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From: nbc@inf.rl.ac.uk (Neil Calton)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:51:31 +0100
Subject: Re: Beg to Differ
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To: rec-music-gaffa@agate.berkeley.edu From: Buffalohead <nsrjm@nursepo.medctr.ucla.edu> Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Beg To Differ Date: 19 Aug 1995 15:03:28 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Lines: 28 Message-ID: <414ug0$92e@saba.info.ucla.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950818155912.1244A-100000@luna> <414ie7$onp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.142.8.72 John - jjh969@aol.com (JJH969) wrote: > > I don't know about that performance specifically, > but anything that don't suck on American T.V. > might be considered "controversial". > JJH969@AOL.COM Robb wrote: > There is plenty that's good about American TV, including our >production values, our in-depth dramas (E.R.) and our ribald comedies. >Musically, too, this is where it all began -- if not for Kate, or even >her mentors (Elton John and The Beatles), then for theirs. > The point is, generalizations like 'American T.V. sucks' and >'whoever accused us of having good taste' are sneakily offensive. In >the guise of self-deprecation, your comments seem innocuous enough, >but don't forget you are representing a lot of people -- many of whom >have the good taste to be on this newsgroup -- in an international >medium. As an outsider who has visited the US a few times and who comes from the UK which traditionally has always felt a bit smug that its own TV was "better" than in the US I have to say that a lot of my favourite TV programmes are American. On the other hand it is also true that there is a load of crap on US TV as well. When you are producing so much product for so many channels some of it is bound to stink. Here in the UK Channel 4 seems to make a habit of picking up some of the best US programmes for us to see viz. Hill Street Blues, Cheers, St. Elsewhere, Golden Girls, Thirtysomething, Northern Exposure, Roseanne, ER. Plus the BBC showed Twin Peaks, X-Files and ST:TNG. However, there are a number of other comedies and quiz shows that have come over here which have been dire. Personally I find anything with Bill Cosby in it unwatchable. I also have the feeling that US shows often look better over here as there are far fewer commercial breaks to interrupt the flow. British TV was always praised for its dramas and documentaries in the past but I feel in recent years the frequency of quality material has declined. In part this may be due to increased competition from satellite and cable and pressure on the BBC to increase its audience share in order to justify the licence fee. This means our peak viewing times are filled with soaps and the likes of Cilla Black and Noel Edmonds. Music shows are almost non-existant and either "yoof-oriented" dross or stuck away late at night on short runs (e.g. Later with Jools Holland). There are still a few good UK documentaries but the US can also do an excellent job here as well e.g. Ken Burns magnificent series on the US Civil War. In short I think it is fair to say "American TV sucks" AND "American TV is great" it just depends what part of that vast array of material you choose to analyse. Neil Calton Neil Calton INTERNET: nbc@inf.rl.ac.uk Computing & Information JANET: nbc@inf.rl.ac.uk Systems Department BITNET: nbc%inf.rl.ac.uk@ukacrl Rutherford Appleton Lab. Tel: +44 1235 44 5740 Fax: +44 1235 44 5893 Chilton, Didcot, Oxon URL: OX11 0QX , England http://www.cis.rl.ac.uk/people/nbc.html