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From: IED0DXM%OAC.UCLA.EDU@mitvma.mit.edu
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 89 10:55 PDT
Subject: Kate-echisminimism; and Phone message news
To: Love-Hounds From: Andrew Marvick Subject: Kate-echisminimism; and Phone message news Jon Drukman, you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about. Doug _did_ indeed state--as a fact--that Kate had made that statement about _Nice_to_Swallow_ herself, in jest. When he said that, IED denied that she had said that. It was _then_ that Doug qualified his statement with the equivocating remark he re-posted as "proof" of his intellectual caution yesterday. IED, unfortunately, does not keep records going that far back, so no doubt Doug will choose to disbelieve me (since IED has disbelieved Doug many times in the past, this may well be poetic justice), but there is no doubt in IED's mind that Doug's original reference to the "Nice to Swallow" nonsense was that "Kate once said" this. It is true that Doug deserves some credit for finding the "quote". However, IED has now followed suit and checked the same source himself. What did he discover? Well, mainly that, contrary to Doug's say-so, the magazine in question is typically _loaded_ with errors of English! (This should not come as a surprise to readers of Doug's own postings.) It is therefore not the _least_bit_ improbable that a similar error was made by the editors of the magazine in this case. More likely still is that the interviewer simply misheard Kate saying "_Night_of_the_Swallow_" and wrote it out as "_Nice_to_Swallow_". Since the editing on that rag was not very good, and the chances in any event of anyone on the editorial staff noticing that a Bush title had been misrepresented were slim, it is _extremely_ likely on the face of it that the words were simply one of many errors that slipped through. But we have far more than that to support that hypothesis! IED is _sick_and_tired_ of idiotic claims to the effect that such a "joke" is "in character" with other remarks Kate Bush has made. IT IS NOT! No one has ever implied, Doug and Jon, that Kate is a prude. Obviously, she is not! The point is not whether she is afraid of using so-called "censorable language" or sexual imagery. The point is whether she would make a crude, vulgar, _self_-denigrating_ joke of her _own_serious_ work! And the answer is, so far as we can tell from the millions of words on file from her to date, _NO_SHE_WOULDN'T_. She _never_has_! Douglas and Jon, however, have already long since shown to this group that their own crude and vulgar sense of humour renders them utterly incapable of distinguishing a straightforward, descriptive use of language (as in "Because you can see my tits") from a powerfully poetic, imagistic use of language (as in "The sheets are soaked by your tiny fish") from a crude, gratuitous and utterly uncharacteristic bathroom joke like "Nice to Swallow". Thankfully, most of the rest of Love-Hounds _can_ see the differences, so with luck we can go on to another subject now. Vickie of K.C., MO wanted IED to forward her thanks to all the Love-Hounds (more than 35 of you at last count) who called her Kate Bush telephone-message number over the last couple of days. She wants IED to re-iterate, however--even stress--that all callers are urged to leave a comment or two after the message ends (after the beep), and even if they don't want to leave their names, could they say where they are calling from? Thanks. The telephone number, again, is (816) 561-0846. It contains a special experience for all those who are still waiting for Kate's new album. Enjoy! -- Andrew Marvick