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From: Love-Hounds-Request@uunet.uu.net
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 12:00:09 -0500
Subject: Love-Hounds Digest #11.277
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In this digest: Best Works of Marmalade, Vegemite and Marmite re: SPAM magazine Re: Marmitetology Mix Heather Nova HOTFP BLUPUS Re: Are you kidding? things I found in the US which I would've bought if I didn't have'em Re: Hello, Earth Rubber-fan girl? Re: Hitchcock Re: spam filter * To unsubscribe send a message containing your request to Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net. Messages sent to the list proper will be disregarded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 20:06:56 +0100 Message-Id: <199510291906.UAA20216@mail.interpac.be> X-Sender: lombaeg@donald.interpac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net From: Emmy May Lombaerts <lombaeg@mail.interpac.be> Subject: Best Works Eugene and stuffs <emg@unr.edu> wrote: >I saw an ad in Goldmine for a dual CD thing called "Kate Bush: The Best >Works". Apparently, it was only availible as a Japanese promo item, and >the place that's selling it is asking for $300. > >Does anyone know what's on this (track listing), or anything else about it? >Just curious.... The full title of this item is "Moments of pleasure - the best works 1978-1993". Track-listing is as follows: CD1: CD2: Rubberband girl babooshka And so is love the wedding list Eat the music violin Moments of pleasure army dreamers The red shoes sat in your lap Why should I love you the dreaming You're the one running up that hill rubberband girl (extended) hounds of love eat the music (madacascan remix) the big sky moving cloudbusting the saxophone song the sensual world the man with the child in his eyes this woman's work wuthering heights (new vocal) december will be magic again symphony in blue un baiser d'enfant wow experiment IV Running up that hill (12" mix) cloudbusting (Organon Remix) The cat.nr is SPCD-1402-1403 and it's rumoured to be limited to 500 copies. Emmy. "Butterflies don't belong in nets" - Tori Amos Emmy May Lombaerts lombaeg@donald.interpac.be http://www.ping.be/~ping2242/emmy.html ------------------------------ From: R.Jones@mirinz.org.nz Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 17:01 +1200 Subject: of Marmalade, Vegemite and Marmite To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net Message-id: <01HX1LQUK8E20001LC@mirinz.org.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Who would have thought Kate could kick up such a storm about these? Vegemite(TM) is a yeast extract made by Kraft Foods. In New Zealand (and Australia I think?) it is a cultural icon, along with pavlova - the discovery of which our two countries still argue about. Marmite(TM) is also a yeast extract and is made by the Sanitarium Health Food Company (here at least). Marmite has a stronger flavour than Vegemite, hence Vegemite is favoured for smearing thickly on fresh bread and butter. Because of its stronger flavour, Marmite is favoured as a stock (gravy flavouring). It is not a gravy substitute as such, but because both Marmite and Vegemite have a 'meaty-ish' taste you can put some into your gravy to give it a richer flavour. Both products are popular with health freaks because they're jam-packed with B-group vitamins (esp Niacin and Riboflavin). A yummy way to eat Vegemite is to split a weetbix (weetabix in the UK), butter it and put Vegemite on top. Of course the thought of smearing yeast extract on bread may disgust some people. Then again I understand that some cultures actually use peanut butter mixed with jelly ....blarg! I doubt that anyone in their right mind would try to make gravy out of marmalade unless they were looking for a sweet&sour sauce substitute. Marmalade is a type of jam (as opposed to 'jelly', which in NZ is a clear (strained) product) 'Jam' still has the seeds and/or rind in it). Traditional marmalade is slightly bitter and is made mostly from lemons and oranges and their rinds which crystallise in the jam (like the crystalized fruit people put in fruit cakes). Nowadays you can also get lemon and orange only marmalades, of various sweetnesses, ginger and lime marmalades too. For those who like bitter things for breakfast (eg coffee and grapefruits) I recommend you try bitter marmalade on toast. By the way, as John Lennon correctly pointed out the sky is also made of marmalade;-). Who sang "toast and marmalade for tea, sailing ships upon the sea"? Who remembers the 70's band 'The Marmalade'? What were their hits? Can't wait to get my Kateopia! