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From: pdc@acorn.net (pDaleCampbell)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:55:22 GMT
Subject: Re: L-H V12.326 (Billboards and Learning Painful Lessons)
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In the latest L-H digest (#326), aawebster@aol.com (AAWebster) wrote: > I keep thinking of that quote, attributed to her, that we Americans > "don't want me over there." Kate, I hope you're listening--we in America > want you to tour. This is a repetition of Len Bullard's "re-analysis" (Vol 11,#302; Thu, 23 Nov 1995): > [...] Consider the remark made by the > fellow who worked for Prince when he > said she said "I'm not wanted over there." > That's fear speaking and maybe just a touch > of insecurity. Normal but unwarranted. [...] ...of LoLife's original statement, which in fact was (Vol 11, #252; Wed, 4 Oct 1995): > [...] I also asked her if she was going to come > to Minneapolis, and she said I don't think I'm wanted out there right > now. [...] Now when *I* read that, it tells me that Kate felt that <TAFKAP> was the fool who did not want her coming to America. Given LoLife's description of the clown prince's twisted (though creative) mind, I think that is BY FAR the most logical meaning (here we go, arguing "meaning" again). Since the original post is a fascinating slice-o-life, here it is, at no extra charge: > From: LoLife <lolife@bitstream.net> > Subject: Re: Worked on Why Should I Love You > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 20:15:59 -0500 > X-Sender: lolife@marley > To: kln@crl.com > In-Reply-To: <44p2dh$h04@nntp.crl.com> > > On Mon, 2 Oct 1995 kln@crl.com wrote: > > > > lolife@bitstream.net (LoLife) writes: > > > I've begged her to let me record or mix something for years (that's what > > > I do for a living). My wish came true when I worked on Why Should I > > > Love You when I worked for Prince, but I hated what he did to that song > > > so much it killed me. > > > > > > > So, lolife, tell us about this experience. We're curious little animals, the Love Hounds. > > > > Did you ever get to talk to Kate in person? > > I did, but only for a short moment. I was at home and the phone rang. I > didn't always answer the phone in those days, because I was severly > overworked. So my answering machine picked it up and I heard Julie, from > Paisley Park, saying "Mike, I got Kate Bush on the phone and she has some > questions about what format they should send things over on, and I > thought it would be best if she talked to you. I, being an admitted Kate > Bush fan, freaked, but picked up the phone and talked to Julie. She says, > Kate, I have Prince's engineer Michael Koppelman on the phone and he can > answer your questions. Meanwhile, my answering machine is still recording > it all, and blaring loudly. I tell my then girlfriend to shut if off just > as Kate comes on and says Hello Michael? (so to this day, if I could find > it, i have a tape of Kate saying hello to me...). The conversation > consisted only of her asking me if they could send 24-track tapes and > what series SSL computer disks. I also asked her if she was going to come > to Minneapolis, and she said I don't think I'm wanted out there right > now. Then we basically said good-bye and hung up. > > It's funny because Prince knew I was a huge KB fan. He was too, but not > like me. The first time I asked him if he liked Kate Bush he said, she's > my favorite woman. I also made him a tape of all the KB b-sides, which > fucking rule. When The Sensual World came out he had someone go get it and > we listened to it in the studio. He didn't dig it that much, but I knew > you can't always tell right away with a Kate album. TSW grew on me, but it > is still not her best effort. This Woman's Work is a masterpiece, though, > and makes the whole album worth it. But I digress. Prince is weird, and a > couple stories in this post prove it. I may be tooting my own horn here, > but Prince has a weird ego. I think *part* of his motivation to work with > Kate was the fact that I worshipped her, and he knew it would impress me > that he could call her on the phone and work on her music and shit. > ANYWAY, what led up to the phone conversation above: one day Prince's > assistant, Therese, told me as we were talking on the phone that Kate Bush > had called. Therese also knew I was a big Kate fan. Then, in the studio > that day, Prince said, guess who I talked to today. Me, being stupid and > unable to keep my mouth shut, said, Kate Bush? Prince got a little miffed, > and said How did you know that? And I said Therese told me, and he said, > hmm, I should dock here for that. At that point I knew I fucked up and > tried to say, no, she just knew I'm a big fan. As a side note, I told > Therese that Prince was a little pissed that she had told me that, and she > apologized to him. Therese is a really cool person. So, Prince tells me > that he and Kate are going to work on a tune together. He also told me > that while they were talking he told her that his engineer would rather > work with her than him. (I thought, wow, Prince and Kate Bush talking > about me!) ANYWAY, Eventually the phone call above occured and the tapes > arrived and I put them up and got a rough mix up. I still have a cassette > of it. It fucking rules. It is 1 million times better than the lame diso > Prince put on it. There was, of course, no disco on it before Prince got > his hands on it. So Prince comes in and listens to it. And the brutality > began. First we sampled the drum thing and synced it up to my Powerbook so > we could do MIDI. At that point, we essentially created a new song on a > new piece of tape and then flew all of Kate's tracks back on top of it. So > now we could run the sequencer and add all the keyboards that Prince put > on. So Prince stacked a bunch of keys, guitars, basses, etc, on it and then > went to sing background vocals. When Prince does vocals, he sits right at > the recording console with a microphone hanging over it and does his own > punching in and out. So he kicks everyone out of the room when he sings. > It took him a few hours and then he called me back in and played me the > thick, multi-tracked background vocals he had put on. Now, as we all know, > the song in question goes "Of all the people in the world why should i > love you". When Prince called me back in and played me what he had done, > he had sung "All of the people in the world", instead of Of All. I said, > isn't it OF all the people in the world? Not ALL of? He said, no, we had a > little talk about that, in his cocky way, as if to say he had talked with > Kate about changing the words to "all of" instead of "of all". The next > day, I was waiting at my hotel room for the call to go to the studio when > the assistant engineer, Sylvia Massy, called and said Prince was in the > studio doing vocals. I was surprised; i was always called well in advance > of Prince going into the studio. When I got there he was changing all the > vocals to "Of All", and was sampling them in himself, which is something > he would normally never do himself. My interpetation? He made a mistake, > as humans do, and didn't have the guts to admit it. That's weird. So I > sorta poked my head in at one point and asked him if he needed any help, > and we went on with the day. Eventually he had me do a rough mix, and when > he had approved it, we sent it to Kate. I got a call from Therese a few > days (or weeks, I forget) later. She said, Kate Bush said to destroy all > copies of that mix. I said, huh? Did she not like it or something? (my > heart rejoiced, because I hated what Prince did to it) She said, I don't > know, she just said to destroy them. Later on Prince told me, Kate Bush > liked what we did. She said it sounded very American. So at that point I > wasn't sure if she was even going to use it. We sent the tapes back and > she sort of split the difference with what he sent and what's on the > record. Kate, if you read this, stick the pre-Prince version of Why Should > I Love You out on something. And let me do a remix of Not This Time. > > Later, > LoLife > aka > Michael Koppelman > lolife@bitstream.net > http://www.bitstream.net/gods/lolife > > DISCLAIMER: The above is my perception of what occured. I was there, and > that's what I thought of it. I did not intend to invade anyone's privacy, > nor have I signed a non-disclosure agreement with any of the parties > mentioned. I also want to add that I truly enjoyed my years working for > Prince, but the man treats people as if he thinks he is actually "better" > than them, like he's royalty or something, and that makes it hard to look > back on working with him fondly. pDale "Clavinistic virtues" Campbell pdc@acorn.net "I shook my head and smiled a whisper, knowing all about the place"