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From: IED0DXM%OAC.UCLA.EDU@mitvma.mit.edu
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 89 13:59 PDT
Subject: MisK. (mostly mailbag)
To: Love-Hounds From: Andrew Marvick (IED) Subject: MisK. (mostly mailbag) First, a notice to Sue of San Diego: Vickie wants you to call her back! She says she really liked your phone calls, and wants you to know that she has found a soul-mate for you in the S.D. area, so would you please call her back soon? > Would anyone like to correct me? > >-- Julian Perhaps it didn't show up in Love-Hounds. IED doesn't remember. But yes, Julian, IED did at one point foolishly agree that he would state publicly that |>oug knew more about Kate Bush than IED did or ever would if |>oug could produce page and line number for his spurious attribution of the term "Nice to Swallow" to Kate--whether IED could subsequently demolish the source's credibility or not. So yes, here it is, folks: |>oug knows more about Kate Bush than IED knows or ever will. But |>oug sure doesn't _understand_ what he knows about Kate as well as IED understands what _he_ knows about her...(You all knew IED _had_ to have the last word, so who is IED to disappoint you?) > I have seen a huge, 12'' square book called "Kate Bush" which features >a year-by-year chronology of Kate's work (I didn't have the money at the >time, and when I went back the next day, with the appropriate amount, >which I begged my Dad to lend me, it was *gone*-- much gnawing and >gnashing of teeth ensued...). This may be the Kate Bush Complete you >are referring to, but I don't know. Whether it is or not, I really >appreciate the ISBN # and the Publishing address. No, it's not _Kate_Bush_Complete_. The book you're probably referring to is called _Kate_Bush:_A_Visual_Documentarty_, and if you must buy a Kate Bush "biography", that's probably the best one to buy, though IED counted a total of more than 50 factual errors in it. Still, one could certainly do much worse. For accuracy, _Kate_Bush_Complete_ is still the best, but its factual information about Kate's life is limited to the chronological outline in the beginning of the book. And _A_Visual_Doc._ has lots of neat pictures. Many thanks to the UK Love-Hound who posted that brief Capital Radio interview with Kate about _TSW_! IED found it fascinating, and not a little worrying. Kate sounded a bit paranoid (the stuff about being hanged) and depressed (the admission that she's been taking off _six_months_ at a time to get away from her work, in recent years, rather than simply a few weeks), and it was also sad to learn that the main reason for the discrepancies between the text of Molly Bloom's soliloquy and Kate's lyrics was that she was denied permission by the holders of the copyright to use the original words. It would have been the first time Kate had actually set a work of classic literature to music--in the grand old nineteenth-century lieder tradition. Too bad. But her alternative solutions are, of course, every bit as satisfying. Speaking of the Molly Bloom soliloquy, thanks, Ed, for posting it; as well as for all the updates on S.F.-area radio play of _TSW_, etc. Much appreciated here. About _This_Woman's_Work_ being available in the UK: IED believes that although the soundtrack album was never released in England, the film itself _did_ get released there. Besides, Kate should have known that any _real_ fan, whether in the U.S., England or Timbuktu, would already long since have acquired a copy of that song. Still, IED must admit that its placement in the context of the new album is utterly perfect, and in fact no other track would have had quite the effect she sought. Besides, there are _some_ differences between the two mixes. >dollar that after a decade of thinking about *whatever* she chose, you would >have nine different reasons why it was the most beautiful, rational decision >she could have possibly made. > Face it, artists only rarely *intend* very subtle implications of their >work. There are lots of interesting theories about how these implications >arise anyway, but that's not the point here. > Kate herself just said: > "I think really that art should become simpler rather than more complicated; >and in a lot of ways it worries me that I think this album is quite a >complex thing." > We have here a person who is striving for simplicity in her work,maybe >though not always achieving it. Brian, don't make a mistake here: it wouldn't be correct to assume that Kate's praise of "simplicity" in art implies that she is not deliberately making her own art complex. All it means is that she is is aware of--and perhaps equivocal about or even unhappy that--her art deviates from such an ideal simplicity. It would, IED believes, be a serious mistake to conclude that the subtleties of Kate's recordings are in _any_ way fortuitous or unpremeditated, or not fully known by Kate herself long before they are so slyly slipped into the public arena. Kate's remark about simplicity being an ideal to strive for in making art is mysterious and enigmatic, especially since it is known for a fact that she has a great penchant for complicating her own art--sometimes almost gratuitously, as with the "secret messages" in _Leave_It_Open_ or _Watching_You_Without_Me_. And being so apparently contradictory to the nature of her art, her statement must have a rather _complex_, or subtle, meaning! It reminds IED of other remarks Kate has made to the effect that people will _understand_ her music from an _emotional_ point of view even if they never quite understand its thematic or narrative meaning. Of course, she has also said that it's extremely important that the listener experience her music _while_reading_the_lyrics_, because that's such an important part of the art. So take your pick--you have just plunged into one of the great mysteries of Kate Bushology; but Kate's music complex by accident? No way! Daniel S. Efran writes: > Sorry if these have been answered already, but... > 1. In Breathing, they say "We are all going to die >_without.....