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From: datta@vacs.uwp.wisc.edu (David Datta)
Date: 21 Feb 90 06:43:45 GMT
Subject: EM Survey 4 (Part 05 of 19)
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Eclectic Music Survey #4 Results
Survey Posting February 1990
Part 5 of 19 (Thru Suzanne Ciani)
Kate Bush
"Hounds Of Love" is her best. Her new album "Sensual World" is patchy.
- Iain Smith & Jonathan Habrovitsky
jhabrovi%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Buy _The Dreaming_. Listen to it. Over and over. Loud.
- John M. Relph relph@presto.ig.com
Certainly a dangerous, dangerous topic on the net. I, like many others,
find her music beautiful and classy; some think she's... well, I don't
understand what they think, naturally.
- Kevin Martin sigma@pawl.rpi.edu
Ethereal, sensual, wacky, brainy cult heroine responsible for doggedly
personal recordings heavily laden with emotions we'd often prefer not to
talk about. Very inventive in sonics and production.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Geez, I love the woman, but I think THE SENSUAL WORLD was definitely
*not* one of her best albums. A couple of good tracks but her sound on
there is at once not cohesive enough and too uniform . . . huh. Pick up
HOUNDS OF LOVE instead . . .
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
I've heard a few albums of hers, and I liked what I heard. Her musical
style is fairly unique.
- Frank J. Schima francis@pawl.rpi.edu
Never heard of her (ha ha just kidding). Used to be great - buy The
Dreaming and Hounds Of Love, DO IT NOW - listen to the rest first,
before you decide, however. The Sensual World continues to disappoint.
- Jon Drukman jsd@GAFFA.MIT.EDU
One weird chick.
- Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
The best female art-rock singer to ever grace the planet. Especially
recommended: her 4th album, _The Dreaming_. If you listen to this album
and don't like it, there's obviously no hope for you :-).
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Very sensual (please, nobody call her sensuous -- that's a term reserved
for inanimate objects), very well-developed music. I like the fact that
she sings on a much wider variety of topics than the usual group.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Well the place I saw this survey was rec.music.gaffa.....
- Wingerde van FJ fjvwing@cs.vu.nl
Who else has had at best one top 40 hit yet has a bulletin board section
devoted to her. Love her voice, great range. Will leave it to everyone
else to RAVE
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
Wonderful lyrics, bizarre (good) songs, just don't get fanatical about
her or people will avoid you.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
Butthole Surfers
Any group who starts out a song by screaming "SATAN! SATAN! SATAN!"
can't be too bad...
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
I am dying to hear these guys.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
I have a few records of theirs, which contain an extreme variety of drug
induced tunes, varying from short tripped out guitar bits, to a cover of
Sabbath's "sweetleaf" (redone as "sweatloaf"), to songs with lyrics that
will make anyones head spin, over excellent progressive music. Now, what
really makes the 'Surfers excellent is their live show, which I've seen
twice. They had an ugly, naked dancer (f), intense, but not too fancy
lights, and Gibby, the lead singer, banging a cymbal filled with burning
kerosene! If you aren't sure, but interested, I recomend getting
"Hairway to Steven", a record any diverse minded person would love.
- Paul Harding guru@pnet51.orb.mn.org
I have their album `Hairway to Steven'. A gift from a friend who either
didn't know what he was doing or suddenly wanted to be sadistic towards
me. The lyrics become intelligible when you play the album at 45 rpm.
- Hans Huttel hans%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Buzzcocks
essential early punk pop. this cassette is live cassette-only release.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
David Byrne
"Hey! What's with the big suit!"
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
Done some interesting music with the Talking Heads, but alas never
achieved enough commercial success to where he could afford to buy suits
that fit. :-)
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Good guy, good tunes, go see "True Stories".
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
I found that, though I like his solo stuff, I don't think it has the
same continuity and "zaniness" that Talking Heads had.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Mastermind of the Talking Heads, he's very sly at incorporating
different sounds into his unconventional pop. Could turn out to be an ax
murderer, who knows?
