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From: Gleea@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 22:01:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Under the Ivy Deconstructed
To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
Greetings all. I've sunk into a heavy lurking mode of late, but feel the need to re-emerge into this thread and throw in my $.02. This song intrigues me and has seemed to be one of her works most ripe for meaningful speculations. I had more or less come to the conclusion, as others have also indicated, that she is revealing to the listener the nature of some private place wherein dwells her muscian's soul. Two interesting bits which caught my eyes and ears, but which other Love Hounds have yet to comment on: The back cover photo of The Dreaming is a field of Ivy. ("go under the ivy") On The Sensual World, she hides behind a White Rose ("go right into the white rose, I'll be waiting for you"). Now, there are different ways to look at this. One would be that the only link here is that Kate just happens to like the imagry of Ivy and White Roses. However, I am inclined to think that there is more to it. I don't know if she consciously choose to intertwine and overlap these symbols, but I can't help but feel that this may be one of those instances in which the artist plants something into her work which carries with it a deeper significance than she herself may be consciously aware of. I see the Ivy and the White Rose as sort of totem symbols for the secret inner places of her creative spirit. To quote Albert's contribution: ~~I guess the intimacy of the piano arrangement and the lyrics gave me a sense that she was inviting the listener into the private world of her music. . ~~ I also want to quote |>oug Allen's post: ~~I asked John Carder Bush this very question and he wrote me back saying that artists are apertures for God and are therefore not necessarily conscious of all the meanings that exist in their work. The more layered meanings there are, the better the aperature. Kate, he says, is quite the conduit. ~~ To that I say, wow, what a family!! I invite comments. Surely someone else has noticed this? IED mentioned something a month or so ago about an article Karen L. Newcombe wrote on symbolism in Under the Ivy for HomeGround. I would be most interested in getting your feedback on this, Karen, since I was unable to read the HomeGround article. Waiting in the garden, Lee G.