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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 18:16:27 GMT
Subject: Re: sTuff
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Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
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In <1g6aa0INNl3f@smurf.sti.com> stev0@sti.com (Steve Berlin) writes: >OK, "The Dreaming" doesn't have a theme in the way The Who's "Tommy" >does, but I never said it did. Yet it works as a cohesive whole; If >"The Ninth Wave" is a novella, TD is a collection of short stories that >all pretty much have the same "Look and Feel". Take a good anthology >of short stories (Kurt Vonnegut's "Welcome to the Monkey House" or >Harlan Ellison's "Alone Against Tomorrow" spring to mind, but feel free >to use your own for this analogy). Now, any story stands up well on >its own; none of the stories have even the slightest thing to do which >any of the other stories - yet they all build up a cohesive mood that >is pleasing and challenging and say something profound about our society >(ie, it sucks). The Dreaming does this, too. TSW doesn't. (I know >no one said it does, but I'm just contrasting a thematic album (as opposed >to "concept album" - God, what a 70's idea!) with one that's just a >collection of very good to rather lame songs). >- Stev0 the English Lit. Groupie >"Next, we will compare and contrast Homer's _The Illiad_ with James >Joyce's _Ulysses_ with the title cut of _The Sensual World_" > - Prof. Stev0 of Miskatonic U. >-- >____________________________ _B_._`.O.'_.S ___________________________ > Steve Berlin . I + * .o o.* `.E. +. "The more I think > stev0@sti.com ' K * . ' ' |\^/| `. * .X * about sex, the >[Standard (: May All Your |^| Good Dreams better it gets!" > Disclaimer] and Fine Wishes /|\ Come True:) - Kate Bush >================================= _/ \_ ============================== >(c) 1992 by Mike Jittlov (...for all the protection that affords) >Re-mix (c) 1992 by Steve Berlin - Industrial NC17 Mix Well, as an English Lit Groupie you should know that theme and mood are markedly different things. One could argue that *any* good album should have a consistent mood. I think the word you're looking for in connection with Ellison's collection AAT is "tone", because a mood in and of itself cannot say "society sucks". Moods are mute. In any case, I have to disagree based on the criteria you gave that TD is thematic; I think it's unified, though, and if anyone cares I'll explain how. Drewcifer -- *************************************************************************** ** Andrew David Simchik, registered Scorpio ************* SCHNOPIA! ******* *************************************************************************** as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu