Re: "And So Is Love"

[VERONICA WOOD <wood@exis.net>]

owner-love-hounds-digest@gryphon.com wrote:
> 
> Love-Hounds digest        Friday, 18 October 1996      Volume 12 : Number 330
> 
> In this issue:
> Re: And So Is Love on TLTCTC
> Re: Lionheart discussion
> Re: kate bush fotos
> Re: Mike Nesmith, Videos
> Re: Skippy the BUSH Kangaroo
> Re: Night of the Swallow
> Kate about to start work on new album...?
> Re: QUESTIONS ABOUT KATE
> The Sensual World, and Donovan
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From: Richard Bensam <rabensam@earthlink.net>
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:48:42 -0500
> Subject: Re: And So Is Love on TLTCTC
> 
> ABMarvick wrote:
> 
> >> I'm baffled at the use of And So Is Love, as the visuals are dull -- well,
> >> as dull as looking at Kate's face for 4 minutes and 18 seconds could
> >> ever be -- and the sequence doesn't advance the story one jot.
> >
> >Although IED appreciates the qualification in the criticism above, and
> >while he hastens to add that IED has greatly enjoyed all of Richard's
> >intelligent and thought-provoking postings in this group,
> 
> I just can't keep from reading this line over and over again.  It is
> incredibly flattering, especially considering the source.  And undeserved.
> I'm not worthy!
> 
> >he is forced
> >to object to the notion that the "And So Is Love" section of TLTCTC
> >is just empty visuals that serve no purpose in the film.  On the contrary,
> >this is one of the most intriguing sections of the movie, in IED's view,
> >and though not exactly an action scene, it does indeed extend, complicate and
> >advance the thematic program of the whole.  Far
> >from simply a four-minute fix on Kate Bush herself, the clip reveals
> >several fascinating interlinking symbols and images that offer the
> >first key to the larger meaning of the story; and it also puts an entirely
> >new perspective on the meaning not only of the song as heard originally on
> >the album, but on the entire album itself.
> 
> Please elaborate on this.  If there is more to this sequence than meets the
> eye, I certainly want to know about more about it, and would be entirely
> happy to be proved wrong!
> 
> RAB
> 
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> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Richard Bensam <rabensam@earthlink.net>
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:48:42 -0500
> Subject: Re: Lionheart discussion
> 
> ABMarvick wrote:
> 
> >Those who disparage Lionheart are usually fans
> >who never felt the magic of the album *in November 1978*.  IED's long
> >search for the new import album during that fall in Los Angeles, the instant
> >when he finally laid hands on the thing and was taken wondrously aback by
> >its mysterious cover photograph, and the moment when the sacred objeKT
> >finally sounded forth on his old phonograph, are experiences for which he
> >is forever grateful.   Remember that in 1978 the sound of that voice and
> >the quality of the album's production were still rare and novel, and that
> >very little was yet known about Kate Bush at all in this country.  By knowing
> >Kate's subsequent achievements we are all inclined to affix the stamp of
> >relative rank to each, and in such a competition what music could hope
> >to compete -- even Kate's own Lionheart?  But even the "lesser books
> >of the Bible" are endowed, so IED hears, with the grace of God.
> 
> Reading these perceptive words reminded me of the strange story of how I
> first came to acquire a copy of Lionheart.  Have I bored everyone here with
> that story?  Can I just?  Cheers.
> 
> At the start of 1979, I happened to be corresponding with a radio DJ in
> Australia.  (How I came to know a DJ in Australia is a long and not
> particularly relevant story.)  In a letter to this DJ friend of mine, I
> mentioned my extreme fondness for this British singer called Kate Bush, and
> asked if he had ever heard of her.  A few weeks later I received a totally
> unexpected package from him: it was, you will have guessed, a copy of
> Lionheart.  It turned out that he had sent me the official playing copy of
> Lionheart from his own radio station...because, he explained, he absolutely
> despised Kate Bush, could not stand the sound of her voice, and sending the
> album to another country seemed like a good way to make sure his station
> would never play the damned thing again!
> 
> The loss of possibly thousands of radio listeners in Western Australia was
> my gain.  If anyone reading this lived in the area of Perth during 1979, my
> deepest apologies.  I can't possibly repay you.  I was never able to repay
> my benefactor for his generosity on my behalf -- hey, he could simply have
> dumped it in the rubbish bin, rather than posting it to America at his own
> expense! -- however misguided his motives may have been.  (This DJ
> subsequently went on to become a moderately successful television
> correspondent for the ABC, so for all I know he may be a major celebrity
> over there by now...)
> 
> RAB
> 
> _______________________________________
> 
> Richard Bensam Home Page
> http://home.earthlink.net/~rabensam/
> 
> Gaffaweb: A Tribute To Kate Bush And Her Fans
> http://www.gryphon.com/gaffa/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: ttuerff@primenet.com (Tom Tuerff)
> Date: 17 Oct 1996 23:02:01 -0700
> Subject: Re: kate bush fotos
> 
> In article <199610120203.VAA00856@d1.darwin.qc.ca>, lkirsch@darwin.qc.ca
> (l kirsch) wrote:
> 
> > bonjour!
> >
> > I worked as a photogropher for all the major record labels here in Canada
> > from 1972-1989 and was fortunate enough to photograph Kate twice, once in
> > the late 70s and again at the famous princes trust gala in London in
> > 1982.Is there any way I can have this message posted to see if there is
> > any interest in buying these unpublished shots?
> >
> > thanks alot
> >
> > Law
> 
> I would definitely be interested in buying a set of the shots you have,
> and I'm sure others would be, too. How much would you charge?
> 
> TT
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: ttuerff@primenet.com (Tom Tuerff)
> Date: 17 Oct 1996 23:04:01 -0700
> Subject: Re: Mike Nesmith, Videos
> 
> In article <1.5.4.32.19961016194250.0067d1e0@pop.sirius.com>,
