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From: Douglas Alan <nessus@mit.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:36:13 -0400
Subject: apartheid and Frames
To: love-hounds@gryphon.com
Sender: owner-love-hounds
Chris Williams <chrisw@miso.wwa.com> wrote: > I am on the side of right, and am fighting against hatred and bigotry. > Why should I stop? So, let me see if I have your argument straight: Mr. Burkhard Siedhoff has made a nice Kate Bush oriented Web site. Unfortunately, Burkhard's Web site requires a Frames and JavaScript enabled browser. Even though such browsers are available from several different vendors, and a number of these browsers are completely free, Burkhard is as evil as a KKK member pushing for apartheid. The reason Burkhard is as evil as a KKK member is because he clearly hates the blind and anyone with old computers not capable of running modern Web browsers. Even though we know nothing else about this man, we can deduce that he is a hateful bigot because of the cold callousness toward the technically challenged, which is demonstrated by his refusal to put in an apparently minimal amount of work to make his site backward compatible with older Web browsers. This callousness shows him for the hateful bigot he is. We are so sure that of the awful hate that swells up in side this man, that we will gladly risk offending and alienating black people by comparing Burkhard's Kate Bush Web site to a system of oppression whose sole purpose was to crush the spirit of an entire race of human beings. Do I have your argument straight Chris? If not, please tell me where I am mistaken. As I have said before, I find this line of reasoning to be absurd and quite offensive. First of all, you neglect to take into account potential motives other than hate and bigotry that might explain Burkhard's decision. On the other hand, having separate water fountains for blacks and whites was clearly motivated by hate. There was no other explanation for it. Every black person who was subject to apartheid knew they lived in a society where the people in power hated them, their children, and all their generations to come. They knew that every step they took to better themselves would be rewarded by a jackboot to the head by someone who despised them. Every day was one filled by either fear or submission. The separate water fountain was just one of many tentacles of a system designed to crush the spirit out of their entire race. On the other hand there are many possible motives for Burkhard's decision: - I don't know how to make it work better. - I don't have the time to make it work better. - I don't want to enable the page for any Web browser that I can't test out myself. After all, my name is on this site and I want to make sure it looks good. - I have an artistic vision, and what I have done satisfies this vision. Any compromise would destroy my vision and make me unhappy. - I don't do HTML directly, I use an HTML editor, and this is what the editor did. Sorry. - I don't have easy access to the Web site myself. I designed it off the Web and gave the files to a friend to put in place for me. Any change no matter how small takes a great deal of effort for me to transfer the files to the right place. - My wife will kill me if I don't get home by 6pm sharp. Sorry, can't help you. - Sure I can fix the Frames, but what about the JavaScript. The JavaScript is also important to me. - Well, I might have fixed it, but you strike me as an ass, so forget it. - I feel that Microsoft is a huge threat to the Internet, and I'm willing to sacrifice some of my audience to give a boost to the competition. - The Web is no longer a text delivery mechanism, it is quickly becoming a distributed, multimedia, just-in-time Java oriented operating system, and I have no intention of looking back. If I add Lynx compatibility today, I'll just have to break it tomorrow when I add Java programs, RealAudio music, dancing text, animated icons, videos, VRML worlds, etc. - I feel for the poor and the blind, but I feel the solution for the poor is government supplied Java computers to the needy. The solution for the blind is a Web page translating software that will ferret out any text on a site and display it. In fact I give a lot of money to charities that work toward these goals. I don't know which of these explanations is the correctly one--if any of them is--and perhaps you and I don't agree with some or all of these motives, but as you can see, none of them involves hate, bigotry, or an organized political system designed to crush an entire race. > You're still refusing to see how much impact this has. I'll give you > another example, OK? Until frames, at least some part of every web page > could be read by the blind using speaking browsers. Well, until the Web, there was Gopher. It was text-only and therefore put the blind and the seeing on equal footing. The Web ruined all this by adding pictures. Why not rant against the Web then? You fail to realize that it is precisely the visual appeal of the Web that made it so popular, and it's not going to get any less visual. The Web is going to increasingly become more visually oriented, with more interactivity. None of this will be particularly suited to the blind and there is nothing you are going to be able to do about it with your whining and offensive analogies. As every day passes by, the Web will become less of a text delivery mechanism and more of distributed operating system running just-in-time Java applications. Should we let the blind stand in front of the bulldozers of the Internet revolution? Perhaps this would yield a better world, but (1) I tend to doubt that it would. Design is an art form; it is a form of human expression, and it shouldn't be squashed out of concern for a small, handicapped minority of the population. (2) It's just not going to happen. If you want to make a difference, you should provide tools to help the handicapped navigate in a world designed for the fully able. You can't cut off everyone's legs and poke out their eyes in the name of equality. Just for yucks, I went to Burkhard's Web page using Mosaic and saw the front door note saying that I couldn't access it with Mosaic. I didn't let this deter me. I asked Mosaic to show me the HTML source code, and after looking at the source code for a moment, I went to the URL's indicated in the HTML source. I did this knowing nothing about HTML. I was able to get to all of the material on the Web site using this technique, although some of the pages had ugly JavaScript code in them that Mosaic doesn't know how to present in a pretty manner. You want to make a difference, Chris? Teach the blind to use this technique. Better yet, since the source code is available to lynx and Mosaic, why don't you modify them into a tool for the blind? A tool that will automate my manual technique. Even better yet, set up a Web site for the blind that will allow other Web sites to be specified and will provide a blind-friendly interface to them. Or just go to the library and read some books onto tape, for crying out loud. There are many constructive things you can do, Chris. Accusing some poor schmuck of being a Nazi because his Web site doesn't meet your standard of compatibility is not constructive. Nor is trivializing the systematic oppression of a race of people. |>oug