSCRIBE ASTA-L to LISTSERV@CMSUBMB.CMSU.EDU in a string teachers newsletter, but there's no such place as CMSU.EDU. If you know of ASTA-L, can you send me the correct address? Please reply directly to me, rather than to the list. Thank you, and my apologies for cross-postings. -- Jay Wind Computer-literate husband of a string teacher in Arlington VA JWJ@NCCIBM1.BITNET ----------------------------- End of Love-Hounds Digest #11.166 ********************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 12:00:08 -0400 Message-Id: <QQyxnc01848.199507081600@ftp.UU.NET> Subject: Love-Hounds Digest #11.165 From: Love-Hounds-Request@uunet.UU.NET To: Love-Hounds@uunet.UU.NET In this digest: Blasphemer! Re: fruitopia and Inner Light MIDIs, Fruitopia + other albums Re: Anagram for Lovehounds: Sound Hovel Re:Exactly Why Nuking Is a Bad Idea The Innocence Mission tour dates MisK. Re: KT and Rush :-) Re: Cloudbu(r)sting, etc. Re: You're the One * To unsubscribe send a message containing your request to Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net. Messages sent to the list proper will be disregarded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Received: by kiva.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02753; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:27:28 -0600 Message-Id: <9507072127.AA02753@kiva.com> X-Mailer: *Cinetic Mail Manager V2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 15:25:09 MDT From: chris@genie.kiva.com (Chris Hansen) To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net Subject: Blasphemer! Content-Type: text Content-Length: 572 Glen Ford uttered - >What gives? I have not seen any new articles in 2 days. >Is my news feed botched or are people just not interested >in KB? Not interested in KaTe?!?!?!? Just because I lurk doesn't mean I'm not interested... :> Seriously (or not so...), I hope you are now receiving the list so that your life may regain some meaning! chris the lurking one -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Terrance C. Hansen chansen@kiva.com (801)261-2617 KIVA 5525 SOUTH 900 EAST SALT LAKE CITY UT 84117 ----------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:26:39 -0700 Message-Id: <9507072126.AA02821@chaco.com> X-Sender: stev0@chaco.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net From: stev0@zuni.chaco.com (stev0) Subject: Re: fruitopia and Inner Light I found this in alt.tv.commercials (No, I don't ordinarily read that group, but you don't want to know how I found it). - Stev0 the lurker >From: mba01@aol.com (Mba01) >I have to agree: >I dislike Fruitopia ads, especially since these fruit-based beverages are >mostly corn syrup and water. However, the previous writer is correct when >saying that the ads were not targeted to we who dislike the ads. >For the record, >Fruitopia was introduced by Coke in March 1994. It was an attempt to >enter the "alternative non-carbonated beverages" market, a market that >accounts for $2 billion in sales, and is growing by 15% each year. >Fruitopia is reported to have had 60% of Snapple's sales in January 95, up >from 43% of Snapple's sales volume in November 94 (although, I don't think >this is total sales, but sales in the convenience store channel). >Fruitopia's sales were about $20 million for the first quarter 1995. Ad >spending for the year is about $30 million >The whole new-age, 60's psychedelic feel to the ads by Chiat-Day (now part >of Ominicom) and Kate Bush were probably based on Coke's research that >said that the target consumer was seeking not only refreshment for their >body, but refreshment for their mind and spirit as well (corn syrup and >flavorings?). Although the new-age-ness of the ads has been toned down, >Coke Foods must be happy with the 60's theme, since their new >lower-calorie line of beverages will be branded as "Inner Light." ----------------------------- From: btd@carina.cray.com (Bryan Dongray) Message-Id: <9507072148.AA29574@deneb.cray.com> Subject: MIDIs, Fruitopia + other albums To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 16:48:42 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: #!~9y)*(`DeJrF7@bCV@g',|B1cz{HW%j3D|p%'/Cdcp@lV|R+F[5t%BvQ$cZ9P\o*K{*K@ "9J``qn`dbbfv=.O'u_3#eyf(Jlc'9&4Q7$YV5W/R'-M4=8+t4ERuV~cwJ^(!d)l%_ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24-CRI-d] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2879 Hi there, I've been in my own little conversation with someone (about MIDI downloading etc), and just to let others know, I did some close approximations (OK no singing so I used a Calliope, the other instrumentation IS very close). You can get them from multiple places: www http://actor.cs.vt.edu/~wentz ftp ftp.cs.ruu.nl:/pub/MIDI/SONGS/POP armydrea.zip babushka.zip cldbstng.zip and associated .doc files too. I can (if you want) email them, but I'll use uuencode (or btoa if you ask), so check you have a uudecode program of some form first, sorry email does not handle binary. I did post them a while back in the newsgroup alt.binary.sounds.midi so if you were downloading from there, you will have seen them earlier this year. Anyway, the other person I was talking (well, emailling) with, asked me: > Will there be new files in the future at that site? I don't think the song > from the Fruitopia commercial I wanted was there...it's the one