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From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 00:20 MET
Subject: NEW FAQ for rec.music.gaffa/love-hounds
To: love-hounds@uunet.UU.NET
This is the FAQ to rec.music.gaffa and love-hounds. It is posted around
the first of every month.
1. General
1.1. What is rec.music.gaffa?
1.2. What is love-hounds?
1.3. How are they connected?
2. What is discussed on Love-Hounds? What not? Where then? Chatting!
2.1. Who is Happy Rhodes?
2.2. Who is Tori Amos?
2.3. Other mailing lists that might be of interest
2.4. Kate-talk, our very own version of IRC
3. Love-Hounds and their behaviour...
3.1. Famous Love-Hounds
3.2. Flame-wars & abbreviations.
3.3. What is Katemas?
4. Kate Bush Info
4.1. Kate Bush - her carreer and Kate as a human being
4.2. Basic Discography/Videography
4.3. Printed books
4.4. Fanzines
4.5. Electronic books
5. The Archives
5.1. Previous messages from love-hounds
5.2. Other files
5.3. How to do ftp?
1. General
1.1. What is rec.music.gaffa?
Rec.music.gaffa is an 8-year-old newsgroup dedicated to the sublime,
peerless artistic genius of Kate Bush, and to her fans, and many other
"progressive" artists. "Gaffa" comes from her song "Suspended in
Gaffa" (on "The Dreaming"), and (at least according to Kate) refers
to gaffer's tape, or duct tape, used to keep people from tripping over
electrical cabling, and metaphorically, apparently, to a frustrating
sort of limbo-dimension ("the idea of seeing something incredibly
beautiful, having a religious experience... but not being able to
get back there"):
"Suddenly my feet are feet of mud
It all goes slo-mo
I don't know why I'm crying
Am I suspended In Gaffa?"
1.2. What is Love-Hounds?
Submissions to rec.music.gaffa are forwarded to an extensive mailing
list of people without usenet access. This means that anyone with the
ability to send and receive mail can take part. The mailing list was
r.m.g's original format, when started by |>oug /\lan so many years ago.
Together, the mailing list and r.m.g. form an informal fan club called
"Love-Hounds." You can mail submissions, without fear of censorship, to:
love-hounds@uunet.UU.NET
Especially rabid 'Hounds subscribe to the list *as well as* reading
r.m.g., because glitches can cause you to miss messages [hopefully
fixed with the new system]. To subscribe to the mailing list, send a
friendly message to the "moderator", Bill Wisner (who's actually in
California), via:
love-hounds-request@uunet.UU.NET
It is possible to subscribe via various other email services: America
OnLine, Compuserve, MCI-Mail, FidoNet, SprintMail, GENIE, Peacenet,
Bix, Envoy-100, Connect, and others. For example, Compuserve users can
use the above addresses with ">INTERNET:" in front of them. Right now,
Prodigy is not gatewayed to Usenet, as far as we know. Love-Hound
Richard Caldwell offers access for the price of your long-distance call
via the Big Sky BBS, 24 hours a day at 614-864-1198 (1200 or 2400
baud). Another Kate-related BBS is The Electronic Cafe at
1-805-399-3636. A Kate-related BBS in Canada called Night Scented
Stock, run by the former editor of the fanzine Still Breathing. It's
unfortunately not connected to love-hounds, but may soon be.
1-604-572-4733.
1.3. How are they connected?
To ensure that every message from the newsgroup rec.music.gaffa also
finds its way into the mailing list love-hounds, rec.music.gaffa is
a moderated newsgroup. This means that to post an article to r.m.g
you have to send it as an email message to the moderator who has to
approve the article. In r.m.g's case the 'moderator' is the receiving
address for the list, i.e. love-hounds@uunet.uu.net. More intelligent
news software does know about this and if you post an article instead
of sending it to the moderator's address these systems act in one
of three ways:
1. Your article is thrown away. This is the reason why a lot of new
readers don't find their articles in the news system. If you
experience this, you have to use the love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
address by yourself.
2. Your article is re-packaged and forwarded to the moderator. While
doing this, the news software insists on creating a new header.
