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From: PMANCHESTER@ccmail.sunysb.edu
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 89 16:32 EST
Subject: HOL Singles/mop-up
State University of New York at Stony Brook Stony Brook, NY 11794-3725 Peter Manchester Religious Studies 632-7312 11-Nov-1989 04:28pm EST FROM: PMANCHESTER SUBJECT: HOL Singles/mop-up In his defense against heresy charges, Meister Eckhart once said, "I can be in error, but I cannot be a heretic; because error is a matter of the intellect, but heresy a matter of the will." After all these years of staggering around with only a small circle of like-minded Kate Bush fanatics to test hypotheses upon and share scraps of hard-won information with, it is rewarding--if also a little stinging--to experience how quickly and effectively mistakes and misunderstandings get corrected by the Love-Hounds conversation. As perpetrator of two recent ones, allow me for the record to accept correction. "Spinning Pups." Thanks to Maitland Bottoms <bottoms@radar.nrl.navy.mil>, David Heath <dave@boingo.med.jhu.edu>, and the others who corrected my mistaken surmise about this compilation. Having seen it listed under Kate Bush in Schwann, at a time when HOL was already in release in Britain but its US release date kept getting postponed (to coincide with Hurricane Gloria, as it turned out!), I jumped to conclusion too quickly. Thanks also to Jeff Hansen (hansen@cs.wmich.edu) for describing the record: > The Kate Bush song on _Spinning Pups_ is "The Man With the > Child in His Eyes." I bought the disc for "Turning Japanese" by > the Vapors, and it was doubly bought when I saw the Kate track. > It also includes "TalkTalk" by Talk Talk, although I'm not quite > sure on this one. I picked it up at a local used record store. > Apparently, the "pups" referred to are tiny magnets or some such > nonsense you toss onto phonograph as it's playing your favourite > "Milli Vanilli" album. Nice cover picture of two pup-spazzed > kids and hereformentioned pups. "Not this Time" Doug Alan insists I have the last line of the vocal wrong: > It's "C'mon, we all SING" -- not "C'mon, we all sin"! Having not been alone in hearing it my way, and being still uncertain based on the vocal itself, I am tempted to be stubborn here, but in fact, on song-structure grounds, Doug's version IS more plausible and I accept correction. The line does effect a transition from the lyric to the choral finale, and it is quite natural that we all be enlisted to join in. Doug is also irritated that I like the song so much: > A mighty song??? You mean that lousy song that might have been > really good if Kate hadn't totally botched it with a wretched > Journey-esque arrangement? Here I do not repent. I'll admit that it is more the lyric that I find compelling than the arrangement, so perhaps I should lay my head back on the block again and print the lyric that I hear: NOT THIS TIME Oh with the mind that renders everything sensitive What chance do I have to be here Put an end, put an end Put an end to every dream When you're near I feel you And I forget myself Not this time baby Not this time Not this time baby I dunno why I'm giving men undue woe every time And here I am a'wondering why I'm doing it again To the A, to the O To the A, to the O To the O that's bursting To keep me going and to keep the shit away I don't know what it is Every time you're near I feel you And I forget myself No, not this time baby Not this time out Not this time Not this time C'mon, we all sin(g) To me this is Kate singing very directly and personally out of the deep ambivalence she feels in relationships. The "baby" addressed seems to me to be an individual man, men in general, her audience, heaven and destiny; "not this time" means not tonight, not this time in our lives, but maybe also not this lifetime, not this world. "To the A, to the O" I take to be Alpha and Omega (omega is "the O that's bursting," descriptive of the Greek letter), an ancient catholic liturgical image that she would have met every year in childhood at a particularly dramatic moment in the ritual for the Easter vigil mass, representing this whole creation as made total in Christ. "What chance do I have to be here? Put an end to every dream." Does the "you" who draws near and lets her forget herself console her? Or is it the same as "baby," so that she is constantly caught between some 'true' self she would keep to herself and the self that gets caught up in relationships? The title line, at any rate, is sung with a very affecting complexity of emotion--strong decisiveness mixed with anguished