> kln@staralliance.com (Karen Newcombe) wrote:
> 
> > Actually, Mike Nesmith continues to produce videos.  His company is Pacific
> > Arts located in LA somewhere.  A friend of mine worked there in the early
> > 90s.  Nesmith continues to tour, and he produce albums and videos every yea
> > often, but most of his work these days is for others.  I also seem to
> > remember that Pacific Arts did some work for PBS a few years ago, so his
> > video business flourishes.
> 
> Uh,  no. Not any more. Seems I heard that Pacific Arts went bottoms up
> when PBS dropped their distribution deal with PA. Perhaps somebody else
> can confirm this or not--
> 
> TT
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Anders Hultman <anders.hultman@unisource.se>
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:25:15 +0200
> Subject: Re: Skippy the BUSH Kangaroo
> 
> > >I also remember that that Saturday morning show also showed Skippy
> > >the Bush Kangaroo so of course I thought Kate "Bush"  was from Australia and
> > >only found out in 1985 that she was in fact English !!!!
> 
> "Skippy the Bush Kangaroo" is mentioned in the KLF track "Kylie said to Jason",
> along with some other TV shows like "The Archie Bunkers Show" and "Some Mothers
> Do Have Them".
> 
> And now back to KaTe KonTent.
> 
> anders
> - ------------------------------
> http://www.algonet.se/~anders/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: st@epcc.edinburgh.ac.uk (Scott Telford)
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:53:53 GMT
> Subject: Re: Night of the Swallow
> 
> In article <199610121731.RAA18620@ravian.globalxs.nl>, .
> (richard68@globalxs.nl) wrote:
> > I've been to a record-fair last week and what I noticed (again!) is that you
> > can buy almost any single except for...the Irish 'Night of the Swallow'
> > single! Is this single *that* rare? Are there some of you who have this? I
> 
> A couple of years ago or so, when I used to read "Record Collector", this
> single seemed to be one of the rarer ones - ISTR seeing one advertised at
> GBP 30 or thereabouts...
> 
> - --
> Scott Telford, Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre,       <s.telford@ed.ac.uk>
> University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Rd, Edinburgh EH9 3JZ, UK.(+44 131 650 5978)
> - -- "We do want to tour again, we will tour again" - Kate Bush, Munich, 1980 --
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: marcusb@algonet.se (Marcus Bengtson)
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:11:41 +0200 (MET DST)
> Subject: Kate about to start work on new album...?
> 
> Things are stirring, at last.
> 
> >Alan Parsons is currently on tour in the USA. At a post-concert meet
> >and greet for members of the official fan club, Stuart Elliott (AP band
> >member and long time Kate collaborator) mentioned that he'd received a
> >phone call from Kate just before leaving for the tour enquiring about
> >his availability for studio work...
> 
> I know that this is the second posting mentioning this but is it only
> me who gets an adrenaline kick out of this kind of news?
> 
> Where there's smoke there's fire, i hope.
> 
> Has anyone heard any other news, indicating that an album is not too
> distant (say in about four years time;)) in the future?
> 
> Haven't heard anything from Homeground about it but maybe You guys know?
> 
> Marcus.
> ____________________________________________
> "It's me that's been doggin' your shadow
> It's me that's been shadowin' your dog
> You got me hung up lock stock and barrel
> I'll always be behind you in the fog"
>                _10CC_
> ____________________________________________
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: marcusb@algonet.se (Marcus Bengtson)
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:28:51 +0200 (MET DST)
> Subject: Re: QUESTIONS ABOUT KATE
> 
> Hi there.
> 
> >Am I the only one who REALLY likes this cd??
> 
> No you're not. I didn't discover KT with TSW but still find it to
> be one of her best efforts to date.
> 
> I think that the reason for many KT-fans not liking it is that the
> expectations on the album after her masterpiece HoL, was HUGE.
> 
> Many (me included) were hoping for something along the lines of
> a double-concept-album and were, initially, disappointed.
> 
> But, as her male counterpart, she moves in mysterious ways.
> 
> Many of my un-initiated friends find this to be her best album, and
> if you don't count HoL i have to agree.
> 
> Marcus.
> ____________________________________________
> "It's me that's been doggin' your shadow
> It's me that's been shadowin' your dog
> You got me hung up lock stock and barrel
> I'll always be behind you in the fog"
>                _10CC_
> ____________________________________________
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: jgower@mtholyoke.edu (Jeff Gower)
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:32:00 -0400
> Subject: The Sensual World, and Donovan
> 
> >>7. Sensual World. Time Magazine gave this album a two-word review: Press
> >>Delete.
> >Am I the only one who REALLY likes this cd??
> 
> No Patrick, you are not.  I also think this is one of my favorite CDs,
> because it is just "like butta", as Mike Myers would say.  Anyway, it is
> one of those CDs that once it starts playing, I don't move until the whole
> thing is over.  The same is true for The Dreaming and Hounds of Love.
> 
> On another topic, I know that Kate did a version of Donovan's "Lord of the
> Reedy River".  I am a big fan of Donovan also.  Does Kate acknowledge
> anywhere any influence or any special enthusiasm for Donovan's work, or was
> this just a one-shot off-the-wall thing?  Just curious.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
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I am a new subscriber, but of course I have been a huge Kate Bush fan
for years and years...This post is really for RAB who doesn't see the
significance of "And So Is Love" in TLTCTC.  Don't you see the bird that
dies during that song later in the movie in her hair?  That is highly
symbolic.
Try and watch for other symbolic gestures--they are there!

On another note, I love hearing about other Kate Bush fanatics--in my
area I have never met one!

Veronica
wood@exis.net


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