This is responsible for most of the postings with some news system
as the sender and without any subject. It may be the case that your
article actually is shown correctly on your news system, especially
if the system forwarding it to the moderator isn't yours. In this
case you might wonder why replies or follow-ups to your articles
don't have any subject. If you experience this, you should either
bug your system administrator (to change the behaviour to the third
one below) or use the email address.
3. Your article is directly forwarded to the moderator. This is perfectly
ok, since then your name and subject lines survive.
Be assured again that no article you write is thrown away due to its
contents or your person. It's just the wrong way of posting it, since
the whole process is fully automatised.
2. What is discussed on Love-Hounds? What not? Where then? Chatting!
Topics of interest to Love-Hounds include other alternative female
artists, and Kate-related others like Peter Gabriel and Roy Harper.
Many new discoveries have been brought to our attention by Vickie Mapes
(of Vickie'n'Chris), whose radio show "Suspended in Gaffa" focuses on
alternative female artists, airing Wednesdays from 7:30 to 8:30pm on
WZRD in Chicago (88.3 FM), and Mondays between 10 and midnight on KKFI
(90.1 FM) in Kansas City.
2.1. Who is Happy Rhodes?
Love-Hounds was founded with the idea of being a newsgroup about
"Progressive Artists with emphasis on Kate Bush", so discussions
about other "progressive artists" are generally encouraged. However,
occasionly the talk about a different artist grows to a point where
it is appropiate to form a seperate group. This is what happened
with Happy Rhodes (this is really her name), whose CD "Warpaint" has
spawned a #1 hit on Philadelphia's NPR station. HR traffic has been
moved to a mailing-list that grows more and more active and now
includes many other female artists, shadowing the gaffa-flow.
You can send a request to subscribe to Jessica via:
ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu
To post a message send it to
ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu.
A comprehensive FAQ about Ecto can be found via ftp (see section 5
for details on ftp) on hardees.rutgers.edu in the directory /pub/hr.
The Ecto archives, a lot of pictures, interviews etc. can also be
found there.
Ordering info for Happy's CDS:
CD's (prices in US currency)
Title Order # Price
RHODESONGS AGCD0021 13.99
EQUIPOISE AGCD0019 13.99
WARPAINT AGCD0017 13.99
ECTO AGCD0013 13.99
REARMAMENT AGCD0011 13.99
Rhodes II AGCD0008 13.99
Rhodes I AGCD0007 13.99
Postage and handling is 2.00 for the first and 0.50 for each additional
CD. Postage to Europe is 4.00 + 2.00 per additional CD. Send cash or
check to
Happy Rhodes
c/o Aural Gratification
P.O. Box 380
Bearsville, NY 12409
USA
Happy will sign the albums when requested. Please note that Happy
prefers it if you buy the albums in a normal shop. You can send her
the booklets and she will happily sign and return them.
2.2. Who is Tori Amos?
Another spin-off is the Tori Amos mailing list: Really-Deep-Thoughts.
The address to subscribe to the mailing list is:
rdt-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu.
The address to post to the mailing list is:
rdt@gradient.cis.upenn.edu.
The purpose of the list is to discuss and disseminate information about
Tori Amos and her music, and anything else that seems relevant.
2.3. Other mailing lists that might be of interest
Roy Harper - Stormcock (Stormcock is the name of his "classic" album)
subscribe: stormcock-request@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
post: stormcock@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
Peter Gabriel - xxxxxxx
subscribe: xxxxxxx
post: xxxxxxx
Bjoerk/Sugarcubes - blue-eyed-pop
subscribe: listserver@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
send a mail to this address with a single line of text
in its body like this: (Your Name is your real name)
subscribe blue-eyes-pop Your Name
post: blue-eyed-pop@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
[are there other mailing lists that should appear here?]
2.4. Kate-talk, our very own version of IRC
"Kate-talk" is a process that allows fans to talk to each other in real
time. For more info contact Jessica at jessica@cs.rutgers.edu, who
provides the following information: "You need a unix machine or a vms
machine, connected directly to the internet. It compiles fairly easily
on most unix machines. If you have trouble with yours, I'm willing to
help get it running. Client programs can be ftped from hardees.rutgers.edu
in /pub/icb-client.tar.Z for the unix client and in the pub/icb directory
for the vms client. I know nothing about vms, and do not have a vms
account, so I can't help much for vms people, and I don't have a clue what
to do with the files that are there. I'd appreciate someone on a vms
system trying it out for me :)"
3. Love-Hounds and their netiquette
3.1. Famous Love-Hounds
A less frequent visitor these days is the numinous curmudgeon "IED",
Andy Marvick's self-parody as the ultimate "true believer" Katefan.