where the > music has the beat like a heartbeat...do you know which one I'm talking > about? Also this guy mentioned she had some albums out called "Never For > Ever" and "Hounds of Love", which of those albums contains the Fruitopia > music, if either? My answers are: Yes, I'm working on Wuthering Heights, but the summer weather tempts me outside more than sitting in front of a computer screen. I'll do more tracks as winter keeps me in more. The Fruitopia commercial I do not believe is on any KaTe album. I wonder if anyone knows the background into the Fruitopia deal? Her main albums have been: The Kick Inside (Feb 78) Lionheart (Nov 78) Never For Ever (Sep 80) The Dreaming (Sep 82) Hound Of Love (Sep 85) The Sensual World (Oct 89) The Red Shoes (Nov 93) There have been various singles, boxed sets, videos, interviews, bootlegs, etc, but if you collect the above albums, you'll have all but a few of her songs. Interestingly, if you plot of album number vs days since her first album, shows that up until the last album she took near enough one year longer to release each album (exception of the Dreaming, which took just 2 months longer than Never For Ever). Then a change, The Red Shoes took virtually the same time to do as The Sensual World, so extrapolating this fact she has levelled out to a time to release a new album (ie once every 4 years), the next one should be out Nov-97. Luckily, the previous analysis of when The Red Shoes would be released (which was Nov 94, just count the years between each, they go: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4), this would have meant that the next album would have been Nov 2000. But again I say LUCKILY things have leveled off to just 4 years per album. This is IF mathematical analysis can be done on the time taken to produce an album. Maybe she'll surprise the calculation again and release a year earlier again, ie Nov-1996 - yes! Bryan Dongray ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan <dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Anagram for Lovehounds: Sound Hovel Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:36:46 -0700 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 16 Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950707153527.24750D-100000@weber.ucsd.edu> References: <9507062013.AA14329@chaco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9507062013.AA14329@chaco.com> On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, stev0 wrote: > Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan <dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu> writes: > >> Instead, let's have a lists of luncheon meat that we like or dislike, >> starting off with olive loaf. > > Is that a "Like" or a "Dislike"? Of course. That much, at least, should be obvious. It's always Dark. Light only hides the Darkness. Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan (619) 535 - 0546 athanatos@UCSD.edu 132.239.147.2 <75013,676> ----------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 00:49:44 +0200 Message-Id: <199507072249.AAA07838@mailbox.swip.net> X-Sender: m-13442@mailbox.swip.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net From: mikael.jakonen@mailbox.swipnet.se (Mikael Jakonen) Subject: Re:Exactly Why Nuking Is a Bad Idea X-Mailer: <PC Eudora Version 1.4b22> On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan writes: >Unfortunately, there are other problems as well. > >The ads fall into four classes: [Paragraphs deleted..] And Stev0 the dilletante writes: >WHAT TO DO ABOUT THESE JERKS: [proper suggestion] I humbly stand corrected. What can I say? I lost my temper and didn't concider any implications. If we started to nuke an E-mail account that had been taken off-line, their mail-daemon would only bounce the mail, thus wasting a massive amount of bandwidth. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Music is like vintage wine. It keeps getting better over the years, if those who made it knew how to make it right... Mikael Jakonen mikael.jakonen@mailbox.swipnet.se a94mikja@ida.his.se ============================================================================= ----------------------------- Posted-Date: 7 Jul 1995 23:58:30 -0400 Received-Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 23:58:33 -0400 To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: timission@aol.com (TIMission) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: The Innocence Mission tour dates Date: 7 Jul 1995 23:58:30 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 33 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-Id: <3tkvp6$8ar@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: timission@aol.com (TIMission) Hi, these are the dates for the Innocence Mission's summer tour: July 13 - WBOS Noon show @ Copley Square - Boston, MA 15 - WFNX venue tba - Boston, MA 16 - Theatre of the Living Arts - Phila., PA 17 - FEZ - East Village, NYC (Macintosh Convention) 19 - Valentines - Albany, NY 20 - Pearl St. - Northampton, MA 22 - TT Bears - Boston, MA 23 - Granny Killams - Portland, ME 24 - Metronome - Burlington, VT 26 - Shooters Live - Cleveland, OH 27 - 7th House - Pontiac, MI 28 - Top Cats - Cincinnati, OH 29 - Front Room at Newport Music Hall - Columbus, OH 31 - 328 Performance - Nashville, TN August 1 - Side Door - St. Louis, MO 3&4 - Schuba's - Chicago, IL 5 - 7th St. Entry - Minneapolis, MN 7 - Bug Theatre - Denver, CO 9 - tba - Salt Lake City, UT 11 - Barbatis Pan - Portland, OR 12 - Backstage - Seattle, WA 14 - Great American Music Hall - San Francisco, CA 15 - Luna Park - LA, CA 17 - Coach House - San Juan Capistrano, CA 19 - Valley Art Theatre - Phoenix, AZ 22 - Electric Lounge - Austin, TX 23 - Caravan of Dreams - Dallas, TX 25 - tba - Atlanta/Athens, GA 26 - Cat's Cradle - Chapel Hill, NC 28 - tba - Norfolk, VA ----------------------------- From: IEDSRI@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 01:20:23 -0400 Message-Id: <950708012021_110350876@aol.com> To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net Subject: MisK. Kenny Jow asks whether there are any plans for an official release of Kate Bush's music for the Fruitopia account. As far as any of us knows, the answer is no -- at least, Peter FitzGerald-Morris, our premier Kate Bushologist, says nothing about it in the latest Homeground (No. 55, a typically invaluable piece of work from the Homegrounders -- congrats, Peter!). As for the availability of Kate Bush's music in Midi format, the answer is yes. Someone posted about making some of Kate's songs available via the Web, IED believes. With a good notation application all the extant Kate Bush sheet-music could be easily transcribed to Midi and put on the Web. -- Andrew Marvick (IED) S R I P.S.: IED recommends that everyone who can should get to a Katemas party this year!! ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: 100427.2530@compuserve.com (Peter Chow) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: KT and Rush :-) Date: Sat, 08 Jul 1995 09:58:01 GMT Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Lines: 27 Message-ID: <3tl6qj$nin@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> References: <QQyvup21512.199506261455@relay3.UU.NET> <Pine.HPP.3.91.950626233922.6692H-100000@weber.ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ad13-009.compuserve.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu (Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan) wrote: >I don't understand why anyone would think that there's some sort of >affinity between Kate Bush and a bloated conservati-- ooops. Wrong >"Rush" maybe. Hmmm... I seem to be all alone on this one... (well, except for this person I met at a Katemas do some years ago in Manchester). Everybody appears to be, at best, an ex-Rush fan, having been converted to Katonians. Surely I can't be all alone in enjoying both? They may sound nothing alike but Kate and Rush have both produced tracks filled with vivid imagary and stories. My favourite albums from each are HoL and Hemispheres for the same reasons; both are excellent albums put together with skill and posses a practically 'cinematic' quality that you can lose yourself in. One just happens to have more power chords in it's arrangement than the other :-) Peter Chow from London (UK) ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: 100427.2530@compuserve.com (Peter Chow) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Cloudbu(r)sting, etc. Date: Sat, 08 Jul 1995 09:58:27 GMT Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3tl6r5$nin@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> References: <950626142121_78561458@aol.com> <3t9t65$q38@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ad13-009.compuserve.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 kevinbryan@aol.com (KevinBryan) wrote: >That's interesting -- when I first heard the song I assumed she was >referring to Aristotle's _Organon_, wherein he talks about physical >processes such as weather. Now there's an interesting thought. She got the goods from a book about Wilhelm Reich but he may have come up with the name for his ranch 'Organon' as you describe. Peter Chow from London (UK) ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: 100427.2530@compuserve.com (Peter Chow) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: You're the One Date: Sat, 08 Jul 1995 09:58:44 GMT Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Lines: 33 Message-ID: <3tl6s7$nin@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> References: <9507040717.AA20864@slater.chemie.uni-bremen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: ad13-009.compuserve.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 willker@chemie.uni-bremen.de (Wieland Willker) wrote: >Hallo, >this one is from the new HOMEGROUND: >Heidi Steward, Haworth, Yorks, UK wrote: >"I wondered if you could solve a long-standing mystery. At the end of >"You're the One" when Kate sings "Sugar?...Honey?...Sugar?" after this does >she also sing "treacle"? I reckon she does but so far only one other person >has agreed with me. I don't think it'll bring out a new dimension to the >song or change any views on Kate, but it's just something that needs >verifying, that's all." Upon close inspection [if you can inspect sound] the jury returns a verdict of 'NO TREACLE'. She does in fact sing, "sugar... honey... sugar....WHAYEE-EE-EEAHAGH.... sugar.... sugar". I can see how the fourth *word* could be construed to mean 'treacle' :-) Peter Chow from London (UK) ----------------------------- To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net From: Garrick Twinney <G.Twinney@plymouth.ac.uk> Organization: University of Plymouth Date: 8 Jul 95 13:05:57 GMT Subject: X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). Message-ID: <2ABD6FB61E7@cs_fs15.csd.plym.ac.uk> > Hallo, > > this one is from the new HOMEGROUND: > Heidi Steward, Haworth, Yorks, UK wrote: > > "I wondered if you could solve a long-standing mystery. At the end > of "You're the One" when Kate sings "Sugar?...Honey?...Sugar?" after > this does > she also sing "treacle"? I reckon she does but so far only one other > person > has agreed with me. I don't think it'll bring out a new dimension to > the > song or change any views on Kate, but it's just something that needs > verifying, that's all." > > Listen again. Any idea? Or solved long ago? Oh hello, Heidi Stewart here. ^ I'm not actually able to e-mail anyone coz I don't have access to an account and I'm not keen with a computer really. A friend of mine who does have access, told me about my letter being mailed to the group, and seeing as though I'm staying at his house at the moment I thought I'd take advantage of this privelage(?). I thought I'd better add, that this letter was written a long time ago and it was just a little thing I noticed one day. I didn't expect it to get printed, I suppose I was trying to be a bit of a clever cloggs. Do things like this have to be taken so seriously? Okay, it's a saaad song, I thought that little cheeky twist at the end lifted it a bit, made it a bit more fly-away, y'know (sorry, just stirring!!). I'll tell you where I think it is. It's after the last, "sugar?" but quite a way after it, nearer the end. It's sung a lot lower than the "sugar?...honey?...sugar?" bit...get those headphones on and listen a little harder. I'm really sorry for wasting the time of all those millions who aren't really interested (I thought I'd better say that coz Garrick said I'll get flamed), it's Oh so trivial and so much so that I'm saying nothing more about it. ( by the way, I'm only 17 and so can get away with being so blummin' daft, that's _my_ excuse). TA. -Heidi xxx ----------------------------- End of Love-Hounds Digest #11.165 ********************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:00:08 -0400 Message-Id: <QQyxjk15244.199507071600@ftp.UU.NET> Subject: Love-Hounds Digest #11.164 From: Love-Hounds-Request@uunet.UU.NET To: Love-Hounds@uunet.UU.NET In this digest: Scott Walker Katemas in Chicago Katemas Parties List - Updated 7/6 Vampire-connections Anagram for Lovehounds: Sound Hovel Books mentioning Kate Hey. MisK. Music Gathering in Portland Re[2]: Love-Hounds Digest #11.163 More silliness??? Re: These shoes do, a kind of voodoo ? Red Shoes discography on the Web Exactly Why Nuking Is a Bad Idea No News??? * To unsubscribe send a message containing your request to Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net. Messages sent to the list proper will be disregarded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: kpd000@colum.edu (Keith DeWeese x422) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Scott Walker Date: 6 Jul 1995 16:25:17 GMT Organization: CICNet, Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3th2pd$3c9@spruce.cic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dns.colum.edu Keywords: Scott Walker Forgive me if this non-Kate post regarding another recording celebrity raises your hackles, but I'm asking for address information regarding any forums that support discussion of Scott Walker's music. Thank you for reading. Keith -- ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:34:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199507061634.AA216878483@merle.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: jlueck@merle.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net, ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: chip-l@nwu.edu (Chip Lueck ) Subject: Katemas in Chicago Him: Gee, Valerie, what can we do to create the best Katemas celebration east of the Mississippi? Her: Well, Chip, I don't know. Short of travelling to Germany to visit other ectophiles/love hounds, what could we do? Him: Erm, well, I'm doing that actually. Her: (seething) Not all of us can travel 1000s of miles on a whim. We'll have to think of something else. {both think intensely. Bits of steam escape from Valerie's ears. Flames leap out of Chip's eyes} Her: I know! We can host our own Katemas celebration, right here in Chicago! Him: Yeah! On July 16th, so I can take the pictures to Germany with me. Her: (turning her back to Chip) Harumph! {minutes of silence while Valerie gets over her jealousy and Chip silently tallies the number of hours Valerie slave work at her job while Chip is enjoying summertime in Europe} Her: We'd better get around to inviting everyone on ecto and gaffa. Him: I already took the liberty of doing that. Her: Smart ass. Tell people to email you at chip-l@nwu.edu for details. Him: Or you at vnozick@tribune.com. Her: Sounds good. Now let's be good ectophiles and go to that Barry Manilow concert. Just kidding! Here's a different, more serious idea: Deck the halls, it's that time of the year again! Katemas is near, and it's time to PARTY! Rock in the new Kate year with a Chicago Katemas gathering, courtesy of Chip and Valerie (the other C&V). Music, videos, friendly company, two really cute cats, Tim Cook from England... What more could you want? It's coming up soon -- July 16, since Chip is flying to Germany over the real Katemas weekend. Chip's place is located near public transportation, so it's easy to get to. And crash space is available for the whole weekend. Drop Chip a line at chip-l@nwu.edu, or Valerie at vnozick@tribune.com, if you're coming. ======================================================================== Chip Lueck (Jeff) chip-l@nwu.edu "Drag me, drop me & treat me like an object!" ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:42:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Karen L. Newcombe" <kln@crl.com> To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net Subject: Katemas Parties List - Updated 7/6 Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950706094112.18530C@crl3.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ADDED PARTY IN BOSTON! when where who for details contact: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun. 7/30/95 Boston, MA Nancy TPerry@vmsvax.simmons.edu Sun. 7/16/95 Chicago, IL Chip Lueck & chip-1@nwu.edu or Valerie Nozick (312) 262-4026 Sat. 7/29/95 Boonton, NJ Meredith & woj meth@delphi.com or woj@remus.rutgers.edu Sun. 7/30/95? San Francisco, CA Bill Wisner wisner@uunet.uu.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To have your party added to this list e-mail your info to kln@crl.com For more information on these parties, contact the hosts directly. Karen kln@crl.com ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jul 95 19:24:01 PDT From: Guido Lombaerts <lombaeg@interpac.interpac.be> Subject: Vampire-connections To: Love-Hounds@uunet.UU.NET X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: <Chameleon.4.01.2.950706192540.lombaeg@> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 1202 Hello everyone! Chris Verret wrote: >Seems to be the case. Not only is there the batkate backcover, but last >weekend there were 2 dracula movies on tv and they both contained a >tune that you can find back on Kate's records. >The movies were: >1) Nosferatu (very recognizable tune) >2) The Return of Count Yorga (less recognizable tune) >Anyone know other Kate-Dracula connections? Well, I read somewhere that Kate was once offered a leading part in a vampire-film. Anyone have anymore details on that? And staying with horror-films for a moment. When you look closely in one of the Elm Street films (I forgot which one exactly, but my guess is the third) you'll spot a "Lionheart" poster on a bedroom wall... BTW, Chris, it's great to see another Kate-fan from Belgium on the list :-) And as far as "Turkish Delight" goes... I actually went for quite a long time believing it *was* Kate. So thanks you guys, for clearing up this little matter :) bye for now :) Emmy. Emmy May Lombaerts lombaeg@mail.interpac.be PS: Hi Yves, Marcel and Ulli :) ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 13:13:09 -0700 Message-Id: <9507062013.AA14329@chaco.com> X-Sender: stev0@chaco.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net From: stev0@zuni.chaco.com (stev0) Subject: Anagram for Lovehounds: Sound Hovel Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan <dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu> writes: >Instead, let's have a lists of luncheon meat that we like or dislike, >starting off with olive loaf. Is that a "Like" or a "Dislike"? braffet@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Elizabeth Braffet) spouts: > The speech in Babylon 5 is talking about something different, the >courage to love rather than the hunt for love. Nevertheless, I would >endorse the recommendation to watch that program, simply because is it a >show that is better thought out than most (IMHO). I would recommend "Babylon 5" for anyone who LOVES bad acting, the moldiest of scripts, and special effects straight out of "Battlestar Galactica". OK, it's not NEARLY as painful to watch as "VR 5", but it's right up there. Me, I'd rather watch reruns of "Cop Rock". mikael.jakonen@mailbox.swipnet.se (Mikael Jakonen) rants: >I have a sollution that some might think is a bad idea: >We all agree (even all lurkers) to send a couple of copies each back to >those post ads. >Nuke them with their own posts! ;-) >That way they will (hopefully) learn to stay away. "No, no, no, no, no, no, NO!" - Sam, from "Sam and Max hit the Road". Mailbombing a jerk who sends innappropriate ads is a VERY bad idea, because one of the two will happen: 1) It hurts the innocent OTHER users on the system (not to mention the probably-innocent sysadmin) OR 2) The account will probably be pulled by the time you read the message anyway, so the sender will never see your bomb, anyway. WHAT TO DO ABOUT THESE JERKS: Copy the letter and send the complete letter WITH HEADER to postmaster@ and wherever the letter was sent from. For example, if canter@foo.bar.com sends chain letter to MAKE MONEY FAST, copy it and send it to postmaster@bar.com (The "foo" is just the name of the user's node, so ignore it). You can be rest assured the jerk will never spam again... ObKate - I think William Wegman should have done the cover for "Hounds of Love" - Stev0 the dilletante "Gaffa doesn't mean ANYTHING! It's just something I made up one day while playing Scrabble." - Things we'd like to hear Kate say #42 ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 