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From: Wieland Willker <willker@chemie.uni-bremen.de>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:01:43 -0100
Subject: A new (old) volley into the Gaffa wars
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Subject: Lovehounds -the history, Gaffa -the TRUTH: 2 theories Repost from the archive: ------------------ THEORY 1: ------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1991 12:01:32 -0700 From: aurs01!aurxc3!whitcomb@mcnc.org (Jonathan Whitcomb) Subject: A little history... >1. Is this group JUST for Kate? It appears to be totally obsessed with her. Actually when this group was founded 72 years ago in Sri Lanka it was originally intended for afficianados of hunting dogs and other canines pressed into manual labor. The orignal name of the group was "Amos Canis Woofis", and was written on dried leaves and spread from town to town by passing merchants. Occasionally, some of the written passages were so controversial that readers would burn the leaves in anger, leading to the modern term "flaming". Many found that inhaling the smoke of the burning leaves caused a hallucanatory effect, and thus smoking leaves became more popular than reading them in some areas. Traffic on the group was light, but started to pick up in the 60's when some of the free love fringe mistook the title (by then "Hound-Lovers") to imply more intimate relationships between man and his best friend. The name was then changed to "Love-Hounds" to avoid any further confusion. By 1986, the group was an entirely electronic media, and the release of Kate Bush's "Hounds of Love" album brought so much traffic to discuss this album and the artist that the original hard core group of hunting dog fans split off to form another group, the well known and highly read rec.pooches.kill.bad.deer.yeah. Since that time the Kate Bush crowd has dominated the group, although lately it seems that a religious cult based around holy relics created, used, or discarded by the recording artist is gaining favor. >2. Where did the group creators get the word "gaffa" and what does it mean? "Gaffa" (as has been explained ad nauseum in this forum) is another Sri Lankan word referring to the mental state achieved by those smoking too many of the leaves this group was originally printed on. >3. I'm more into the Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance etc. Is this the place for me or should I get lost? As long as you make the occasional kowtow to the Bush crowd and say the appropriate holy words and use lots of initials to refer to albums and song titles, welcome. You may find after a few days reading this group that getting lost was the safer option, however. Of course, we try to be open to new thoughts and ideas, so if you do indeed *want* to get lost, don't feel anyone here is pressuring you to do otherwise. It's just that we don't want everyone to get lost together, because then invariably someone will know where they are and the whole excersize would be pointless. But do what you want. >4. Is Kate on the 4AD label? Just what IS the 4AD label anyway, and who is on it beside the above two groups? Kate is not on the 4AD label. The 4AD label originally started many years before 4 A.D., and was responsible for such works as the Rosetta Stone and the Shroud of Turyn. They continue publishing artifacts by little known or dead societies for the amusement of archeologists and necrophiliacs. Other well known acts include "Thrown Mooses", "Clone of Xerox" and "The Picked Seeds". >Thanks for any answers! We are here to inform and entertain (as well as occasionally inflame and irritate). >Ben Discoe, radical ecologist, computer scientist, geometer, amigoid Jonathan Whitcomb, racial egotist, commuter psychic, geometry, ohmygod ---------------- THEORY 2: ---------------- Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1991 05:12:53 -0800 From: MasterMind <VNOZICK@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU> Subject: Proof that she really is! The first book of KaTe commonly called The KreaTion: In the beginning KaTe kreated the big sky and the earth. ("Hello, earth!") The earth was without form and void, and there was no deeper understanding to be found; and the Spirit of KaTe was moving under the ice. And KaTe said, "Let there be music"; and there was music. And KaTe saw that the music was good; and KaTe separated the bailaikas from the uiellian pipes. KaTe called the music Gaffa, and the darkness she called Baghdad. And there was a night of the swallow and there was the morning fog. And KaTe said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the love-hounds, and let it separate the love from the anger." And KaTe made the firmament and separated the love which was under the ivy from the anger which was under the leaves and the trees. And it was so. And KaTe called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. And KaTe said, "Let the seven waves under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the homeground appear." And it was so. KaTe called the dry land a "sensual world", and the waves that were gathered together she called snow. And KaTe saw that it was good. And KaTe said, "Let put forth musical instruments, keyboards yielding notes, and bulgarian trios bearing background vocals in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the world." And it was so. And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. And KaTe said, "Let there be little lights shining in the firmament of the heavens to separate the warm from the soothing; and let them be for shivers and for quivers and for moans and sighs, and let them be reactions in the hearts of the believers to give light upon the earth." And it was so. And KaTe made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; she made her rare flowers also. And KaTe set them in the firmament of the records to give light upon the earth, to rule over the mind and the soul, and to separate the light from the darkness. And KaTe saw that it was good. And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. And KaTe said, "Let the waves bring forth swarms of live tours, and let dances pass through the air across the front of the stage." So KaTe kreated the great musical performances and every poem that accompanies, with which the images flew, according to their kinds, and every interpretation according to its kind. And KaTe saw that it was good. And KaTe blessed them, saying "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the amphitheaters in the countries, and let concerts multiply on the earth." And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day. And KaTe said, "Let the earth bring forth videos according to their kinds: rain-makers and dunce caps and chain mail bikinis according to their kinds." And it was so. And KaTe made the demons of the experiments according to their kinds and the celtic images according to their kinds, and everything that breathes within the womb according to its kind. And KaTe saw that it was good. Then KaTe said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the terminals of the network, and over the flame wars, and over the explanations of 'gaffa', and over the inaudible lyrics in the background, and over every note that creeps upon the song." So KaTe kreated love-hounds in her own image, in the image of KaTe she kreated them; lurker and regular she kreated them. And KaTe blessed them, and KaTe said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the newsgroups." And KaTe said, "Behold, I have given you every song yielding beauty which is upon the face of all the earth, and every video with seed in its fruit." And it was so. And KaTe saw everything that she had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day. Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day KaTe finished her work which she had done, and she rested for four years from all her work which she had done. So KaTe blessed the long waits and hallowed it, because on it KaTe rested from all her work which she had done in kreation. (Valerie Nozick) ------END-OF-QUOTES----------- So, make up your minds! What is the truth? I think, only |>oug or Stev0 can give further details. Best wishes Wieland