IED used to act as the flame-wielding bouncer of the group, but seems
to have mellowed of late into the more natural role of encyclopedic
demigod. Come back soon, IED! [or rather: stay around a bit longer!]
3.2. Flame-wars & abbreviations.
Katefans are generally the nicest people you could hope to meet, but
r.m.g. does erupt fairly regularly into classic Usenet flamewar-
behavior. **We're les concierges, chez-nous, honey, and we let the
weirdness in.** This tender agreement sometimes gets abused, and we
try to do the best we can to uphold our ideals in the face of mindless
astral violence, as Kate would surely want. (If you consider that what
you write here may one day be read by her... be kind to everybody's
mistakes, huh?) Newcomers can rest assured that you are welcome to
participate, and if you feel ignored or incinerated you can be pretty
sure it's nothing personal, and persist until you feel accepted... for
if your interest is genuine, you certainly will be. The best way to
deal with rude and/or uninteresting posts is to ignore then and post
something positive and interesting.
Abbreviations commonly used on Love-Hounds include sideways faces, such
as :-), IMHO (In My Humble Opinion), ROFL (Rolling on the floor
laughing) and the initials of Kate's songs, such as RUTH for Running Up
That Hill (sometimes known as DwG for Deal with God ;^).
3.3. What is Katemas?
Love-Hounds celebrate Kate's birthday (Katemas) each year around July 30,
with parties all over the world.
1991 saw parties in Boston, Washington DC, Cleveland, San Jose, Seattle,
Austin, Dallas, Iowa City, Chapel Hill, Chicago, Ipswich UK, Sweden, and
two sites in Australia.
1992 saw parties in Boston, San Fransisco, Chicago, Australia, Israel,
and San Diego.
1993 saw parties in San Jose, Linkvping (Sweden), Columbus, Oxford
Mississippi, New Jersey, San Diego, Seattle, Chicago (belated&shared),
Wollongong (Australia).
Anyone anywhere else?
4. Kate Bush Info
4.1. Kate Bush - her carreer and Kate as a human being
Kate's earliest band was called the KT Bush Band, (KT being readable as
Katie), and all her albums have a KT emplem hidden somewhere on the
cover or vinyl itself. You might have to have original UK versions of
the albums to find them. The KT initials can also be seen in the
"Army Dreamers" video. With the release of the This Woman's Work boxed
set in the UK, Japan and canada, she introduced a new version of the
symbol, integrating a "K" and a "T" _O_
with the biological symbol for woman: |<
Fans of Kate were saddened by the news of the passing of her mother on
Valentine's day, 1992.
FAQs and most common answers:
She's born on July 30, 1958. No, she's not married, but she has a
longstanding Significant Other: Del Palmer, her bassist, though current
unconfirmed and undenied rumors state they might have broken up. Yes, she
smokes, and we all hope she'll stop. Yes, she's a vegetarian, though she
now eats fish. 5'3", no middle name. She has two brothers, John Carder
Bush (Jay), born 1944 - he takes many of the photos of Kate that appear on
her albums - and Paddy Bush, born 1952, who plays many of the exotic
instruments found on Kate's albums. Yes, she is indeed a fox.
No, she doesn't hate to tour, just can't find the time between making
albums and videos. Yes, she appeared on Saturday Night Live in 1978, but
the tape you can purchase of that show has her edited out! Yes, that's
Donald Sutherland in the Cloudbusting video. No, we don't have her home
address!
Well, at the end of "Hello, Earth" the German words are: "Tiefer, tiefer,
irgendwo in der Tiefe gibt es ein Licht" This means: "deeper, deeper,
somewhere in the depth there is a light."
