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From: TKR@ac.dal.ca
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 23:34:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Tori Amos discussion
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Path: dal1!tkr From: tkr@ac.dal.ca Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Tori Amos discussion Message-ID: <1994Aug5.003422.26393@dal1> Date: 5 Aug 94 00:34:22 -0300 References: <1994Aug2.200523.14401@unix.brighton.ac.uk> Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada News-Moderator: Approval required for posting to rec.music.gaffa Lines: 69 In article <1994Aug2.200523.14401@unix.brighton.ac.uk>, pptjc@brighton.ac.uk (Peter Chow <pptjc@uk.ac.bton.vaxk>) writes: > I discovered something today. It's been bugging me for some time now > but I think I have the answer. > > The question? - "Why don't I like Tori Amos?" > > This was a tough one because I actually do like a lot of her tracks > a bit. The problem here is those last two words "a bit". In most > tracks I find something that I like or that I *really* like but > they are isolated and the whole leaves me unconvinced. > > My sister only has the 'Little Earthquakes' album and the 'Cornflake > Girl' CD single so I can't speak for her new album but what I've > heard so far hasn't made much impact on me. > > It's not a question of skill, Tori is a very competent > singer/songwriter/musician. The production is interesting and has > variety making the recordings involving. In fact, in terms of > production it seems a more intersting album than Kate's first; at > least that was my immediate impression upon playing Tori's album > directly after 'The Kick Inside'. > > It's not really the songs themselves either; The lyrics are good, > delivered with expression and emotion. I could get used to her piano > style which has a definite jazzy feel sometimes and her > predisposition to dischords and the _angular_ shape of the music > (sudden changes in the feel or flow of the melody). > > Much has been made of the comparisons between Kate and Tori but I > tried to put such thoughts aside while assessing Tori's music. > However, in the end it was a comparison that led to my 'discovery'. > > Kate's songs have the same strength of emotion as Tori's but when I > listen to Kate it is with the clear understanding that the songs > personalities are those of actors. There is a strong escapism > element to them. This is where Tori's songs differ. They seem to be > real, too real. This would not be a bad thing except for the anger > and even sometimes hate that she expresses. It is this that leaves > the bad after-taste with me. > > This goes some way to explaining why I like 'Cornflake Girl'. It is > a fictional work and has some of the most obscure lyrics I've ever > come across. This works in it's favour though as I can spend ages > pondering what on earth it's supposed to mean, if anything. The > track is also one that has more dynamics in the melody (less > monotonic than some of her vocal lines). It also reminds me of > Susanne Vega a bit. > > OK that's it. My one and only posting relating to Tori Amos. Interesting points. While I do enjoy "Little Earthquakes" immensely, I could in no way compare it to "The Kick Inside" which is my all time favorite, no contest. But I see your point. The Kate Bush parallels were made too often and too easily; it automatically sets you up to judge one artist's work by the other. I agree with you on the reality bit...Tori Amos' songs are so real they hurt. Sometimes they're embarassingly intimate; I prefer to listen to Amos alone because it's a private experience. Bush, on the other hand, has broken ground by going in precisely the opposite direction: exploring the limits of fantasy and macabre, beautiful unreality. At least in her pre-Hounds days, could be argued pre-Sensual days. I mean, how can anyone listen to the Infant Kiss, or Oh England my Lionheart or the Saxophone Song and not get a sense that that the ordinary laws of the universe might be suspended, just for a little while? Amos is earthy, and rejoices in positive/negative sexuality, pop status, and women's roles. Bush looks at these from a more unearthly perspective. This is not to criticize Tori Amos-- I was enchanted by her work the first time I heard it! But I have always thought that the links were overdrawn, or at least drawn heavy-handedly.