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From: ed@das.llnl.gov (Edward Suranyi)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 90 13:06:37 PDT
Subject: More Madonna vs. Kate from .misc
Some people have been complaining about my transcriptions of this stuff. But, on the other hand, judging from the number of responses people seem to be interested. I realize that people who have access to the newsgroups can just read rec.music.misc for themselves. However, there are many subscribers to the mailing list who can't read the newsgroups. I thought they might be interested. If there's a large outcry against my posting this stuff, I'll stop. Article 50058 of rec.music.misc: Path: lll-winken!uunet!sco!martyst From: martyst@sco.COM (Ne'er-do-well of the Gods) Newsgroups: rec.music.misc Subject: Ye Old Kate Bush/Madonna Debate Summary: It's a tag-team grudge match! Message-ID: <8665@scorn.sco.COM> Date: 2 Aug 90 18:00:47 GMT References: <JP5$A4^@rpi.edu> <65592@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <715$R#_@rpi.edu> <65663@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Sender: news@sco.COM Reply-To: martyst@sco.COM (Ne'er-do-well of the Gods) Organization: Some Encoded Evening Lines: 29 I'll take a stab at this. (For those of you just tuning in, the relative merits of Madonna and Kate Bush are being hashed out.) For my money, Kate has to be considered the greater "artist." Does that mean that Madonna's a no-talent, money-grubber? Nope. Just that her approach is different, owing to her different intent. I call Bush more of an artist because her music comes mostly from a personal vision, leavened in part by a knowledge of, and liking for, popular sounds. I'd reverse the equation for Material Girl. I think first she aims at popularity, and then fits in her own outlook and preferences. Both ultimately have a positive, life-affirming message. Madonna's is more often very earthy, Kate's is more often ethereal, yet either isn't afraid to venture into the other mode of expression. Fortunately, there's room enough in the world for a wide spectrum of recording artists. A steady diet of either style/approach would get mighty boring after a while. Let's Rock! Marty -- Your pal, Marty Stevens + martyst@sco.COM + ...!{uunet,ucscc}!sco!martyst "But then we've been through this before, and I seem to be alone with my sick pervy views on this subject." --Colm Mulcahy (colm@mathcs.emory.edu) Article 50068 of rec.music.misc: Path: lll-winken!sun-barr!apple!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!ckk+ From: ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chris Koenigsberg) Newsgroups: rec.music.misc Subject: Re: Ye Old Kate Bush/Madonna Debate Message-ID: <gaiEl5u00jWK00hDsi@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: 3 Aug 90 05:31:49 GMT References: <JP5$A4^@rpi.edu> <65592@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <715$R#_@rpi.edu> <65663@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, <8665@scorn.sco.COM> Organization: Andrew Systems Admin, Computing Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 5 In-Reply-To: <8665@scorn.sco.COM> How can anyone claim to compare a fringe Disco artist like Kaitie Bush to someone who is more varied in their talent, like Madonna Ciccone who is also a well-known film actress and photographic model in addition to having such a sultry voice and figure? Article 50073 of rec.music.misc: Path: lll-winken!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!nrc From: nrc@cbnews.att.com (N. Richard Caldwell) Newsgroups: rec.music.misc Subject: Re: MADONNA on MTV [all day] Wed, Aug. 1 Message-ID: <1990Aug1.143827.4201@cbnews.att.com> Date: 1 Aug 90 14:38:27 GMT References: <65663@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Organization: AT&T Network Systems - Columbus, Ohio Lines: 69