4.2. Basic Discography/Videography
Kate's new Album, The Red Shoes, is out now. Unfortunately there are no
plans to tour :-(, but what did you expect? Guest stars on the album
include Eric Clapton, Prince, Jeff Beck, Colin Lloyd-Tucker, The Trio
Bulgarka and Nigel Kennedy. At the moment there are two singles: Eat the
Music in the USA, Rubberband Girl elsewhere. Moments of Pleasure, the song
she performed on June 20 1993 in the Aspel & Company show, will be the
next single out in mid-November. Right now three videos have appeared. Two
versions for Rubberband Girl and a video for Eat the Music. A 40-50
minutes long film will be shown from mid-November on, called The Line, The
Cross And The Curve. This film will feature 6 songs from the album.
Albums and other major collections:
The Cathy Demos (Twenty three bootleg gems ca. 1975-1977???)
Five of these are demos of songs that later appeared on albums.
They are available on various bootlegs. (Anybody have an early 80's
album called THE EARLY YEARS?) There are also six "Kick Inside demos",
which include an unreleased song "Scares Me Silly". Also there are two
Babooshka demos and various other songs on boots.
The Kick Inside (TKI, 1978):
Passionate and girlish, includes her British megahit Wuthering Heights.
Lionheart (LH, 1978):
Rushed, rewarmed TKI is still absolute genius.
This album now is available in a special $80 "Lioness At Heart"
edition, which includes a t-shirt, an album sized photo book, a poster
and a postcard. It's out of print now, and you might have to search
a bit.
Never For Ever (NfE, 1980):
Kate begins producing, ascends into the sixth level of enlightenment.
This album is also available in a special edition similar to the
"A Lioness At Heart" box. Also out of print it additionally includes a
numbered certificate.
The Dreaming (TD, 1982):
The Seventh Level of Enlightenment. Too naked for more timid souls.
Play it... LOUDER!
The Singles File (1984):
Box of all UK 7" vinyl singles up to 1984, *tres* collectible.
Hounds of Love (HoL, 1985):
One side delectably bright, one side deliciously shadowy. The shadowy
side is a never-filmed movie of a drowning woman's last hours in the
sea. Does she survive? Kate says so, your mileage may vary.
The Whole Story (TWS, 1986)
Compilation-cum-video.
The Sensual World (TSW, 1989):
Her "most feminine" album, whatever that means. Noisily engineered.
Some love it, some don't quite love it, especially "Reaching Out".
This Woman's Work Boxed Set (TWW, 1990).
Not released in the USA, only in UK, Japan, Canada and France. Awfully
pricey, and no lyrics or credits on the extra disks. The box includes
all 6 regular albums (no TWS of course) as well as two special extra
discs that normally aren't availlable separately. These two discs
contain almost all B-sides, dance-mixes and other incidentals. Some
are unfortunately missing, major ones are: Dreamtime (The Dreaming
instrumental/remix), Running Up That Hill (instrumental), The Sensual
World (instrumental), Be Kind to My Mistakes (original soundtrack album
version, much longer than and very different from the single re-mix,
most like it better), The Confrontation (instrumental from the Comic
Strip film GLC). It doesn't contain any previously unreleased material
or session work with other artists. Great music though, yeah! And the
first time most of these songs are availlable on CD.
The French version is a re-shrink-wrapped UK version. The Canadian
version, currently easily available, does contain the Canadian CDs
which do have thinner booklets for some of the regular albums that
do not always contain the lyrics. The Japanese version has:
- no stickers (4, 8 or 12 or so almost identical KTfems symbols.
Tell us if you think of something to do with 'em?)
- more/bigger books in Japanese with non-canonical lyrics in
English and Japanese, especially also for the two special CDs.
- the Japanese album covers for TKI and NfE, and
- the mythical "better-sounding CDs" (tell us if you believe this).
[actually Japanese CDs are better pressed and more within the
specifications, but on good players this doesn't matter.]
The Red Shoes (TRS, 1993):
Her "most accessible" album. At first it sounds untypical for Kate,
but this has been valid for every new album so far. There will be
several special editions of this album, one official from UK, one
official from the USA, and several inofficial repackagings.
Official video tapes/laserdiscs:
Live At The Hammersmith Odeon (1981):
TV special of Kate's only concert tour, unfortunately it contains only
one hour out of the two and a half hour show.
The Single File (1983):
Contains all of Kate's video up till 1983. Similar to The Whole Story,
but contains five videos not on The Whole Story (the earlier Wow
video, Hammer Horror, Them Heavy People, Suspended In Gaffa, There
Goes A Tenner) and it lacks the newer videos. Not availlable in the
USA, but it's available on import from Canada.
