Cloudbusting -- Kate
Bush In Her Own Words
Philosophy
- I try to work on myself spiritually, and am always trying to improve
my outlook on life. We really abuse all that we've got, assuming that we are so
superior as beings, taking the liberty of sticking cement stuff all over the
place. I think there is a lot to astrology, and the effect the moon has upon us
all, but I hate the way it's becoming so trendy now.
- I'm a vegetarian, and now that's trendy as well...but what annoys me
the most is the way people are so automatically cynical about astrology. I
mean, the Greeks put an incredible amount of hard work into carefully planned
geometric charts, based purely on mathematics. People just shrug it off. It's
the same with coincidence, as I said in the song ``Strange Phenomena'' (1978,
The Blossoming Ms. Bush)
I asked kate if she was into the occult or astrology or anything,
cos the words and bat-demon visuals sometimes suggest a bit of a fascination
with all that, but drew a blank.
However, I do believe in spirits, and I also believe that people
communicate by much more than word of mouth. There are people like beacons
sitting on top of hills. You must have some friends that you can just feel
calling you some days. They're just saying ``help!'' and you pick it up. (1980,
ZigZag)
How important are material things to you, and do you enjoy having
money?
- I think I've just started enjoying money. It's very useful. But I'd
like to think that I don't depend on it. Alot of things I do do, like an album,
without money I wouldn't be able to record an album. But I would still be able
to write the songs again. But you know there is something great about making an
album.
Is there one material thing above all others that you don't have
right now, that you would like to have?
- No, nothing material, no.
Is there anything else, spiritual or otherwise, that you don't
have?
- Oh yeah! Now that's a completely different area. That's huge. You
see the material is so superficial, and it really doesn't matter. What it's
good for is comforts. And it can help you sorta get things done quicker, that
sort of thing. The other side is the real side, that's the real riches of your
life. And I've got a long long way to go there, I mean spiritually, as a
person. And a lot of things in my behavior pattern that I would love to change.
So that I could...
[Like] what?
- Very personal things. I don't really you could even put a label on
them, little behavior things that I know I do that are stopping me from doing
more things. Like maybe a certain kind of laziness I have about certain things
- I think oh no [Makes lazy motion]. If I could make the effort again in
these little areas I could be getting more. Things like that. (1980, Profiles In Rock)
There must
be a lot of stress on tour and a lot of pressure, do you do yoga and things?
- No, I don't. I have considered doing that, especially recently, just
cause I can't get any sleep. There's just not enough time in the day to do
everything. And I have thought of TM, just seems to be the one that everyone
considers the way to get over sleep, but I haven't had the time.
At the moment you relax by keeping going.
- Yeah! (1981, Looking
Good, Feeling Fit)
Now, in
the music world there's a lot of late nights, high living and things, and yet
you do not have pimples, spots...
[Kate points at face and whispers] pimples.
:.. And all the things that the rest of us get if we stay out late
at night, how do you manage that?
- Well, I do. I do get pimples and things, but luckily I've found some
creams and things that are incredibly good for my skin and I use them morning
and night and I seem to be okay. But I do get spots, everyone gets spots. And I
think, you know, being a female, the most important thing is to get the makeup
off, cause that can really ruin your skin. So just try to get that, and have a
good time!
Is it, wash and wash and wash?
- Well, not wash and wash...
How do you mean, have a good time?
- Well, you could have a good time. If you're worry, then your skin
shows that you're very worried, I think, everyone knows that. Have a good time,
that's what it's for isn't it, life.
You obviously enjoy yourself and you're obviously very happy...
- I am.
...Do you think that is why you're a healthy person?
- I don't think I'm a healthy person. You see, I dance because I want
to dance, not 'cause I want to keep fit. And it's just a sort of side thing
that I happen to keep fit at the same time. I really like what I do and that
that's what it's all about. (1981, Looking Good, Feeling Fit)
Many of your songs contain references to occult and esoteric
philosophy. Is this a particular interest of yours, or are you just widely
read?
- I don't think I am particularly interested in the occult, but I do
have an interest in the human mind, and the unusual situations that occur, or
are said to occur, to human beings in extreme religious or spiritual states.
But surely we all have a curiosity for things that we know little about. (1984,
KBC 16)
You talk about energies quite a lot. Do you subscribe to a
particular theory or religion or
anything like that?
[Laughing] subscribe to a monthly manual.
You know what I mean.
- No, I don't, really. But I do think certain things help, like I
think trying to be positive about things is a very helpful thing. It can just
stop you getting down, and to try and enjoy things if you can. But I don't have
any kind of religious beliefs, really. (1985, Picture Disk)
Have you any religious beliefs?
- No. not, not ones that I could name. I mean, I do believe in
certain... I suppose, cause and effect is something that I would believe in a
bit, but whether they're religious beliefs, I don't know.
"Cause and effect'' - explain that.
- Well, I think if you behave I a certain way, then that energy will
come back to you. the boomerang syndrome.
So the more positive one is in their thoughts and actions, the more
positive life they will lead? And vice versa?
- Ah, yes, I would... I think there is a lot in that. I think there's
also a lot in that if you are positive and can be, even if things around you
aren't necessarily coming back, at least you cope with them better.: so you
think there's this sort of powerful force behind it all? Yes, I think it's
actually a survival technique, a self-preservation where if you can always keep
coming back, keep coming up again, not staying down there, then you're going to
get a lot more done, you're going to be a lot more in control of what's
happening than if you're depressed, unhappy. (1985, Profile 6)
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