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From: newsmgr@debet.nhh.no
Date: 24 Mar 90 13:17:00 MET
Subject: Mailbag
Relay-Version: VMS News - V5.9C 19/12/89 VAX/VMS V5.2; site debet.nhh.no Path: debet!barsoom!nuug!sunic!mcsun!uunet!snorkelwacker!mit-eddie!OAC.UCLA.EDU!IED0DXM@OAC.UCLA.EDU Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Mailbag Message-ID: <9003232328.AA02358@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> From: IED0DXM@OAC.UCLA.EDU Date: 23 Mar 90 23:24:00 GMT Sender: daemon@eddie.mit.edu (Mr Background) Organization: Love-Hounds Anonymous Approved: nessus@eddie.mit.edu Lines: 249 To: Love-Hounds From: Andrew Marvick (IED) Subject: Mailbag Susan requests: >As for other things, in case my mailer is bouncing, I'll post this: >anyone who has the French lyrics to "Un Baiser D'Enfant" please send >them to me. I'm driving people crazy by playing this so much-- I >really like it. So now I sit and play the English and French versions >over and over. Anybody know why she recorded it in French after >_Never For Ever_ was released with the English version? Just >curious... There was also another request for this song's lyrics. Here, for completeness' sake, then, are the French and English lyrics of both _Un_Baiser_d'enfant_ and _Ne_T'enfuis_pas_. Enjoy. The Infant Kiss (Un Baiser d'enfant) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I say good night-night. Je dis bonne nuit-nuit. I tuck him in tight. Je le borde dans le lit. But things are not right. Mais ca ne va pas. What is this? An infant kiss Qu'est-ce que c'est? Un baiser. That sends my body tingling? Ca me fait fremir. I've never fallen for Je n'ai jamais avant A little boy before. Aimee un enfant No control. Sans controle. Just a kid and just at school. Il n'est qu'un jeune, et a l'ecole. Back home they'd call me dirty. Chez nous ils n'aimeront pas. His little hand is on my heart. Sa petite main joue dans mon coeur, He's got me where it hurts me. Juste la ou ca fait mal. Knock, knock. Who's there in Toc-toc. Qui est dans ce bebe? this baby? You know how to work me. Tu sais bien y faire. All my barriers are going. Toutes les barrieres tombent. It's starting to show. Ca va se voir. Let go. Let go. Let go. Ca se voit. Ca se voit. Ca se voit. I cannot sit and let Je ne peux laisser faire Something happen I'll regret. Je le regretterais. Ooh, he scares me! Ouh, il m'effraie!. There's a man behind those eyes. Il y a un homme la dans les yeux. I catch him when I'm bending. Je le vois en me penchant. Ooh, how he frightens me Ouh, il me fait peur When they whisper privately. Quand ils chuchotent entre eux. ("Poor, stupid girl!")* Windy-wailey blows me. Le vent souffle. Words of caress on their lips Sur leurs levres des caresses That speak of adult love. Qui parlent de l'amour. I want to smack but I hold back. Je veux frapper, je me retiens. I only want to touch. Je veux juste toucher. But I must stay and find a way Je dois rester et arreter To stop before it gets too much! Tout ca avant qu'il soit trop tard! All my barriers are going. Toutes les barrieres tombent. It's starting to show. Ca va ce voir. Let go. Let go. Let go. Ca se voit. Ca se voit. Ca se voit, (Don't let go!) L'amour.** <*--"Poor, stupid girl!": This line is omitted from the French-language version.> <**--"L"amour.": This last word ("love") is found only in the French version.> Ne T'enfuis pas (Don't Fly Away) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Je viens I am coming Comme un chat Like a cat Par la nuit si noire. Through the night so black. Tu attends, You are waiting, Et je tombe And I fall Dans tes ailes blanches, la-la-la... Into your white wings, la-la-la... Et je vole, And I fly, Et je coule And I sink Comme une plume. Like a feather. Si les grands yeux de mon Dieu If the great eyes of my God Ne me gardaient pas, Were not watching (over) me,* Je te volerais I would steal you away. Ne t'enfuis pas! Don't fly away! Tu as des ailes, You have wings, Le pouvoir de me quitter. The power to leave me. Tu es tombe You fell Du ciel comme un ange, la-la-la From the sky like an angel, la-la-la Et j'ai peur And I'm afraid Que le ciel That the sky Te reprenne. Will take you back. Si les grands yeux de mon Dieu If the great eyes of my God Ne me gardaient pas, Weren't watching (over) me,* Je te volerais. I would steal you away. Je viens I am coming Comme un chat Like a cat Par la nuit si noire. Through the night so black. Je t'en prie, I beg you, Je t'en prie, I beg you, Je t'en prie, I beg you, Je t'en prie, I beg you, Je t'en prie, I beg you, Je t'en prie-- I beg you-- Ne t'enfuis Don't fly Pas! Away! <*--"Ne me gardaient pas": A kind of pun. Literally it means "If the eyes of God weren't _keeping_ me," but the verb "garder", to keep, sounds a lot like a slang contraction of the verb "regarder", to watch. Hence the attempt at a parallel pun in the English translation (to watch/to watch over). >My question is does anyone actually HEAR the "...Irgendwo in der Tiefe" part? >I hear something completely different. I would like to know if Yes, IED hears it clearly. Dick writes: >One of the things I saw that I'm upset I didn't pick up was an >album of TKI with an alternate picture of Kate on the cover. It's >a head to just below the shoulders shot of her with some sort of >"muscle" shirt on. It was only $5.00, but I had already spent over >$100 the day before... It was either the Japanese import or the Uruguayan edition (as IED recalls). Either way, $5 is a good deal. The picture is the infamous "pink leotard" shot which was plastered on every bus and hoarding