Hair Of The Hound (1986):
This tape is now out of date since all four videos from the Hounds of
Love album are also on The Whole Story.
The Whole Story (1986):
Contains most of Kate's videos up to 1986: All songs from the
corresponding album plus the video for The Big Sky. The video to
Experiment IV is only availlable here, so TSF + HOTH isn't sufficient.
The Sensual World (1989):
Contains three videos from that album and interview footage. The
American version contains much less interview footage than the
British version. The British version is the complete 1989 VH-1 special.
Soon to come (hopefully): The Line, The Cross, and The Curve - the new
40-50 minutes film around 6 songs from the new album The Red Shoes.
There are also far more than a hundred "underground" videos, which
are traded among fans and are shown at Katemas parties and the like.
These are primarily television performances and interviews.
Kate has worked with a lot of other artists:
- Roy Harper:
- You (The Game Part II). From "The Unknown Soldier"
- Once. From "Once"
- Peter Gabriel:
- No Self Control,
- Games Without Frontiers. Both from "III (melted face)"
- Don't Give Up. From "So"
- Keine Selbstkontrolle,
- Spiel ohne Grenzen. Both from the German version of "III"
There are remixes of Games Without Frontiers. Don't Give Up exists in
various lengths, the biggest differences are in the intro and extro.
- Leslie Duncan:
- Sing, Children Sing.
- Zaine Griff
- Flowers. From "Figures"
- Ray Shell
- The Man With The Child In His Eyes
- Big Country
- The Seer. From "The Seer"
- Go West
- The King Is Dead. From "Dancing On The Couch"
- Midge Ure
- Sister And Brother. From "Answers To Nothing"
- Rowan Atkinson
- Do Bears Sh... in the Woods? From "The Utterly Utterly Live Comic
Relief"
- Various:
- The Spirit Of The Forest
- Ferry Aid:
- Let It Be
Remaining officially published non-album and non-TWW items are:
- Rocket Man single
- Rocket Man
- Candle In The Wind
- Candle In The Wind
- Brazil soundtrack
- Brazil
- Rubberband Girl 12" version (from the everywhere-outside-the-US-single)
- Eat the Music 12" version (from the US-single)
4.3. Printed books
Printed books on Kate are numerous, more details about and corrections
to these books are available in the archives:
Kate Bush - A Visual Documentary (1988):
Probably the best liked book overall.
Kate Bush Complete (1987):
"Official" book containing the sheet music to all of Kate's songs up to
1986. Also contains separate lyrics, a great chronology, many photos,
and a discography.
Cathy (1986):
Book of photos of Kate as a child, by her brother, John Carter Bush.
No longer available. :-(
The Illustrated Collector's Guide To Kate Bush (1991):
Book with details and pictures of all kinds of Kate Kollectables, fun
even for non-collectors. To order send $13.95 to C-SIDE RECORDS,
PO BOX 8456 CLEARWATER, FL 34618. Phone 1-813-461-4327. C-SIDE is
also a good place to get all kinds of Kate stuff, be sure to get on
their mailing list.
Kate Bush - The Whole Story (1988):
Despite appearances, not a sanctioned book, and certainly not the whole
story. Positive, but contains numerous factual and publishing errors.
For "The Whole Story" on this book, see Andrew Marvick's review in the
archives.
Kate Bush - The First Twelve Years (1992):
Homeground says: is another collection of newpaper and magazine cutting
covering the years from 1978 in two volumes selling for about L12-00 in
Britain and L15 postpaid to America. Details can be obtained via the
fanzine Never For Ever. [See below]
Kate Bush - With Love (1988):
Reprints of Kate-related articles, interviews, and reviews, some
positive, some negative. Interesting mainly to see how the music press
has reacted to Kate over the years.
Secret History of Kate Bush (And The Strange Art Of Pop) (1983):
Intellectual (as opposed to intelligent) book abut Kate's family
history, story, and fans. Commonly available, but only recommend for
the photos.
Kate Bush: Princess of Suburbia by Fred and Judy Vermorel (1980?):
Not so good. Hard to find.
