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From: chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu (chris williams)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 94 02:30 CST
Subject: Re: This 'n' That
To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
In-Reply-To: <3d6ogf$8j0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Organization: FCIA Univ. of Chicago
References: <9412200148.AA13766@bugs.TQS.COM>
In article <3d6ogf$8j0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> you write: >In article <9412200148.AA13766@bugs.TQS.COM>, >Steve Berlin <steve.b@TQS.COM> wrote: > >(lots of stuff snipped for length) >>That being said, Y should I love U is utter garbage. In terms of >>lyrics, it's actually quite clever (especially that little part at >>the end), but musically, it's mid-80's MOR at it's worst. But what >>REALLY kills the song is: Where is Kate? Why does this Lionel >>Richie soundalike get all the good parts? If it were a duet with >>The Self Obsessed Wanker Formerly Known As Prince, it MIGHT have worked, >>since TSOWFKAP would have put some REAL soul into the song. If it >>were Kate just singing herself, it would have DEFINATELY worked. >>But it's not, so it doesn't. > >Oy, Steve! I guess I'm just a sucker for that mid-80's MOR sound, but I *love* >Y Should I Love U? and it's one of my favorite songs on the last album. But >there you go...there are as many different kinds of Kate fans as there are >people, eh? :-) It's not a generic "mid-80's MOR" sound, but a specific tribute to one of Kate's favorite bands, Steely Dan. The chorus is (to my ears) a lift from Steely Dan's song "Peg." She's said many nice things about this song, and I think she got Lenny Henry to specifically try for that Donald Fagen/Michael McDonald vocal tone. I guess I enjoy hearing a comedian imitate Steely Dan singing Prince-ish lyrics in a Kate Bush song. The unlikeliness of it all is quite amusing. >4) Don't Give Up - was this ever released as a single in the U.S.? > >I'm not sure, but I heard it a lot and there was a video that got played >constantly for a while. Actually there were two videos, and both of them are included on the Peter Gabrial video collection "CV." The first, directed by the completely brillant team of Godley and Creme. It features a single shot of Peter and Kate hugging each other. The camera zooms in on their faces and then pulls back. The transitions from Kate's face to Peter's are done by rotating the platform they are standing on. Well, Peter is standing on the platform; Kate is standing on a well-hidden box on the platform. It is amazingly simple and wonderful. The record weasles, with the collective attention span of a hummingbird on methedrene, didn't get it and ordered a second video from Matt Maherne (or a diciple of his) that looks like outtakes from Fleetwod Mac's "Gypsy." When Peter hosted 120 Minutes, he played this video and commented about having to stand around hugging Kate for hours; "Sometimes one has to suffer for one's art." Said with a very satisfied smirk. Chris Williams of Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu (his) vickie@njin.rutgers.edu (hers) (Not home yet. Soon.)