in England early in 1978, causing many to pigeonhole Kate as a sex object rather than a serious musician (it having then been--as it is now--unreasonably difficult for a female artist to be accepted as both simultaneously). >On another note: $75 for a pic disk of Kate? Ouch! I think one >could do better than that, but I don't know for sure... Lower prices can be found, but $75 is at the low end of the scale--IED has seen copies go (quickly) for upwards of $150, at West Hollywood import shops. >My question is this: Who is Keef? As someone who seems to have >directed nearly all of KT's pre-HOL vids, I'm surprised I haven't >seen more about (place pronoun here) on the net. Is this a >pseudonym for KT? Keef is the nickname and professional name (his company is called Keefco) of Keith MacMillan, one of the very first directors of promotional pop-music videos. Kate dropped him after the first two videos for _The_Dreaming_, and hasn't looked back since, though she says she still thinks very highly of Keef, and is friends with him. >did say that the list price-- whatever list he may mean, I don't >know-- was $90. As for whether it's original, maybe there's someone The "list price" is nonsense. There were two editions of the picture disk LP of _The_Kick_Inside_. The first, "original", edition came out in 1979, and originally retailed in England for about 8 Pounds. IED bought one of those through mail order at the time, and paid about $20 postpaid. The second, very slightly altered, pressing of the pic-disk came out about two years later or so, and it was a larger edition. It was selling in L.A. shops in 1982-3, new, for as little as $8.49. Since production of the second edition ended in 1982-3, the price of both the first and the second editions has risen steadily and steeply. Although some distinction is sometimes made between the two editions and their respective prices, this is not always the case, since many dealers are not aware that there were two different editions. The first edition bears an _circular_ brownish- grey sticker on the front, and there is a secret message scratched into the run-out groove which says, "Remember yourself". The second edition has an _oval-shaped_ brown or grey sticker on the front and no run-out-groove message. Nowadays either disk can fetch at least $65.00, and some dealers routinely manage to get more than $125 for them. >This is based on a story called "Lucy Wan" but I don't remember any >details about it. Seems like it was a Chinese folk tale or something. > >Vickie (one of Vickie'n'Chris) As far as IED is aware, Vickie, there's no Chinese connection at all. "Lucy (more commonly Lizzie) Wan" is an 18th-century English/Irish folk ballad, best known as _The_Ballad_of_Lizzie_Wan_. The song's lyrics tell of the tragedy of Lizzie Wan, who falls in love with her brother and, becoming pregnant, kills herself. Kate's original lyrics to _her_ song _The_Kick_Inside_ make it clear that her own story refers to a new set of characters--brother and sister--who face a similar crisis. In the version heard on the album _The_Kick_Inside_, however, the explicit reference to the early folksong has been replaced, making the song's references much harder to identify and understand. Nick writes: >Given you had to make up a single LP of _Your Whole Story_, what KT >tracks would you chose? Fun question. _IED's_Whole_Story_ would begin at the very beginning, with one of Kate's earliest compositions, a song she wrote when no more than fourteen years old, called _Something_ Like_a_Song_. Other early songs IED would include: _Carmilla_, _Playing_Canasta_in_Cold_Rooms_ and _Ferry_Me_Over_(_the_Music,_Dali_). Then _Wuthering_Heights_ (original version), _In_Search_of_Peter_Pan_, _The_Empty_Bullring_, _Warm_and_Soothing_, _Breathing_, _Army_Dreamers_ (the non-fadeout mix), _Sat_In_Your_Lap_ (a super-extended new remix using the rhythm-only tracks heard briefly on the BBC TV programme _Looking_Good,_Feeling_Fit_), _Get_Out_of_My_House_, _Lord_of_the_ _Reedy_River_ (though not a Kate Bush song, IED is convinced that her cover is one of the greatest recordings of the twentieth century, and as such _must_ be included), _Ne_T'enfuis_pas_ (first mix), _Under_the_ _Ivy_, the first three tracks from _The_Ninth_Wave_ (_And_Dream_of_ _Sheep_, _Under_Ice_ and _Waking_the_Witch_), and _Never_Be_Mine_. All eighteen tracks would barely fit on one CD. There has been some flippant criticism of Del Palmer's engineering capabilities, and IED would like to object. No less qualified a critic than the violinist Nigel Kennedy very recently praised Del specifically as a truly great engineer, and said that Del obtained _the_very_best_ sound from Kennedy's violin that he had ever heard on tape, ever. Since IED also thinks that the complaints about _The_Sensual_World_'s engineering are utterly belied by the sound--which, at least on IED's Sony 507ESD player, is _extremely_ brilliant and stunning--he recommends that those who have been so quick to cast aspersions on Del's expertise at recording sound spend a bit more time learning how to _hear_ sound first. Richard Caldwell writes: >Andy, I'm still looking for your copy of the lyrics... Does this mean you never received IED's huge file containing all of Kate's lyrics to date, Richard? This is surprising and frustrating news, since it took IED some time to break up the file and send it to you, and he thought that you had acknowledged receipt of it at the time. No? Please let IED know if you still need the lyrics. You're right: it is "da-ba-da-ba", not "doo-ba-doo-ba". -- Andrew Marvick