Kate Bush: An Illustrated Biography (1980) by Paul Kerton:
Positive but error-prone book. Hard to find. Was also available in
German.
4.4. Fanzines
After being on love-hounds for a few months, most fans find the
fanzines rarely have information they have not already heard. The most
common fanzines are the Kate Bush Club (KBC) and Homeground. More
about these and other fanzines can be found in "The Garden". See section
4.5 for details.
Kate Bush Club (KBC):
The KBC unfortunately only seems to come now when there is a new
album out, but is always worth the wait as it has original articles
by Kate and her family and lots of great photos.
KBC
PO Box 120
Welling, Kent, DA16 3DS
UK
Homeground
Homeground comes out almost regularly and has news, great
articles, stories, and drawings.
Homeground
PO Box 176
Orpington, Kent, BR5 3NA
UK
Never For Ever
Never For Ever is another long-establish fanzine.
28 Millbrook
St. Plasmarl
Swansea SA6 8JY
Wales
4.5. Electronic books
Two priceless resources for Katefans have recently been made available,
both of which are much more interesting then anything published. They
can be ftped from ftp.uu.net, as usual. See section 5 for details.
"The Garden"
The Garden is Andrew Marvick's compilation of reference material on
Kate, [availible in .../kb/garden] including a detailed chronology of
her life and career (much more complete then anything available
anywhere else) [GARDEN01]. Also, a listing of all known Kate
recordings, videography (which includes both official videos and the
television appearances), and an extensive list of fan magazines
[GARDEN02]. ALL of the lyrics (including background voices) to ALL of
Kate's known songs (including unreleased songs) [GARDEN04]. All of
John's and Paddy's [GARDEN03] interviews and articles for the Kate Bush
Club Newsletter, as well as Kate's articles for the KBC [GARDEN05,
GARDEN06]. Also included are about sixty interviews [GARDEN07 through
GARDEN10].
"Cloudbusting - Kate Bush In Her Own Words"
This is Ron Hill (the [ex-]keeper of this monthly post)'s compilation
of almost 200 interviews, sorted by song, story, and subject order,
forming the closest we may ever see to a full-fledged Kate
autobiography. It is available in regular text format, or in
Wordperfect 4.2 format, which makes use of Wordperfect's underlining,
bolding, and italizing, ability, and contains an extensive index. It
is also available in MacWrite II, PostScript, and Word 4.0 versions.
(Eventually the extra unedited interviews will be added into The
Garden).
There are also a series of Cloudbusting GIF (picture) files, which are
located in .../kb/cloudbusting/gif [APPARENTLY THESE ARE TRASHED]. A
title page [CTITLE.GIF and a larger version, CTITLEB.GIF], a title page
for Part II [CSTORY.GIF] and part III [CSUBJECT.GIF], a credits screen
[CREDITS.GIF], and a pic of 3 inch disk label [CLABEL.GIF, and a b&w
version CLABELBW.GIF]. There are also pictures for most of the albums
which show the picture of Kate from the album cover next to a listing
of songs [titles begin with "O"]. There are also "alternative" pics for
some of the albums, which show pictures SIMILAR to but not identical
to the album covers [files begin with "A"]. There are also "full"
pictures for some of the albums [titles begin with "F"], which are the
raw, uncropped, pictures.
Cloudbusting is available in .../kb/cloudbusting. The text version is
in .../kb/cloudbusting/text. Filenames are cloud0.txt, cloud1a.txt,
cloud1b.txt, cloud1c.txt, cloud2a.txt, cloud2b.txt, cloud3a.txt, cloud
3b.txt, cloud3c.txt, cloud4.txt, cloud5.txt, clouds.txt. It is also
available compressed with ZIP in .../kb/cloudbusting/zip as filenames
cloud045.zip, cloud1.zip, cloud2.zip, cloud3.zip.
"Deeper Understanding - A collection of Kate Bush articles"
This third, in-progress book, also by Ron Hill, will compile the "best
of" the Love-Hounds as well as a few articles from fan magazines and
lots of published reviews. It'll be about five megs in size.
5. The Archives
The love-hounds archive resides on ftp.uu.net [137.39.1.9], in the
directory /usenet/rec.music.gaffa - if you don't know how to do ftp
(or what ftp is), then see section 5.3. All pathnames with '...' at
the beginning should have '/usenet/rec.music.gaffa' before them.
