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From: pkh%computer-science.nottingham.ac.uk@NSS.CS.UCL.AC.UK
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 88 11:36:19 BST
Subject: Strangeways (was Re: There Goes A Tenner lyrics)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Organization: Computer Science, Nottingham Univ., UK.
Reply-To: pkh <@NSS.CS.UCL.AC.UK:pkh@computer-science.nottingham.ac.uk>
Sender: pkh%computer-science.nottingham.ac.uk@NSS.CS.UCL.AC.UK
To this I say "pah!", explaination afterwards: > It could very well be Strangeways. However, Strangeways is not a > prison. > Stop me if you think that you've heard this one before, but > Strangeways, Here We Come - The Smiths recent CD is named after the > local Mental Institution, I believe in Manchester. > Ken Crissey whuts!0707dab@Bell Laboratories Let's clear this up once and for all. I was born and bred in Manchester, living there for 21 years, and can definitely tell you that Strangeways is NOT a mental institution (where did anyone get that idea from anyway?). It is one of Her Majesty's prisons (HMP Strangeways in fact) which was built in the late 19th Century. It is very overcrowded and conditions are disgusting by most accounts. It is not a remand home for youngsters but a run-of-the-mill prison for male offenders. It happens to be only a mile out of Manchester (on the north side - Bury New Road) and is positioned adjacent to the world(?) famous Boddington's Brewery. If you've never had a pint of Boddie's your life hasn't been worth living! Strangeways is also known locally by the quaint name of "Strangeways Motel". For those who do not know by now, Morrisey (of a little known group called the Smiths :-) come's from Manchester, in fact from Whalley Range which is about 2-3 miles south of the City. I think he would have know that Strangeways is an ordinary prison, if not he must have been living under a stone for the last 20-odd years of his life. BTW, the local mental institution for the Manchester area is Prestwich Hospital (which is nearer Bury actually). Thus any phrase to do with Prestwich meant that the poor person was off to the local mental home. I thought that this might clear up the point once and for all. +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | pkh%cs.nott.ac.uk@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk | Kevin Hopkins, | | or ..!mcvax!ukc!nott-cs!pkh | Department of Computer Science, | | or in the UK: pkh@uk.ac.nott.cs | University of Nottingham, Nottingham,| | CHAT-LINE: +44 602 484848 x 3815 | ENGLAND, NG7 2RD | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+