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From: Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU
Date: 11 Jul 90 12:59:08 GMT
Subject: Idle Speculation and Other Nonsense
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
l 90 18:43:23 GMT Sender: Love-Hounds-request@gaffa.MIT.EDU Reply-To: Love-Hounds@gaffa.MIT.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 191 Approved: love-hounds@eddie.mit.edu Really-From: nrc@cbema.att.com (Neal R Caldwell, Ii) Space zombies broke into my office and forced me to type: >>I believe that the increasing involvement of Del Palmer in Kate's work >>did not have a positive affect on _The Sensual World_. Perhaps even the >>contrary. Several Love Hounds have asked me to clarify myself and since I don't see anyone nearby with ropes or kindling I guess now is a good time. Let's take it a sentence at a time. First I said, "I believe that the increasing involvement of Del Palmer in Kate's work did not have a positive affect on _The Sensual World_." I started out with that to sort of ease into the subject because I don't think that there can really be any question about it. _The Sensual World_ really isn't superior to her other most recent efforts in any way. Not musically as a work of art and certainly not technically as a recording. Therefore, if we can a assume that Kate is at least as capable as ever we must conclude that Del's increased participation did not have a positive effect, i.e. it did not make TSW a better record. Then I ventured a bit further. "Perhaps even the contrary," I wrote. I see some of you gathering up combustables and I don't think that you're upset about my poor sentence structure. After having lived with TSW for some time and coming to love it dearly I must still conclude that it is not as great a work as either _The Dreaming_ or _Hounds of Love_. Unfortunately someone neglected to invite me to the recording sessions so all I can do speculate on the reasons. If you're not the sort who cares to engage in idle speculation perhaps you should skip a bit. First there's the sound. The longer I live with TSW the more the assorted audio flotsam and jetsam that were allowed to creep into the album annoy me. There has been enough talk here about the noise level on TSW that I'd say that many, and perhaps most, Love Hounds agree that the album is a big disappointment in this respect. Interestingly enough High Fidelity rated TSW's recording as 'excellent' which is probably just shy of their best rating. Another magazine had scathing criticism for the record's sound quality. (Could someone mail this to me or repost it? Yes, I'm aware that this review had more than its share of inaccuracies but I think it's basic premise was correct and I'd like to read it again now that I'm past the denial stage.) So if TSW is a less than ideal recording who gets the blame? Ultimately Kate does because she's responsible for the finished product but more specifically Del is credited with "Recording" the bulk of the album. Note that the credit is for "recording" not "engineering" and to me that just about sums it up. Andy Marvick counters that Nigel Kennedy had high praise for Del's engineering ability. It's does seem that Del is capable of capturing some superb sounds on tape and Kennedy's parts on TSW are a good example of this. If you take only the recording of Kennedy's part of the album I can see why Kennedy would have praised Del. Unfortunately the sound quality of the rest of the album simply doesn't measure up. Kennedy's praise is based on one of the high points of a rather spotty recording. Then there's the music itself. Perhaps I'm just not in touch with Kate's "most female album" but something is missing. Most of it is intangible. The only thing that I'm sure of is the percussion -- it simply doesn't compare to that of _The Dreaming_ or _Hounds of Love_. _Heads We're Dancing_ almost makes it and _Rocket's Tale_ tries with shear energy but everything else falls well short. Why? Perhaps this excerpt from Kate Bush Club newsletter about the making of _The Sensual World_ provides a clue... | "I'm using the Fairlight again, and a DX-7; but a lot of the songs |have been written on piano initially, and it does definitely give |the songs a different flavour from those written on Fairlight. A |lot of rhythms are arranged by Del, and we tend to keep bits and |replace a lot with real drums, but still keeping his "feel". Keeping _his_ feel? Certainly Del has been programming the drum machines for a long time but in the past it seemed that great pains were taken to capture _her_ feel. Now we hear talk of Del arranging the rhythms with an effort being made to keep his feel. Gregory Bossert wonders whether I'm saying that TSW is a KT album "watered down by Del and others." Yes and no. Kate said this about the making of _Hounds of Love_... | We then got into a pattern of where I would work