love-hounds-digest Digest V13 #166

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love-hounds-digest Digest                               Volume 13 : Issue 166

Today's Topics:
  Re: Wassail                           [ "Renee Rosen" <lilitu@cjnetworks.co ]
  Re: Under The Ivy                     [ Richard Bensam <rabensam@earthlink. ]
  Does Kate sing on Band Aid, "Feed th  [ Philliph <PHILLIPH@ICENTER.NET> ]
  Re: Does Kate sing on Band Aid, "Fee  [ Dongerous! <fastslow@idt.net> ]
  Re: What this group listens to        [ John Lang <johnlang1@compuserve.com ]
  Re: Age-Poll                          [ peggy cannon <cannon@aone.com> ]

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Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 16:51:25 +0000
From: "Renee Rosen" <lilitu@cjnetworks.com>
To: love-hounds@gryphon.com
Subject: Re: Wassail
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On 10 Jul 97 at 17:23, Spbarker@aol.com wrote:

> When it comes down to it, most of the major Christian festivals are
> just thinly disguided pagan ones.  In fact, they didn't even bother
> to come up with a new name for Easter (it's named after the pagan
> goddess Eastre).

[I'll keep this short, since Pagan topics are semi-off-topic here,
unless they pertain to KaTe--if you want to continue this discussion,
take it off list or to a Pagan forum. I wouldn't post this at
all, except bad etymology is one of my pet peeves, so you'll
have to suffer through this post. *grin* Thanks!]

Actually, that's only true in English and some other Germanic
languages, though not all--the word for Easter in Dutch is "Pas,"
for instance. The word for "Easter" in many languages comes from
Passover, the Jewish holiday that is the direct precursor to Easter
(since the Last Supper was a Passover Seder). Even in English,
there's the word "Paschal" meaning "Easter-time." Passover is around
the time of the Spring Equinox (and is probably originally an Equinox
festival, with historical "justifications" added later, since most
Jewish holidays are originally seasonal in origin), so some Germanic
speakers used their name for the Spring Equinox festival for Easter.
(The bunnies and eggs are probably Pagan in origin, though.) This is
similar to "Yule" being a name for Christmas; Yule was originally a
12 day Germanic feast.

Renee
lilitu@cjnetworks.com

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Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 18:31:33 -0500
From: Richard Bensam <rabensam@earthlink.net>
To: Love-Hounds <love-hounds@gryphon.com>
Subject: Re: Under The Ivy
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Leigh Perkins wrote:

>     the line "the green on the grey" is a possible indicator of a
>     graveyard, this may not be as far fetched as it seems - East Wickham
>     farm looks across to Plumstead Church and the common.  I wonder if
>     this was somewhere to hide from everyone!! - there's alot of
>     gravestones that are covered with ivy there - what think you??
>
>     Leigh

For years I heard this line as "the green on the grave" -- rather than "on
the gray" -- and this conjured up *exactly* the image you describe.  And it
is SUCH an archetypal Kate image, to go hiding in an ivy-strewn graveyard,
that I still suspect this is what she had in mind.  She does seem to be
singing "on the grey" but we can't rule out the possibility that it was
originally written as "grave" and she changed it later.  To avoid an
unnecessarily morbid connotation?  To keep from revealing too personal an
image?  Whichever, it obviously didn't work well enough.  :-)


RAB

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Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 18:42:08 -0500
From: Philliph <PHILLIPH@ICENTER.NET>
To: love-hounds@gryphon.com
Subject: Does Kate sing on Band Aid, "Feed the World"
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I have a CD player that holds 200 CD's and often let it play songs at
random. This afternoon I was working at my PC while playing CD's at
random, and my player played Back to Back songs, "Army Dreamers", and
then the Band Aid, song "Feed the World", which reminded me of a
question that I  have often wondered. Does Kate sing on "Feed the
world", and if so is there any specific part where her voice is
predominant, or at least noticable? I know that I, as a very long and
loyal Kate fan(atic) could be chastised for not knowing this, and should
be able to recognize her voice, but please humour me. Kindest reagrds to
all. Phillp Holbrook

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Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 19:20:43 -0700
From: Dongerous! <fastslow@idt.net>
To: Philliph <PHILLIPH@ICENTER.NET>
Cc: love-hounds@gryphon.com
Subject: Re: Does Kate sing on Band Aid, "Feed the World"
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At 4:42 PM -0700 7-12-97, Philliph wrote:
>I have a CD player that holds 200 CD's and often let it play songs at
>random. This afternoon I was working at my PC while playing CD's at
>random, and my player played Back to Back songs, "Army Dreamers", and
>then the Band Aid, song "Feed the World", which reminded me of a
>question that I  have often wondered. Does Kate sing on "Feed the
>world", and if so is there any specific part where her voice is
>predominant, or at least noticable? I know that I, as a very long and
>loyal Kate fan(atic) could be chastised for not knowing this, and should
>be able to recognize her voice, but please humour me.

No, that was Tori Amos.

- Don

P.S. You asked for it!


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"Don't worry, I don't have low self-esteem. It's a mistake. I have low
esteem for everyone else." - Daria Morgendorfer of "Daria" in "Esteemers"

"Winner? You know, it's another word for loser" - Jane Lane of "Daria" in
"Malled"

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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 07:34:54 -0400
From: John Lang <johnlang1@compuserve.com>
To: "Love-hounds(1)  DIG" <love-hounds@gryphon.com>
Subject: Re: What this group listens to
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Showing my age, here are some soundsmiths of note:
Eric Clapton (Cream, John Mayall), Vangelis, Nik Kershaw,
Jeff Beck, Deep Forest, Tomita,  Walter/Wendy Carlos,
Marilyn Monroe, Enya, Peter Gabriel, Jan Hammer, Django
Rheinhardt, Bert Jansch, Leo Kottke, Gerry Rafferty, Toyah,
Roy Harper, Jimi Hendrix, Clannad, Basia, Joni Mitchell,
Joan Baez, Julie Driscoll, Maria Muldaur, Wishbone Ash,
(Noosha) Fox, Free, Led Zeppelin, Taste, Steely Dan, Yes,
ELP, Streetwalkers, Focus, Canned Heat, Robin Trower,
Stevie Ray Vaughan, Harvey Mandel, Mike Bloomfield,
Blodwyn Pig, Fleetwood Mac (original),
and Heads, Hands & Feet.

OK, so I like guitar playing!


WFK (waiting for Kate)

John St.Clair Lang
>>>>>> JOHNLANG1@compuserve.com
==================== Plymouth, England (UK)

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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:05:39 -0700
From: peggy cannon <cannon@aone.com>
To: rec-music-gaffa@nac.no
Subject: Re: Age-Poll
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Darkhop wrote:
>
> As I said on another post, I just found this place, so I'm not sure yet
> if I'll be hanging around. But in the interest of demographics....
>
> Male; 37
> 1st album bought: The Dreaming
> Why: Cool cover. I'd seen The Kick Inside when I worked in a record shop
> in 1979 but didn't make the connection on first glimpse of tD. I was
> interested in dreams at the time & that photo sure looked like one.
> Those drums starting off Sat In Your Lap practically made me a fan right
> there.
> Kate albs I own: all except for Red Shoes (has she made anything since?)
> Top three in order: tD, HoL, NFE
> Top three tunes in order: Get Out of my House, Gaffa, Jig of Life (this
> list would likely change daily)
>
> I came looking for this group because I'm reading The Night Is Large by
> Martin Gardner, with an essay about the guy that Cloudbusting is
> apparently based on. (And I'm sure someone here has made the connection
> between Cloudbusting and Hawkwind's Orgone Accumulator, right? <g>) What
> a crock! Has Kate ever talked about him? I'm curious about her take on
> this rainmaking machine of his.
>
> Yers,
> John
> http://www.darkhop.com
> "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." --Hunter S. Thompson


I have always assumed that "Cloudbusting" was a thinly disguised
re-telling of Wilhelm Reich's story -- and his orgone energy machine.

Peg Cannon
cannon@aone.com

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