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From: jorn@MCS.COM (Jorn Barger)
Date: 13 Dec 1993 10:54:09 -0600
Subject: An occasion for self-inventory
To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.UU.NET
Keywords: community, responsibility, courtesy, justice, truth... & Kate
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Organization: Person Place Thing Motive Modality Inc.
Summary: HELP!!!! :^)
If my Prodigy-parody didn't make this entirely clear, let me state that the reason I object to my words being used in the FAQ is that *I do not recommend this group to anyone*. I more often warn people off this group. When I wrote the FAQ (by no means an assemblage of pre-existing text), the situation here seemed much more promising, but I feel that those words now only serve to mislead newcomers... and it's newcomers that I'm primarily addressing now... Despite its long (by Usenet standards) history, rec.music.gaffa has not yet begun to have a sense of community, although there is an *appearance* that can fool you, until you examine it. When a newsgroup develops a sense of community, what you see is a loose group of longtime readers who have seen the same conflicts so many times that they share a deep, *indissoluble* common vision, and newcomers can accommodate to that, and profit from it. Here on r.m.g, Chris Williams *seems* to have the respect and support of Andy Marvick, Peter Fitzgerald-Morris, and Peter Byrne Manchester, and if things were as they appear, this could suffice as such a community base. But I'm afraid that the real situation is that Andy and Peter and Peter simply aren't very interested in the problems of community-building, and they're simply deferring to Chris because they have no strong commitment at all (and he does)... I'm certainly willing to be proved wrong about this! I think *any* community-building is welcome, and I contend that its absence here is so grave that any newcomer off the street could make a real, positive difference, simply by exhibiting the simplest levels of rationality... But just because it's simple doesn't mean it's *easy*. A sense of community has to include an agreement about what's fair and unfair, what's kind and unkind, what should be allowed and what forbidden. And r.m.g is plagued by juveniles who define these boundaries in utterly arbitrary, selfish and ill-considered ways... and have no compunction about enforcing their whims with perfect savagery. What to do? Start with this: as you listen to Kate tonight, broadcasting live to North America for the first time since 1978, ask yourself seriously *what r.m.g might become that would make Kate proud*... jorn ,,....;; ::' .,; .........,;, oo ' ,;' :: :: :: \___ :: :: .,: :: ,';, :: /~ \ :: . :: ,;:' ' ....::.,;, / \ | '''::''' :: ,:;;.;;.,;, :: || :: :: ''::...::.,;, :: _|\__ ,:: :: ::...::.,;, :: """;;;;;;;;\ :: ':..;' ::...::.,;, .....::..,;, ///"""""""";;;;;;;\ ___////+++++""""""""""""";;;;@@\ __________///////++++++++++++++""""""""@@@@%%| ....__/0)///0)//0)//0)/++////////++++++++++"""@@@%%%%%/ ..---0)/--------////////////////+++++++/////+++++@@%%%%%%%/ ..///---0)---0)///0)//0)///0)/////////+++++====@%%%%%%/ ...0)....//----///------////////////+++++///= \\ \\/ //../0)--0)///0)///0)///0)//++++///// \| \| --///--------///////////+++///// _/ | .-//..0).-/0)--0)--0)--0)--.. | .......--/////////. _| .0)..0)..