with just Del |for two or three days a week, and Haydn would work the rest of |the week compiling and bouncing the ideas we'd worked on in the |earlier part of the week. This worked very well, as I was uninhibited |at trying out the ideas with Del, and Haydn could come in |objectively to them. Quite often I was very nicely surprised when |things I felt might be a little too obvious, perhaps, were nicely |disguised. It is impossible to remain totally objective, especially |when the ideas need to be subtle--you mustn't make them too subtle |or no one will hear them! It strikes me that TSW is very much the sort of album that might come about from not having someone to provide feedback who could view the work more objectively. Having someone there in this capacity doesn't "water down" Kate's work, it provides an point of reference where Kate can see how a track is coming together through the eyes of someone who hasn't been listening to the same piece of tape for a week. The lack of this sort of objective feedback may have made TSW an album where some of the ideas have become entirely too subtle. Unfortunately, Del can no longer provide that objective feedback himself because he is now more of a collaborator in the process than an assistant. |"Del and I argue a great deal - over songs. But we consider it healthy. |Who wins? Normally, I do. I'm not the shy, retiring, fragile butterfly |creature you sometimes read about. I'm tough as nails." _Normally_ Kate wins. How often is normally? How many decisions on this album didn't go her way? More importantly how many of those decisions didn't go her way as much because of her relationship with Del as because of her respect of his judgement? Certainly there's plenty of reason to believe that she is indeed "tough as nails" when it comes to important issues in her music but how effectively can she maintain that position when her opposition is a loved one who is in all probability more important to her than her music? As I said, it's all speculation and possibly a waste of breath but I think it's interesting to attempt to puzzle out the forces that are shaping Kate's work. Maybe Del pushed for an album full of songs like _Reaching Out_ or maybe he hated that track, maybe the uninspired percussion was his doing or maybe Kate wanted it that way. In either case Del is clearly taking a greater role in Kate's music - something worth considering as we observe the changes in her work. ---- Andy was surprised at my remark that MTV Unplugged would have provided an excellent venue for a live Kate performance. I'm not sure why that would be such a surprise. Unplugged has seen some excellent performances from a wide variety of acts. I suggested it as a likely venue because it would have given Kate the opportunity to perform without feeling any need to reproduce her complex album tracks. A few simple tracks performed on piano with minimal accompaniment would provided enough material for the show. ---- Of course, we all know that _Hammer_Horror_ is about an actor whose friend dies as he is preparing for a role that he has wanted all his life and this actor's feelings of guilt at taking over the role. Right? Well how's this for more idle speculation -- what if the actor actually killed his friend to take the role from him? It certainly does make for some stunning imagery and lends a whole new feeling to the song. "You stood in the bell tower/But now you're gone" Pushed perhaps? Yes, yes Kate has given a very detailed description of the idea behind _Hammer Horror_ and that's not in there. I'm not proposing that this idea is "right", just interesting. ---- Congratulations to Chris and Vickie on their successful transplant to the "midwest". I'm glad to hear that you're getting settled so quickly. It was great to hear about your visit with Victoria Williams. So few of us ever get to meet, let alone befriend, any of the people that we so deeply admire. I would say that you're terribly lucky but in fact it's pretty clear that you've earned it with your tireless devotion to promoting good music. ---- Some of our friends from accross the pond wondered about the possibility of getting a copy of C'n'V's tapes. As Vickie mentioned the tapes won't do you much good unless you have NTSC to PAL conversion capability. Now if you do have that capability we have to wonder if you also have PAL to NTSC conversion capability...and if you do I have wonder if perhaps a trade for the Comic Strip episodes featuring Kate or her music could be arranged... ---- I see that there were a few new posters out there. Welcome to you all. With the possible exception of the roasting of an occaisional heretic we have a pretty good time here in Love-Hounds (aka rec.music.gaffa). Now if you'll excuse me, I have to change into my nomex long-johns. ---- "Don't drive too slowly." Richard Caldwell AT&T Network Systems att!cbnews!nrc nrc@cbnews.att.com