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From: Robb McCaffree <nsrjm@nursepo.medctr.ucla.edu>
Date: 28 Jan 1996 05:33:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Wait for Kate
To: rec-music-gaffa@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
References: <199601271706.MAA21838@remus.rutgers.edu>
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woj@remus.rutgers.edu (32 flavors and then some) wrote: > > Robb McCaffree <nsrjm@nursepo.medctr.ucla.edu> sez: > > >THANKYOU! This is a point I've made numerous times on rec.music.tori- > >amos, and no one seems to 'get it.' I like Tori...I think she's very > >talented and can see that she's had many influences. But why can't she > >simply list Kate right along with Led Zeppelin and the rest? > > let me get this straight. you think KaTe was an influence on tori, > therefore this must be true and tori has to own up to it? i'm not sure > i follow this logic. > > woj No. I 'think' nothing of the sort. Based on the following: Kate Tori appears in box on U.S. appears in box on cover release of TKI of LE holds sword above head holds sword above head in sexy, revealing outfit in sexy, revealing outfit for U.S. EP (1982) for YKTR (extremely similar) lays in white dress, hair lays in white dress, hair sprawled around her in spawled around her in booklet start of video for 'Wow' of UTP (extremely similar) the breathing on 'TD' the breathing on 'Precious Things' The bridge on 'Watching The bridge on 'Crucify You Without Me' (extremely similar) The bridge on 'TWW' The bridge on 'SATY' the early. very cultivated The current image of...well, image of a sexy piano-playing you know :-) 'high priestess' of rock And also Tori's vocals on 'Professional Widow,' 'Hey Jupiter,' CALS (b'vocals), and the juxtaposition of various musical styles and times on much of BfP (especially CALS and 'Mr. Zebra'), I have no doubt that she is at least familiar with Kate's material. Tori not only denies familiarity with Kate's stuff, she has insulted her outright ("I want to tell her to stop screaming...there's no mouse"). It's not that she 'has to own up to it,' but then again, why wouldn't she? Less obvious influences appear constantly in Tori interviews. I guess it's not a big deal, if you don't see all the above connections. To me, some are so obvious, they border on copying (which is a compliment if it's documented as such). But then again, I'm hardly the first person -- or critic, even -- to notice this. Robb