regret. This at any rate is the take on the song that made "c'mon, we all sin!" seem to make sense to me, as a wise, human resolution that lets her keep on going. Allow me to invoke it one last time, before I let go of it as my error. Among reasons I persisted in this mis-hearing is that I included it--along with this account of the A and the O--in a letter to Kate, to which she replied, letting it stand. This is probably simply her courtesy, or that together with the delight she takes in enticing people to hear their own things in her lyrics. But I mention this not in my defense, but as background to Ed Suranyi's commendable concern with getting the record straight: > p manchester writes: >> called "The Organon Remix." Kate acknowledged in >> correspondence that this was a spelling error on her part, >> since Reich's ranch in Maine was called "Orgonon," based on >> "Orgone" energy, with an o. > For the record, Kate never said this in "correspondence", > at least not that IED is aware of. |>oug claims (OK, informs us > with indisputable authority and credibility--satisfied, |>oug?) > that Kate told _him_ it was "unintentional". However, John > Carder Bush, when asked directly about the spelling, replied, > "It could be intentional." Since both |>oug and IED are now > agreed that Kate cannot always be believed, you can take your > pick of the available explanations of this spelling "error". I was reporting from correspondence between me and Kate. The relevant paragraph of my letter to her of May 18, 1986 ran like this: "I am a 43 year old professor of philosophy and speculative theology, which I believe I can verify by my first remark, which is to complain pedantically that Peter Reich follows his father Dr. Reich's practice of spelling 'Orgonon' as I have just written it, with an 'o', from 'orgone' energy, whereas your song title and lyrics for "Cloudbusting" write 'Organon'. Organon was originally the title given to the five logical treatises of Aristotle by his editor of record, Andronicus of Rhodes. It has thereafter had some currency among philosophers as a title for a general methodological tractate, or an 'instrument of thought' in the sense of a fundamental logical mechanism. I would not put it past you to be aware of this fact, at least subliminally, and to have perpetrated a deliberate pun. But I rather suspect I have caught you in a spelling error. "Of course maybe you have a whole thing with A and O, Alpha and Omega": my ears hear the lyric in "Not This Time" as To the A, to the O To the A, to the O To the O that's bursting To keep me going and to keep the shit away. And certainly you're right that we all sin!" In her reply (undated, but immediate), Kate writes: "I'm afraid the Orgonon mis-spelling IS a mistake and we were aware of this as soon as we saw the 'copy'. It is very difficult to correct everything and this one slipped through my hands but I find it a wonderful experience when errors of this kind give birth to such fascinating theories!" [I am nervous about transcribing private correspondence, but this one issue seems to have come to her and the family from several angles, so I place this much of our exchange on the record.] "Alternate Hounds of Love" >> [Peter Manchester:] "Hounds of Love" is one of the most >> important of the single releases, because the 12" (12KB 3) >> presented "Alternative Hounds of Love," an early sketch of the >> song that goes in a different direction than the final version, >> and has become my favorite. |>oug objects: > What makes you think that this in an "early sketch" of the song > rather than a later variation? Fair enough--it is only a surmise, but I would say a very natural one. We know how Kate works; she works up a demo of a song, tries out various approaches to the vocal, looking for the feeling, the 'ring' of the song. "Alternate Hounds" has got the drum, strings (are they still synthesizer at this point?), and background vocals pulled together in the same arrangement as the album version, but the lyric seems rudimentary compared to the album version, all refrain in effect, and the vocal sounds to me like it is working more on feeling and expression than final design of the song, without the modulation and variation of the album version. My assumption: she released the song in its final form, but then decided she couldn't let go of the slightly different, bawdier, straight-ahead feeling of an earlier form, and shared it with us. A O A O A O A O A O A O A O A O A O A O A O A O A O A O A O A O pmanchester@ccmail.sunysb.edu > pmanchester@sbccma.bitnet < "C'MON, WE ALL SING" Peter Manchester > --Not This Time