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From: niall@marple.as.utexas.edu (Niall Gaffney)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 03:00:45 -0600
Subject: Re: Kate vs. Tori
To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.UU.NET
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Organization: University of Texas Dept. of Astronomy
References: <m0oVuHA-000ilkC@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu>
In article <m0oVuHA-000ilkC@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu>, chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu (chris williams) wrote: > In article <9308262233.AA17069@relay1.UU.NET> you write: > >Chris Williams writes: "...I feel the need to compare female artists in an > >exclusionary manner is unconscious sexism. To insist that artist "A" is > >brilliant while slagging artist "B" seems to be based on some notion that > >female brilliance is somehow "limited" and that there simply isn't enough to > >go around." > Ok, I'll try to state it more clearly. It seems impossible for > critics and most listeners to describe female singers without > comparing one to another. Now this would seem reasonable enough, > that comparisons are necessary for the listener to be able to have > a point of reference. But look through any magazine with a large > number of reviews, and you will notice that the male singers are > not often compared with one another (other than obvious idolatry, > Harry Connik and Frank Sinatra for example.) But try to find a > review of a female singer without pigion-hole comparisons to to > at least one other female singer. Why is this? > Perhaps it is rooted in our male dominated monogomous society. Especially with women who move us in such fundimentally emoutinal ways as both Tori and Kate, many men may feel almost "unfaithful" if they listen to the words of another woman, and that they must defend the ways of their own personal favorite. It is my personal recoletion that most of the discussion of Tori vs. Kate is lead by men (correct me if I am wrong, this is just my own personal recolection and is not based on any real statistics). I too am a big fan of both Kate and Tori (as well as Rossane Cash and Mary Chapin Carpenter for that matter, though this discussion doesn't rage on about their music), and have been know from time to time to compare and contrast them, but in what I hope is a constructive manor, be it philosophical or musical. However this is more to extend the pleasure I get from listening to both of thier works. -- Niall Ives Gaffney --- Department of Astronomy niall@marple.as.utexas.edu --- University of Texas at Austin