19:51:38 -0400 (EDT) From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE <METH@delphi.com> Subject: Books mentioning Kate To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net Message-id: <01HSK8HYUF6Q9AO5KY@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: IN%"love-hounds@uunet.uu.net" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi! Emma Bull's _The War For The Oaks_ has a scene in it wherein one of the protagonists comes home in a snit and puts on _HoL_ to cheer herself up. And Terry Pratchett's _Pyramids_ (I think -- it's one of the Discworld novels) has a footnote which mentions Kate (not to mention the harem girl getting abducted on the cover looks ***exactly*** like Kate in a modified Babooshka outfit). If I were a fiction writer I'd mention Kate, but I don't think that counts. :) +==========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu| +==========================================================================+ | "Turnips do not invite fan members to sit on their couches on stage." | | -Irvin F. Lin | +==========================================================================+ ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:02:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199507070002.RAA28427@bud.indirect.com> X-Sender: rfrog@mail.indirect.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: LOVE-HOUNDS@eddie.mit.edu From: Kenny Jow <rfrog@indirect.COM> Subject: Hey. Hey, I was wondering if I could subscribe to the Kate discussion group. I would like to see her music in .mod .s3m or even .midi format...I was wondering if there is such an animal, and if not, if she will be releasing a compilation of her music from the Fruitopia commercials on CD anytime soon, please reply soon. ----------------------------- From: IEDSRI@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 20:21:41 -0400 Message-Id: <950706202140_109419717@aol.com> To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net Subject: MisK. > 2) The Return of Count Yorga (less recognizable tune) What is this less recognizable tune, and where can it be found in Kate's work? > Anyone know other Kate-Dracula connections? As a matter of fact, yes. An early song (found among the "Cathy Demos"), called "Carmilla" (note spelling), is based on Sheridan LeFanu's novella about a vampire. > -- Chris Verret ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 19:57:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Bowman <bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu> To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu, fte@yoyo.monash.edu.au, rdt@oasis.nova.net, old-ways@tomservo.edaal.ingr.com, rfn@world.std.com, love-hounds@uunet.uu.net, John Zimmer <tiefe@agora.rdrop.com>, mklprc@teleport.com, rumpletail@aol.com, nijoh@teleport.com, kln@crl.com, Aaron McEmrys <iceblink@teleport.com> Subject: Music Gathering in Portland Message-ID: <Pine.PTX.3.91.950706194834.10703A-100000@odin.cc.pdx.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Saturday, July 29th I'll be hosting a musical gathering in Portland, OR. This is to celebrate Katemas and mjm (from Ecto) and his wife being in town for the weekend. It will probably be in the evening. Music will be of the Kate/Sarah/Loreena/Tori/Happy/etc./etc./etc. type. If you're interested contact me. Michael Bowman Portland Ecto Social Director bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu ----------------------------- From: armitage.steve@adlittle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 20:49:18 -0400 Message-ID: <ffc53430@adlittle.com> Subject: Re[2]: Love-Hounds Digest #11.163 To: armitage.steve@adlittle.com, Love-Hounds-Request@uunet.UU.NET, Love-Hounds@uunet.UU.NET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part I have the Kick Inside Picture Disk Album (1st Edition) Love Steve Ps Love, Peace and Banana's _______________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 18:39:02 +1000 (EST) From: Brett Harris <bretthar@nswbeta.nsw.BoM.GOV.AU> To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net Subject: More silliness??? Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950707182054.15657A-100000@nswbeta.nsw.BoM.GOV.AU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Katefans, So it looks like I wasnt the only one to hear similarities with "All we ever look for" and the X-files theme..(thanks Thomas, Cary...) Actually I like Cary's suggestion of the whistling from "The Dreaming" sounding like it as well, maybe without the baaaa's however. As for Will Yum, I really meant the whistling type sound that trails off right at the end. I would suggest "Ner, ner, ner, ner, nuh, NAAAAH" is more appropriate for "The Jig of Life". Brett Harris Bureau of Meteorology Canberra AUSTRALIA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Have you ever seen a picture of *Kate* laughing, Mmm do ya think she has a beautiful smile..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@pipex.net From: chriss@unipalm.pipex.com (Chris Stratford) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: These shoes do, a kind of voodoo ? Date: 7 Jul 1995 11:32:35 GMT Organization: Unipalm Ltd. Lines: 13 Message-Id: <3tj60j$jh@unipalm.unipalm.co.uk> References: <393@absfabs.demon.co.uk> Nntp-Posting-Host: dettol.unipalm.pipex.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.11 In article <393@absfabs.demon.co.uk>, James@absfabs.demon.co.uk says... >Also this may be very naive, but if I wanted to see if my independent CD >supplier could get "This woman's work extended 1,2 & 3", where should >I ask him to look, references etc? Or does anyone know who would be the >best supplier local to the UK ? "Local to the UK" isn't very specific, but I usually find that record and CD fairs ar ethe best places to try. There's a particularly good one that does the rounds in the Thames Valley area. Chris. ----------------------------- Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa From: Scott Telford <s.telford@ed.ac.uk> Subject: Red Shoes discography on the Web Message-Id: <DBCKM0.IvC@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Original-Sender: Scott Telford <st@epcc.edinburgh.ac.uk> Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre, University of Edinburgh, UK. X-Newsreader: xrn 7.03 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:10:48 GMT Lines: 11 Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@uknet.ac.uk Sender: cnews@dcs.ed.ac.uk Some of you may remember the discography I compiled of TRS-related releases which was posted once or twice here, probably more that a year ago now. I've added to it a bit since then and it's just occured to me to put it out on this newfangled World-Wide Web thingummy - you can get to it via my home page at http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~st. Corrections/additions, as always, welcome. -- Scott Telford, Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre, <s.telford@ed.ac.uk> University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Rd, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK.(+44 131 650 5978) -- "We do want to tour again, we will tour again" - Kate Bush, Munich, 1980. -- ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan <dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Exactly Why Nuking Is a Bad Idea Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 06:15:01 -0700 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 54 Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950707054241.26051A-100000-100000@weber.ucsd.edu> References: <199507060455.GAA10707@mailbox.swip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199507060455.GAA10707@mailbox.swip.net> On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Mikael Jakonen wrote: > I have a sollution that some might think is a bad idea: > > We all agree (even all lurkers) to send a couple of copies each back to > those post ads. > Nuke them with their own posts! ;-) > That way they will (hopefully) learn to stay away. > > The only problem is: where to draw the line between an OK post and > those to nuke. Unfortunately, there are other problems as well. The ads fall into four classes: (1) Ads from purely temporary accounts. The poster has accepted a trial account with AOL, CompuServe, Delphi, or whomever, and is =only= going to use it to post ads during the trial period, and then bail. The poster isn't going to even be around to read the email. And these carriers are =not= going to go to the expense of tracking down and suing the poster. (2) Ads from more persistent accounts, with normal header info. Here, the best thing to do is to forward a copy of the ad to postmaster or root at the host-site. The administrator will either strip the user of access to the computer, or warn the user that any repetition will cause such loss. In the latter case, some sort of nuking would perhaps reinforce the point. (3) Ads from persistent accounts, with partially censored headers. In this case, your mail handler may report that there is a missing user-id and/or a missing host-site. However, if you =save= the message as a file, and then look at the full header with a text editor, you can sometimes find (1) the site-name, and (2), a message id. In this case, do =not= send the message to postmaster with the =forward= command of your mail handler, because important info may be stripped out of the header by your handler. =Instead=, start a =new= message to postmaster, and then read the saved message into the body of your message. The administrator can use the message-id to identify the culprit. The administrator will strip the user of the account. (4) Ads with thoroughly censored headers. Through a combination of lax security at some sites, and a bit of expertise on the part of the user, it is sometimes possible to make it impracticable to track a message. Unless someone here is a really good counter-hacker, we can't do anything about such postings. It's always Dark. Light only hides the Darkness. Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan (619) 535 - 0546 athanatos@UCSD.edu 132.239.147.2 <75013,676> ----------------------------- To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: Glen Ford <glen@olc.interlog.com> Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: No News??? Date: 7 Jul 1995 14:26:33 GMT Organization: Ontario Lottery Corporation Lines: 7 Message-ID: <3tjg6p$e68@steel.interlog.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: glen.olc.interlog.