There's also an incoming directory.
Most of these files can also be found on Dave Datta's music archive
residing on ftp.uwp.edu.
5.1. Previous messages from love-hounds
All previous messages from love-hounds can be ftped from the archives,
residing in yearly directories under .../archives. Normally the archives
are a bit behind reality, at the moment the messages up to June 93 are
in the archives. The rest will follow whenever Bill has time.
5.2. Other files
All other files are in .../kb. These include:
- The two electronic books mentioned above
- lyrics to ALL songs
- interviews
- reviews
- pictures, mostly GIF, all under .../kb/pix:
- from the 1990 Kate Bush Convention, including pics of Kate's house
and a Love-Hounds group pic (lovename.pic)
- from the Cathy book (cathy??.gif)
- from the This Woman's Work booklet (TWW??.gif)
- from the Tour of Live booklet (page_??.gif)
- from all albums [anyone with The Red Shoes?]
- and uncounted more
To view these GIFs you will need a program for your type of computer.
Public domain picture file viewers include CSHOW and PICEM for the IBM,
TURBOGIF and HAMGIF for the Amiga, Giffer or QuickGif for the
Macintosh, and ImageViewer for the NeXT.
5.3. How to do ftp?
To use ftp directly you have to have direct access to the internet.
You connect by typing
ftp ftp.UU.NET [or: ftp 137.39.1.9]
Log in as "anonymous" or "ftp" and use your username as your password.
To change directories e.g. type
cd /usenet/rec.music.gaffa
Other commands are:
dir <dirname> [get a directory, <dirname> is optional, current
if omitted]
get <filename> [get the requested file]
bin [set transfer to binary mode, this is needed
for pictures and compressed files. Best is
if you always do 'bin' first, so you don't forget]
bye [end the ftp session]
If you don't have FTP (file transfer ability) you can still get the files
by using an FTP mail server run by DEC. You send it a list of commands
and then it sends you the files as regular mail messages, so anyone who
has the ability to send and receive private mail can use this. If a file
is larger then 60k it will be send as more than one message.
If you want to GET binary files (GIF picture files, Wordperfect files, or
anything that's not straight text) it will send you the files in a
special text format called UUENCODED, you will need a program called
UUDECODE for your computer to decode these. Note that this is not always
the most relible way of getting files, ie you may have to do it several
times.
To start off using this, send a message to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com, the
first message should read simply HELP - don't bother with a subject line
as these are ignored. You will be sent back the basic commands and some
examples, read this carefully (as much as you are able to understand).
Here are some specific examples for accessing the love-hounds archives,
don't type the parts in brackets []. Note that when typing in file names,
upper and lower case are important! Parts in <> have to replaced by
something useful.
-> Connect to the archives and get a directory of some of the main areas:
reply <your address> [this may or may not be needed on all
messages for your system]
connect ftp.UU.NET [connect to the file archives]
chdir usenet/rec.music.gaffa/kb [change to the main area, only one
CHDIR per session]
dir [get directory of main area]
dir garden [get directory of GARDEN files]
dir cloudbusting [get directory of Cloudbusting dirs]
dir pix [get dir of pix directories]
quit
-> Connect to the Cloudbusting section and get some text files:
reply <your address>
connect ftp.UU.NET
chdir usenet/rec.music.gaffa/kb/cloudbusting/text
[change to Cloudbusting subdirectory]
get cloud1a.txt [GET a file]
get cloud1b.txt [GET another file, only 10 at once]
get cloud1c.txt
quit
-> Connect to the GARDEN section and get some GARDEN files:
reply <your address>
connect ftp.UU.NET
chdir usenet/rec.music.gaffa/kb/garden
[change to garden subdirectory]
get GARDEN01 [GET first GARDEN file]
get GARDEN02 [GET another file, only 10 at once]
quit
-> Connect to pix.hill and get love-hounds picture:
reply <your address>
connect ftp.UU.NET
chdir usenet/rec.music.gaffa/kb/pix/pix.hill
uuencode [specify UUENCODE format]
binary [specify BINARY format]
get LOVENAME.GIF
quit
For those without FTP capabilities or the patience to figure all this out,
the BBSes listed above offer the GIFs and many of the other files too.
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