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
The worst thing ever to happen to Phillip Glass.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Very few people know that he is Scottish by birth. I like the stuff he
did with Talking Heads; he is a good singer and songwriter but lately it
seems that he has run out of good ideas.
- Hans Huttel hans%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Cabaret Voltaire
among the founders of industrial music, their early works play with
effects and feedback. the later works depend upon samples & disco beats.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
They seem to have mellowed as the years go on. Their early output is
what would be termed 'industrial' today (was it called that back in the
late seventies?) but they've progressively moved towards dance music as
time goes on. A comment in the last survey said they had split up. Have
they? I picked up what seemed to be a new single just a couple of months
ago. My favourite album is 'Micro-Phonies' - not too dance-oriented but
not too harsh either.
- Alan Crawford awrc%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
originally an industrial noise group, degenerated into disco.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
John Cage
" "
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Interesting, maybe even disturbing, but possibly good.
- Christopher Waldemar Bochna cb2w+@andrew.cmu.edu
try the "Sonatas and Interludes for Prepared Piano", on Tomato records,
composed in the 1930's. Or "HPSCHD" on Nonesuch. Great stuff. He doesn't
care if his music sounds good or not, or even if people listen to it, so
a lot of it is unlistenable.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
_Atlas Eclipticalis_ was written in the library across the hall from
this office (at Van Vleck Observatory, Wesleyan University). Wanta wager
how?
- Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
Randy California
Drummer(?) for Spirit.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
The Call
This one tends to get forgotten, I believe, because it's a "The C*" band
and one normally thinks of The Cure, The Clash, occasionally The Cult.
I think The Call has a definite style but it is broad. My favorites
include "Oklahoma" and "Everywhere I Go" -- the latter is haunting; try
listening to it some dark and stormy night. Progressive, a little bit
hardcore-ish at times.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Camouflage
I have their album _Voices and Images_. My favorite song off it is "The
Great Commandment." Their songs are good (tho I thought TGC was the best
off the album by far), but their pronunciation of English is horrid.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Camper Van Beethoven
californian hippies with a real flair for songwriting. early works used
strange foreign influences and tongue-in-cheek sarcasm. they since have
lost their GREAT violin player (jonathan segel) but continue onward.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Can
a 1970's European space-rock group. Holger Czukay was a member; he also
did an album more recently with Jah Wobble of Public Image Ltd. and the
Edge of U2.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
Experimental German music group of the mid-70s. Don't know too much
about them and have never heard their music. Holger Czukay was in them,
I believe.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Caravan
a fun poppy 1970's progressive rock group. "For Girls Who Grow Plump in
the Night" was a good album.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
Probably the best musical group to come out of Canterbury (and there
were a *lot* of excellent musical groups to come out of there).
Especially recommended: _Caravan and the New Symphonia_. Think of the
Moody Blues's _Days of Future Passed_, but with more of a jazz influence
and not so heavy on the keyboards.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Wendy Carlos
Interesting musician. Lots of synthesizers, worked with Moog in the
early years.
- David Caldwell macs!dfc@bikini.cis.ufl.edu
great stuff. try "Switched on Bach" or the soundtrack to "A Clockwork
Orange".
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
I liked Walter better... Columbia/CBS/Sony/whatever it's called should
get off their duff and reissue the long out-of-print early albums: "The
Well-Tempered Synthesizer", "Walter Carlos' Clockwork Orange" (the
all-Carlos version, NOT the film soundtrack album -- this one's probably
hopelessly mired in legal snarls, from what we've heard about the delays
in releasing the official sdtk.), and "Sonic Seasonings", the last of
which should sell well to the New Age/Ambient crowd.
- Ken Josenhans 13020KRJ@MSU.BitNet
I'm still looking for the release on CD of the solo Clockwork Orange
album. More Carlos and less soundtrack filler.
- Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET
Nee Walter Carlos, pioneer of "serious" use of electronics in music.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Pretty influential dude . . . uhr . . . person. Best stuff's the
CLOCKWORK ORANGE s'track and the recent goofy disc with Weird Al . . .
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
The pioneer of electronic music. She is not only a genius with the
machines she uses, but she is a musical genius as well. Really
understands everything about music and recording. Lately she has been
fiddling with non-traditional tones and scales and has come up with some
interesting stuff. Recommendations: _Switched On Bach_
- Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman)
Larry Carlton
a dull disco guitarist who got severely mutilated in a robbery and
turned Christian. yuck. Some people mistakenly call him a jazz player.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
Carmel
John Carpenter
Hey, Spike Lee may be able to do just about anything but he still hasn't
managed to WRITE AND PERFORM HIS OWN SOUNDTRACK MUSIC! Haaaaa! Love the
music for BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA -- pure cheese.
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
Jim Carroll Band
the author is convinced to make a record. studio band plays while he
recites. typical rock lineup. interesting at times.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Martin Carthy
Cashbow and the Marvelous
2 rappers from NYC. Not the best rap, but their "A real Mutha for Ya" is
always in my mind!
- Hussein Yahia hussein@bora.inria.fr
Castlebeat
Jimmy Castor Bunch
"what we gonna do here is go back" sampled alot. experimental funk.
_birtha butt_ was a big hit.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Eugene Chadbourne
a wild dude who plays electric rake, etc. and makes obnoxious
country-acid noise. Shockabilly was the name of his group for a while.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
Country and Western music will never be the same again....
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
I once ate pizza with him.
- Jon Kincaid dsrekjk@prism.gatech.edu
Loose cannon rock revisionist, has recorded with Camper van Beethoven as
Camper van Chadbourne.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Champagne
I can remember a record they made with Shana Douglas called "My love is
Right". Meaningless.
- Hussein Yahia hussein@bora.inria.fr
Sheila Chandra
a/k/a Monsoon (pretty much everyone on the Monsoon album is on her solo
efforts, right down to the songwriting credits). I like the way she (and
Steve Coe & company) blend New Wave and traditional Indian music; sort
of like Ofra Haza half a continent eastward and five years too early.
Nice to see her stuff on CD now . . . pick up THIRD EYE for "Ever So
Lonely", the best song she's ever worked on.
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
Very young English woman of Indian descent who issued five fine albums
between 1983 and 1985, the first as the band Monsoon. The albums mix
dance pop and Indian motifs in varying proportions. I don't know why
Chandra disappeared; I have hoped that it was to complete her education.
She re-emerged in 1989 with one vocal track on the "Ancient Beatbox"
album. While we're waiting for new material, fans might want to check
out "Qareeb" by Najma, in a similar style but more Indian traditional,
I think.
- Ken Josenhans 13020KRJ@MSU.BitNet
Harry Chapin
a folksinger "Taxi" was his big hit. He died in a car accident.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
A one hit wonder in my book. 'Cats in the Cradle' was an excellent song,
but I can't name another.
- Frank J. Schima francis@pawl.rpi.edu
Good music, not quite rock-n-roll, but still good.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
I heard "Cat's in the Cradle" last night. His songs still hold up. He is
missed.
- rmiller@sbcs.sunysb.edu
The man who put his money where his mouth was (World Hunger) long before
it was fashionable to support Whatever-Aid. Is there a funnier song than
Six String Orchestra?
- Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET
WOLD is still a great tune.
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
Yarnspinner with an acoustic guitar beloved by many for open-eyed
exploration of personal relationships. Deceased.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Tracy Chapman
Depri-Pop. Nothing on the second album she hadn't already stated on the
first.
- Wingerde van FJ fjvwing@cs.vu.nl
I like Tracy Chapman if for no other reason than because she sings about
things that are important, and the sings them well. I can't listen to
too much Tracy Chapman at a time, though, because it is very
self-similar (excuse me, I've been doing fractals).