(something)_" >What's the end of that line? They do it quite a few times. Actually, what you may be confusing is that line (which ends with the word "without") and the countersong which Kate sings at the end of the song: "Oh, life is---breathing!" (the last word being sort-of whispered and sucked in). But the lines "What are we going to do without" and "We are all going to die without" are complete sentences/questions. Kate is using the word "without" as the opposite of "within". Of course she's _also_ using it so that it dovetails perfectly with the countersong's lines, which can be heard as "finishing" the "without" line with the word "breathing". Typically _complex_ Kate Bush... > 2. Has Kate _ever_ been seen on a stage in the United States? As said already by two quicker Love-Hounds, only on _SNL_. There was a rumor once that she had also gone to a bar and performed impromptu while in America during the _SNL_ trip, but IED has never seen any confirmation of that story. > 3. Is there a poster of the Kick Inside cover? Didn't we just discuss this? Actually, there _was_ a poster from EMI-America of the front cover of the U.S. ("country-western") cover of the album. IED once saw it. It is extremely rare, however, and IED suspects if you ever find one you will not be able to afford it. IED has never seen or heard tell of a Canadian-cover poster; and there was never a UK poster of the UK album cover, so far as IED is aware, though there was a poster with the pink-leotard shot in the UK (this was also used as the cover for the Japanese edition of the LP). >4. Is Kate's Ninth Wave related to Sting's (Love is the) Seventh Wave? >If so, what's the reference to? (I assume it's literary) Good question. The cycle of waves in literature is usually referred to as being seven in number, rather than nine. In fact, IED only knows of Tennyson's reference to nine waves. He is not a very well read Love-Hound, however, so perhaps we should ask Julian. In any event, Kate chose the reference to Tennyson after the recording was made, and in fact had not even heard of it until _TNW_ had been completed. So don't try to read references to Tennyson into the recording. > 5. Is there anybody on here who hasn't bought Enya's Watermark album >yet? If so, go buy it immediately. Some of it's in English & some >isn't, but it's all incredibly good and quite in the league of the >Goddess. IED likes Enya very much, and has been enjoying her work since she did the soundtrack to the film _The_Frog_Prince_ several years back. But she is _NOT_ "quite in the league of the Goddess". That is absurd, and patently false. Enya has essentially one rather narrow aural and musical aesthetic idea, which she has varied and polished to surprisingly fine effect, but she is a _far_ smaller artistic talent than Kate. And that doesn't even introduce the fact that she doesn't even write her own lyrics--for the most part they are the work of her producer's ex-wife. > 6. Is Kate Bush the female Peter Gabriel or is Peter Gabriel the male >Kate Bush? Likewise, the comparison which people too often like to draw between Kate and Gabriel is misleading and does a disservice to Kate. As marvelous as Gabriel's work is, and as much as Kate's own may owe to it, can there be little doubt that Gabriel's melodic gifts, emotional range, vocal expressiveness, attention to detail, technical standards, and essential originality are all vastly inferior to Kate's? IED thinks not. >7. Either way, couldn't the two of them have come up with a better song >than Don't Give Up? Two of the most imaginative (read: strange) >songwriters of the century collaborate to produce one of the least >interesting songs either one has ever written? I don't get it. Don't blame Kate for that. It's Gabriel's work, completely. He described not only how he originally wanted Dolly Parton to do the female vocal part, but also how he reshaped Kate's vocal performance bit by bit to make it as much how he wanted it as possible. Kate's involvement in that song was no more than that of any of the other session musicians, except in that any music Kate makes she invests with greater emotion and art than anyone else would or could. > 8. Has anyone heard Kate's guest vox on the song Sister and Brother on >Midge Ure's album Answers to Nothing? It's pretty cool. Here Kate had a more active role in the creation of the record. Unlike with the Gabriel situation, with the Ure project Kate (presumably less willing to follow Ure's directions than Gabriel's) agreed to contribute the female vocal part providing that Ure would simply send her the masters, and let her create her entire vocal at her own studio, without him even being present. This (to his great credit) he agreed to do, and Kate sent him the finished tape one week later. All this is from Ure himself, who has long been a sincere admirer of Kate's work. >9. Does anyone know of any other KT guest vox that are worth having? 1. _Another_Day_, by Roy Harper, from a duet with Gabriel performed on Kate's Xmas special, 1979; 2. _Sing,_Children,_Sing_ from a charity single by Lesley Duncan; 3. _You_(_The_Game_Part_II)_ by Roy Harper, from his _The_Unknown_ _Soldier_ LP; 4. _The_Magician_, a solo-vocal cover she did of a song by Maurice Jarre and Paul Webster, for the film _The_Magician_of_Lublin_; 5. _No_Self_Control_ and _Games_Without_Frontiers_ from PGIII; 6. _Them_Heavy_People_ from a single by forgotten EMI artist Ray Shell; 7. _Flowers_, a track by Zaine Griff, from his LP _Figures_; 8. _The_Seer_, from the Big Country LP of the same name; 9. _The_King_is_Dead_, from Go West's LP _Dancing_on_the_Ceiling_; 10. _Let_It_Be_ and _I_Don't_Remember_, done with Peter Gabriel and Steve Harley during the Bill Duffield charity concert, May 1979; 11. _Let_It_Be_ from the Zeebrucke Ferry Relief single, 1987; 12. _Do_Bears_Sh...?_ from the UK Comic Relief shows, 1987; 13. _Spirit_of_the_Forest_ from the Gentlemen Without Weapons 12", '89. >10. Can anyone help me think of a tenth question? I guess nine is >enough--one for each wave. Please, please, no more questions. You're driving IED into an early grave. > To me, saying that the new KT album is more like the first >side of HoL than the second just means it doesn't have many songs about >dead or dying people. But death is a major theme of the songs on the first side of the new album! So John Carder Bush must have meant something else... -- Andrew Marvick