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From: stevew@hal.com (Steve Williams)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 93 0:08:50 CST
Subject: So shoot me
To: love-hounds@uunet.UU.NET
Let me offer a [theory|feeling] (each side choose appropriate term) on the current riot taking place here in Love-Hound Land. About a year ago, give or take 6 months, Jorn became tired of what he saw as the then-ubiquitous tendency amongst Love-Hounds for constant knee-jerk flaming, personal attacks, and unresponsiveness toward submissions that expressed "feeling". He wrote a few emotional, but generally accepted articles deploring that state of affairs (which didn't necessarily bother all of us), and then he started the "WarmRoom" mailing list and more or less withdrew from everyday Love-Hounds participation. For whatever reasons, WarmRoom never really developed. Jorn tried hard (and well) to seed the discussions, but things just didn't get rolling. (I signed up even though I had no problem with anything taking place with L-H. Like many, though, I was there mainly as a taker, not a giver, just to see what there was to see.) Anyway, WarmRoom fizzled as a mailing list, partly because of low activity and partly, I now gather, because of some logistical/political problems. Whatever. Now here comes good old Jorn back to Love-Hounds, and many (most?) of us long-timers were probably glad to see him back. Glad that he'd be contributing; glad that he hadn't completely written the group off; glad that he'd be providing his perspective; even glad that he'd be there to prickle the stalwart Drukman, and be around to *be* prickled by Jon. Face it -- until KaTe either puts that next album out or heads out on the tour she hinted at during the Konvention, all we've got is one another plus the moderate distraction of answering the questions of the newbies. Like I said, here's Jorn back in L-H, making a mildly goofy but intriguing proposal about emotional state being preserved on certain material objects. (I'm over-generalizing here to avoid getting into the actual subject of debate.) His article provoked the typical range of responses, most of them by doubters and a few of those exhibiting the usual *moderate* flamage and/or baiting. Suddenly, Jorn shifts into TERMINATOR mode, brutally slamming anyone and everyone. Mean, crude, calculated personal attacks blatantly designed -- begging -- to incite others to slip into the same ugly mode. I think it's all intentional, and sad. By definition, the Jorn of old could never have written the things we've seen lately, and he wouldn't have endured the things written back. For whatever reason, Jorn has (this is only my weak theory), come back into L-H determined to overdo the very things that he decried before when he partially withdrew. How far can he push people? Pretty far apparently, without even trying very hard. How long will he continue? As long as others keep it going. He's making a point, and the point has nothing to do with emotional imprinting of magnetic media or anything else. Jorn: If I'm completely off the mark here -- and I sure could be, because I'm struggling to understand the most viscious, hateful behavior I've seen in this group in years, coming from the most unlikely source I can imagine -- then you can correct me once (nicely, please) and I'll stand corrected. But if I'm even partially right, then why don't you consider your point made and let it go? If you can't let it go, then why don't all parties wrap it up here in this particular public forum and move the hate into private mail or some other more appropriate newsgroup or mailing list? Jon, Larry S., Angelos, Lazlo, others: Drop it. Let it go. Either you're being baited by a pro or you're dealing with someone whose smoke-addled fanaticism has a much longer half-life than any of us can survive. I'm sorry I even had to write some of this. Next, I'll probably be sorry I ever sent it. -- Steve "It is this that brings us together." -- KB (Yeah, right...)