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From: "Stuart M. Castergine" <scasterg@dispatch.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:29:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: coming out
To: Love-Hounds <love-hounds@gryphon.com>
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In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971027140358.00668448@student.uq.edu.au>
On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, K Bacon wrote: > Why some emailers here feel they have to go out of their way to > ridicule or 'disprove', or describe the 'unreasonableness' of my (and > others') interpretation instead of just letting me (and others) enjoy the > song how we want is beyond me...of course the fact that some people have > *only ever* gone out of their way in *this case* to disprove a *gay* > interpretation would have *NOTHING* to do with homophobia, would it guys :) No, as a matter of fact it wouldn't. I've been on love-hounds for about seven years and for all that time it has been one of the most non-homophobic groups and mailing lists I have ever been involved with. Kate has written some beautiful songs that have gay themes (Wow, Eddie the Queen, others). Most of us are aware of that and it is one of the reasons many people like Kate. We have had some pretty lively discussions over the years about song interpretations. The fact that many of us are big enough Kate enthusiasts to have read "A Book of Dreams" or to at least have a familiarity with it certainly colors our perceptions aboput the meaning of one of Kate's most propular songs, and probably makes some of us rather opinionated. But disagreeing that a song is about "coming out" as a gay, even vigorously so, does not in any way equal homophobia! You start lashing out with that accusation and tar people as homophobes because they disagree with you and that makes me angry. The argument on this discussion probably has a whole lot more to do about two competing and valid schools of interpretation -- that there are both valid and invalid interpretations of a song's meaning, or that any meaning that the listener derives from the song is a valid meaning. This controversy in itself causes arguments. Nobody said being gay was bad. Nobody criticized homosexuality. People just think "Cloudbusting" isn't about coming out. That's not homophobic. That's just an opinion. You calling them homophobes is a really cheap shot. Stu mailto:scasterg@dispatch.com == Stuart Castergine All young gentle dreams drowning In life's grief Can you hang on to me? -Kate Bush, _Big Stripey Lie_