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
It's rumored that she is the girl who played "Dee" on the old TV show
"What's Happening".
- Anton C Shepps (Tony)
rochester!moscom!telesci!ashepps%ll-xn.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu
Last year's Next Big Thing. Incessantly downer folk surely not aimed at,
but succeeding at, assuaging the guilt of the Greed Decade.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Music for listening to in cars or when you have something else to
concentrate on. I don't like it.
- Stephen K Mulrine
smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
what do you think, her 3rd album will go nowhere and in a year her first
lp will be a $1.99?
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
Cheap Trick
I really enjoyed the LIVE AT BUDOKAN album and I have another one by the
name of NEXT POSITION PLEASE (or something like that) which is quite
enjoyable.
- Neil Ottenstein OTTEN@UMCINCOM.BitNet
I used to really like their older stuff a lot, but I definitely do not
like their recent pop songs. I don't listen to them much anymore, but I
do still enjoy their first few albums. Heavy rock style. "I Want You to
Want Me" is NOT their typical older style. Recommendations: _In Color_,
_Live At Budokan_
- Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman)
Standard rock outfit with the reincarnation of Huntz Hall doing a pretty
good imitation of Pete Townsend. Mostly teenybopper stuff, but "Live at
Budokan" delivers the goods.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Chicago
Older music is heavily jazz oriented. A clear example is their fifth
album. The new vocalist sound a lot like Cetera. New music sounds the
same...unfortunate...
- TRM900@PSUVM.PSU.edu
Chick Corea
excellent Latin jazz pianist, played with Miles Davis in experimental
fusion "Bitches Brew" period, then formed Return to Forever with Stanley
Clarke.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
Jazz -- I hate jazz.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
Chieftains
Good music for studying. The arrangements are good. Fun music.
- rmiller@sbcs.sunysb.edu
hot Irish band.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
If you want to listen to traditional Irish music this is your first
stop.
- Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
Traditional Irish folk.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Fredric Chopin
Another classical biggie.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Is this the Chopin? If so, then he's another master, you gotta love him.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
try the piano nocturnes. Very moody.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
The Chordettes
Lollipop-lollipop-oo-loll-i-lollipop. Used to sing with Arthur Godfrey.
- Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET
Christmas
not quite as retro or psychadelic as some bands. but, live, christmas
are intense and talented.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Chubby Checker
A classic case of the right place at the right time. Probably made the
charts more times with the same song than anyone else.
- Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET
Popularizer of "The Twist".
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Chuck II Booker
Sort of a soft soul/dance vocalist guy, I think "Turned Away" was his
one big single (it's "Chuckii," btw). I picked up his album as a promo
from work once, didn't impress me too much but then I haven't gotten rid
of it either.
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
Very good funk. I love the new remix of "Turned Away".
- Hussein Yahia hussein@bora.inria.fr
Church
the best guitar pop band. try to figure how they make these songs
without synths.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
The Church
You didn't include this band in your original list, but it deserves to
be there, so I added it. The Church are an Australian band who have been
working together for about 10 years. They could be described as a blend
of rock, neo-psychedelia, and folk. Lead singer Steve Kilbey writes
brilliant, poetic lyrics. They achieve an original sound and feel, and
are not to be missed -- better albums include _Starfish_, _Heyday_, and
I would guess their upcoming release _Orange Afternoon Fix_ would be
equally high in goodness.
- Anton C Shepps (Tony)
rochester!moscom!telesci!ashepps%ll-xn.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu
Suzanne Ciani
Her music is very simple and soothing electronics. Just very relaxing to
listen to. Her _Seven Waves_ album is older than the rest, quite
different, but in my opinion, quite possibly the best one.
Recommendations: _Seven Waves_, _Neverland_
- Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman)
Mellow, kind of mushy, boring
- David Caldwell macs!dfc@bikini.cis.ufl.edu
More synthesizer-laden New Age music. Quite good, from what I've heard,
especially stuff from her _Neverland_ and _The Velocity of Love_ albums.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
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