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 15:52:06 -0600 (CST) From: kerry white <zzkwhite@ktwu.wuacc.edu> To: love-hounds <Love-Hounds@uunet.UU.NET> Subject: re: SPAM magazine Message-Id: <Pine.A32.3.91.951029154052.30693A-100000@ktwu.wuacc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I spend 2/3 my time here lurking. I certainly hope that I *do not* receive _another_ 200000 word treatise on spammmmmmm. If "conscripted" I will un-subscribe and " head for Canada until the war is over" 8-> KrW Time flies like the wind Fruit flies like the banana ------------------------------ To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: jws5@Lehigh.EDU Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Marmitetology Mix Date: 29 Oct 1995 19:18:40 -0500 Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4715l0$vao@ns2-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> kln@a.crl.com writes: >Yummy yummy yummy yum >Yummy yummy yummy >Yummy yummy yummy yum Or better yet: Yum, yum, yum, yum, Yum, yum, honey, Yum from the sounds of pubs. sol | Maybe not. -- justin sol los nitsuj jws5@lehigh.edu the world is not coming to an end... ude.hgihel@5swj fauna canzona we will have to learn to cope. anoznac anuaf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 22:02:08 -0600 (CST) From: "John D. Walker" <jdwalker@post.cis.smu.edu> Subject: Heather Nova To: Love Hounds <love-hounds@uunet.UU.NET> Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9510292127.A28164-0100000@post.cis.smu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi gang - I'm sitting here listening to Heather Nova's "Oyster" which I just picked up today after reading about it here. It doesn't sound a lot like Kate, but it is quite good. Sort of like Sarah McLachlan with loud electric guitars. Anybody know anything about Heather? I had never heard of her until seeing her mentioned here. It's definitely more guitar oriented than Kate or Sarah's stuff. I like what I've heard so far. John jdwalker@post.smu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 23:03:17 -0600 Message-Id: <9510300503.AA22218@fly.HiWAAY.net> X-Sender: cbullard@HiWAAY.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net From: cbullard@HiWAAY.net (Len Bullard) Subject: HOTFP BLUPUS Cc: mpesce@netcom.com, jeffs@ncgate.newcollege.edu What is the HOTFP? The HOTFP is a project to build VRML or 3D worlds on the World Wide Web that link together creations centered around the person and work of Kate Bush. Each world should reflect something of her, and something of its creator's vision of her, her work and more importantly, of the creator of the world. That is art at its best: the self and the other. To learn what we are by what we imagine. To become more human by making of imagination what we wish to be. To join others in Making, and become more than we are. Humans. Why? For our pleasure. To teach others about Kate. To explore our desires and in so doing, kiss the cheek of the sleeping princess, which is our imagination that when awakened, fires our souls to grow about the center of the world. How? By learning from each other. By doing. Unlike the T-shirt project, there is no stop, start or final product that determines success. This makes it much easier to succeed. Like homepages, you can build worlds alone or in teams. You choose. When you are ready, you can email this list, and the rest of us can link to you. This is known as "encapsulation". It is vital to avoiding singularities, the black holes of human effort that freeze you like an Argonaut before the Gorgon: too many snakes; not enough arrows. It is only difficult if you try to slay them all at once. You become stone because there are too many choices. By reflection, find the arrow's destiny. I will point you to the resources you need. You must decide what to make of them. Take your time. Enjoy it. You do not have to become the creature in the mirror. Sing for your heart. Who Am I? Len Bullard: musician, father and husband, systems analyst and defense contractor. If you have problems with that last bit, I can only say this on the subject and I will not debate it or repeat it. Our society sends 18 year old children to war. This is bad. We must stop it. When we cannot stop it, we must try to provide them what will enable them to return alive, else we turn away from our beloved ones. War is wrong. To turn away is also wrong. I realize Kate would disapprove of me for this. That is why hers are eyes I shall not see in this life, for that disapproval would shatter me like a hammer to a glass. Yet, for memories of faces that remain when souls have departed, for my son or daughter who might some terrible day be asked to go, I cannot turn away. Selah. Forgive me, Beloved Teacher. Your way cannot be mine. How to Proceed? Because it is unfair to crowd the noospace of others with things which are not to their tastes, HOTFP posts will have subject headers that allow you to filter them. Posts on this subject will always have the same major or dominant subject morph: HOTFP o HOTFP - House of the Future Project These may be followed by a minor or subdominant topic morph. I will explain these as needed. The one above is BLUPUS (read, Blue Puss. Long story.). o BLUPUS - By Little Understandings, Proceed Until Satisfied. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ In the HOTFP, BLUPUS is the pedagogy, or lesson strategy, It means "little lessons" that when understood, impart a technique which can be added to your bag of techniques. Used together, they enable you to create something. Musicians sometimes refer to these collectively as "chops". To learn to build worlds, we can do as Kate does in the studio: little experiments. Each experiment results in a thingie which we might or might not use in building a world. It is easy to build a world, but it is more difficult to know when it is done, when to rest. So, the last bit: Proceed Until Satisfied. As Kate herself often demonstrates, she is the boss, she is the creator. She chooses. So should you. When you are satisfied, stop. Most artists work something like that, but it is tedious and takes a lot of time. It takes as long as it takes. Those who wonder what Kate does between albums will probably discover she spends a lot of time doing little experiments and studying. This is how one acquires chops. I am also taught. Some very fine individuals in the VRML community are teaching me and others and to repay my debt, to help further their dream, a dream of a Garden, I will help you learn as well. VRML was created for efforts exactly such as this. It is the good we do for one another. Each teacher brought something to Kate's chops: techniques, ideas, visions, emotions, symbols, all of this and more. Because acquiring VRML chops is how we learn to make worlds for the HOTFP, VRML will be the ball. To those who are interested, I will be rolling the ball to you! Enough rant. Tomorrow, a real example and some addresses of where you can get free browsers, objects, and some books you might want. Until the Future. len "We're building a house of the future together. What would we do without you." Love and Anger - Kate Bush ------------------------------ To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: ptapola@frodo.ntc.nokia.com (Pertti Tapola) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Are you kidding? Date: 30 Oct 1995 07:43:51 GMT Organization: Nokia Telecommunications Lines: 31 Message-ID: <471vnn$4g7@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> References: <199510261814.AA29586@A.crl.com> Reply-To: pertti.tapola@ntc.nokia.com NNTP-Posting-Host: frodo.ntc.nokia.com In article <199510261814.AA29586@A.crl.com>, kln@a.crl.com writes: |> What I want to know is what kind of glue everyone is sniffing in Finland. |> |> ;) Hello earth! I don't need any kind of chemical substances. Just being rolled over by the Ninth Wave suffices. :-) During the first listenings I was really afraid of waking the witch. :-/ But as I like surreal paintings, I finally stopped being afraid and just entered it. Ooh, its so wonderful watching you without me! And in the morning fog I dream of sheep under ice. :-) I pity those that dare not experience this jig of life. But I can understand it as it requires a firm sense of reality not to get lost there completely. ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pertti Tapola pertti.tapola@ntc.nokia.com (in Finland, by the way) What cannot be talked about begs for inventing an expression. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message-Id: <m0t9hPk-000G29C@zoodle.robin.de> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Ulrich Grepel <uli@zoodle.robin.de> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 00:45:17 +0100 To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net Subject: things I found in the US which I would've bought if I didn't have'em already References: <199510191959.AA27271@A.crl.com> Hi! during my recent holiday I found some things some people might have searched for quite a while: - 2 copies of "A Visual Documentary" and 2 copies of "Secret History of Kate Bush (And The Strange Art Of Pop)", both in Tower Records in New Orleans (next to Hard Rock Cafe) - another copy of the MiniDiscs for The Sensual World and The Red Shoes, as well as a Japanese boxed set ($195), all in HMV in Washington DC (Georgetown) Bye, Uli -- "Ein 32-Bit-Betriebssystem fuer uns?" - "Wozu? Wir haben doch zwei mit 16." [IBM ad promoting OS/2] "Bah, ich habe 4 mit 8!" [comment from Sven Wachter] ------------------------------ Message-Id: <m0t9hmg-000G29C@zoodle.robin.de> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Ulrich Grepel <uli@zoodle.robin.de> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 01:08:59 +0100 To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Hello, Earth References: <m0t8I4y-000Y4hC@miso.wwa.com> Hi! Chris said about Kate and Marmite: > Yes, she did spend 6 months in Australia when she was very > young. But six months is not generally considered enough time > for a non-native to develop a tolerance to substances scraped > from the bottom of beer brewing vats. ;-) Which reminds me of a question nagging in my head for a long, long, long time (gee - there's a question the FAQ-keeper can't answer! 