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) What gives? I have not seen any new articles in 2 days. Is my news feed botched or are people just not interested in KB? Glen Ford ----------------------------- End of Love-Hounds Digest #11.164 ********************************* ------------------------------ To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Video Similarities Date: 9 Jul 1995 23:33:01 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Lines: 9 Message-Id: <3tpovd$pfm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <Pine.OSF.3.91.950703135837.12172A-100000@atlas.cs.upei.ca> Nntp-Posting-Host: plato.ucs.mun.ca Kate has said (don't remember where I read this) that the Ashes to Ashes video was a direct influence on the Breathing video. Bowie's came first. The two clips did not have the same director. Ashes to Ashes is probably one of my favorite music vids of all time--totally spooky and eerie. Cool that it would have an affect/influence on Kate. -- Gord Locke | glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca | "Don't just question authority . . . in St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada | question EVERYTHING." - Jello Biafra ------------------------------ From: LoveHound@eworld.com Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 22:04:25 -0700 Message-Id: <950709220424_11977804@eWorld.com> To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net, R.Jones@mirinz.org.nz Subject: KaTemas in Oz!! G'day all, I'm sorry for not getting this info out sooner. :-\ After talking it over with Stephen last Friday we decided to hold KaTemas this year in sunny Wollongong!! Come one, come all!! Just make sure you let me know if your coming so we can *try* and figure out some place to put you! :-) So, here are the details. Date: Satyrday, 29th July midday through to whenever on Sunday 30th July. Place: MY FLAT! :-) 2/30 Berkeley Road Gwynneville (Wollongong) 2500 Phone/Fax: 042 266985. Bring your own meat and plonk.. #-P We'll be starting the barby about 3:00pm. I'll be suppling all the rest of the nibbles and side dishes etc. Bring any KaTe (or related) stuff you want. I've got heaps myself so most KaTe music *should* be well accounted for. If you need a lift from the station (either North Wollongong or Wollongong station) then let me know and I'll pick anybody up. IT'S REALLY HAPPENING TO YA! :-) | _ | __| _ | __ \ _ | _ _ | _) _) _) ( | | ( | | | ( | | | | _) _) _) \__ |_| \___|_| _|\___|_| _| _| | \___/ ------------------------------ To: rec-music-gaffa@Belgium.EU.net From: chrissy@stro5.vub.ac.be (Chrissy) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: MisK. Date: 10 Jul 1995 08:47:27 GMT Organization: Brussels Free Universities VUB/ULB Lines: 11 Message-Id: <3tqpev$93h@rc1.vub.ac.be> References: <950706202140_109419717@aol.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: stro2.vub.ac.be. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] IEDSRI@aol.com wrote: > > 2) The Return of Count Yorga (less recognizable tune) > > What is this less recognizable tune, and where can it > be found in Kate's work? I believe it's the strange sound just before Saxaphone Song (?) on The Kick Inside. -- Chris Verret...................................chrissy@stro5.vub.ac.be ------------------------------ From: "R.L.Crane" <R.L.Crane@sheffield.ac.uk> To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:43:13 +0100 Subject: "Mother...." and blankness Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-ID: <BCB08AD6D49@Broomhead.shef.ac.uk> Hi, Slightly more serious, this time. Does anyone just happen to know the guitar chords for "Mother Stands for Comfort? And if so,could they pass them on to me, please? You would, of course, be rewarded with eternal gratitude. :-) Thank you...... By the way, did anyone else get a 'blank' 'hounds #11.166 ? Will Yum! "A Different Kind of Tinsel Decorates My Tree..." ------------------------------ To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: Sam <74507.1241@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: letters from Kate Date: 10 Jul 1995 15:29:52 GMT Organization: CompuServe Lines: 27 Message-ID: <3trh1g$hms$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> References: <3t5u8s$ip6@dub-news-svc-4.compuserve.com> Well James, Yes, I have had the briefest, surrealest, heart-racing, fan-like sort of contact with Kate. December 1993, Tower Records, New York City. Five hours waiting in the chill, quaking as the buzz moved through the line that *she* had arrived. Harassing and delighting my co-fans by whipping out a tape recorder and getting their on-the-scene thoughts about KateFandom and being there for the big approaching moment. Getting inside the store, seeing the videos playing, the Red Shoes backdrop, just the top of the brunette head. And then, her in sight. Really her! *HER*, for godsakes!!! This woman who, unknown to her, was one of my closest friends through adolescense. I held tight clenched hands with a white-faced woman who'd been a stranger hours before, as we moved to the front of the line, just barely able to make out the tiny familiar voice offering warm words to dazed fans. It was painful. To know this would all be over so soon...what to say?? Remember to look her in the eye. Remember to say something somewhat intelligent. Remember to give her the book you bought her. Remember to touch her hand. My turn!!!! -- Sam ------------------------------ End of Love-Hounds Digest #11.167 *********************************