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Re: Maliciousness in Love-Hounds

From: murazor@cute.cute.fi (Mikko Barros)
Date: 17 Jan 1995 15:10:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Maliciousness in Love-Hounds
To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Organization: Cute Communications OY
References: <3fatmh$pt3@transu.cute.fi> <D2HIvz.9zq@freenet.carleton.ca>

Tippi Chai (aj796@freenet.carleton.ca) wrote:

: 1) I don't think flame wars are happening because people are malicious;
:    rather it's because some people have high opinions of themselves, and
:    others send off email or posts in the heat of the moment, so petty
:    disagreements can lead to malicious words being flung across the net and
:    trampled feelings.

If a little control of one's feelings, supressing of one's ego and 
realization of the value of others' feelings were applied before 
replying, I bet the conversation would be of higher class.

: 2) Even if people are malicious, there is nothing we should/can do - if we
:    bar people from posting (as if we can) it will be CENSORSHIP.  

: > Are they not everything that's opposed to Kate?

: Well, KateFandom ain't a religion (although some regard Her as Godhead)
: and she has never said "Thou shalt do this" or "My fans should never do that".
: While she herself is the embodiment of politeness, her fans are not required
: to possess that particular characteristic.

Of cource not, but IMO it's inpoliteness towards Kate to hammer down 
others' opinions.

: As for those who say LH is dominated by a close-kit family, I disagree.
: The names that were cited are those who post a lot and/or possess a
: huge amount of Kate lore, and that is the only "kinship" that is apparent.

I for one have always opposed closed circles...it has some very damaging 
aspects to rational menatl activity. The growth of selfcontentness is one 
of the problems of these closed circles.

: It is true that newbies (Kate-wise or Net-wise) can be intimated by the
: tone of some of their postings.  But I am sure their intent is not to
: exclude newcomers.  Unfortunately personalities are as different as snow 
: flakes, and some people tend to stir up friction a lot; in the case
: of LoveHounds there just seems to be a larger than normal proportion
: of them!

The word 'newbie' as such is as offensive as: nigger, fascist, spokesman, 
faggot, etc...it is impolite to give people lables. On the other hand I 
wouldn't want the terminology to go as far as in the States with all the 
looong terms such as 'physically impaired'. It's just that 'newbie' is 
such a unnecessary word...how long does one have to be in this group to 
not be a 'newbie' or how long has one have had to listen to Kate to not be a 
'newbie'? 

Anyways, I don't know very much about Lovehounds and as such haven't got 
enough knowledge to judge them...I can only say that talking to Vickie, I 
have found out that she at least isn't the monster she has been tagged.
If the Lovehounds known to be loud and pressuring in their opinions, why 
not re-christen them...Love does not condemn, nor does it judge.


--
  'Hello old lady, I know your face well - I know it well.'
                                       -Kate-

Dani
<murazor@cute.fi>