8-O ): Did they go to Oz (and back) by plane or by ship? Ship would have needed QUITE a bit of time for just half a year. Bye, Uli -- "Ein 32-Bit-Betriebssystem fuer uns?" - "Wozu? Wir haben doch zwei mit 16." [IBM ad promoting OS/2] "Bah, ich habe 4 mit 8!" [comment from Sven Wachter] ------------------------------ To: rec-music-gaffa@pipex.net From: overfieldc@logica.co.uk (Chris Overfield) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Rubber-fan girl? Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 08:15:48 GMT Organization: Logica UK Ltd. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <overfieldc.36.309489B4@logica.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 158.234.8.100 X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] I went to the cinema last night to see Species and there was an ad trailer for Durex. I coulda sworn the voice singing in the background was Kate's. Anyone know? Chris "Opinions are mine and not those of my employer" ------------------------------ To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan <dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Hitchcock Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 02:07:17 -0800 Organization: The University of California at San Diego Lines: 19 Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951030020520.16928B-100000@weber.ucsd.edu> References: <951028163413_91963848@emout06.mail.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <951028163413_91963848@emout06.mail.aol.com> On Sat, 28 Oct 1995 LsliHaliwl@aol.com wrote: > Stormin' Norman writes: > >> Whoops! I meant Rebecca. Not Now Voyager! Sorry about >> that. It was Alfred Hitchcock's first movie and I can >> definitely see Miranda playing the evil servant very well. > > "Rebecca" was Hitchcock's twenty-fifth movie. I think that the first was =The Lodger=, based upon a roommate that I once had. (Very messy business, that. Cooked in the room, and you'll never guess =what= he cooked!) It's always Dark. Light only hides the Darkness. Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan (619) 535 - 0546 athanatos@UCSD.edu 132.239.147.2 <75013,676> ------------------------------ To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net From: Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan <dmckiern@weber.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: spam filter Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 02:28:18 -0800 Organization: The University of California at San Diego Lines: 52 Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951030021200.16928D-100000@weber.ucsd.edu> References: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951028121756.7971A-100000@falcon.cc.ukans.edu> <46v21a$i36@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <46v21a$i36@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, P. Dale Campbell wrote: > > rrosen@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Goddess in Training) writes: >> >> On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan wrote: >>> >>> Oops! Sorry! Sorry for two reasons. First, =you= were not >>> originally supposed to be getting =any= of the spam. The program >>> used a hash-value such that your ID and that of Stev0, had the same >>> hash value. [... snip] >> >> Look, it's useless to have me be the one watching for spam, since > [... snip] > > Okay, okay, enough already. Where are the smiley's? The Smileys have divorced. She was carrying on with an agent of the KGB, or somesuch. In any event, considering that the core topic is Spam, the dialogue calls for Mr Yuck. > "What's all this, > then?" That is a deep philosophical question. Bring an electric torch with you. > Who is Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan? This is a somewhat shallower philosophical question. Bring a shovel with you. > Has he assumed the humble > pseudo-moderator-hood from Bill Wisner? Mr Wisner is =not= a hood, a thug, nor a sharpie. He is, however, rumored to have connections with unsavory elements of the Tibetan Freemasons. > Is this, like, tag-team > wrestling? No. A more apt metaphor would be stochastic palimpsest evasion. > I've got some ideas about moderation...more later, maybe. Okay. But keep it in ASCII. It's always Dark. Light only hides the Darkness. Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan (619) 535 - 0546 athanatos@UCSD.edu 132.239.147.2 <75013,676> ------------------------------ End of Love-Hounds Digest #11.277 *********************************