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From: Raven Tompkins <rtompkin@indiana.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 10:16:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: The never-ending Kate/Tori debate
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Old-Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 12:41:34 -0500
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
References: <3.0.1.32.19970512202106.00718810@bart.nl> <19970514.190608.14614.0.heisjohn@juno.com>
heisjohn@juno.com wrote: > > >And then there's the very sensible reaction of "S.Irani-lewis" > ><MDA95SI@sheffield.ac.uk>: > >> > >>Marketing rarely has anything to do with the artist......you > >>shouldn't hold the marketing managers limited imagination against > >>her.......its fairly obvious she has one! :-) > > > >I rest my case. > > An interesting observation -- but unfortunately, it's a little naive. > Like it or not, marketing in the music business is *EVERYTHING*. Back in > the late 60's, Jerry Kasenetz and Jeff Katz (Super K Productions) scored > an impressive string of top selling singles by the likes of 1910 Fruitgum > Company, Ohio Express and Crazy Elephant. But the funny thing is -- none > of these groups actually existed! Over the years, Super K employed > hundreds of very talented songwriters and session musicians who wrote and > played in groups that lived only as (flawlessly executed) marketing > concepts!! > > So now we know that great marketing ALONE can produce top-selling > material. Can you think of an example where a "great" song went to the > top of the charts with NO marketing?? > > > John Since when does whether or not a song goes to the top of the charts have anything to do with with whether or not it's a "good" song? I can only think of a handful of songs that made anyone charts in the last few years that I tbought were any good. I don't agree at all that marketing is everything. I'm sure if Kate Bush were marketed exactly the same way that Alanis Morisette was the results would be different. For the most part, mass marketed chart topping songs have a sort of lowest common denominator appeal. They sound alot like most everything else on the radio, they're lyrically simplistic and they don't challenge the listener. It's music for the masses. Kinda like the way that McDonalds has undoubtably sold more coffee than your favorite neightborhood coffee shop, but very few of would say that McDonalds coffee is better. It's simply more accessible. I'd bet a bunch of money that no matter how you wanted to market Ani DiFranco, she'll never make a top 40 chart. Raven