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From: Peter Byrne Manchester <PMANCHESTER@ccmail.sunysb.edu>
Date: 26 Mar 1993 00:56:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: tIEDbit
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Cc: pmanchester@ccmail.sunysb.edu
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Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Andrea got it going: >........... Unfortunately I was not part of this group when IED first >appeared and so now that he has returned it has occurred to me that I don't >know what IED means/stands for. :-) (very sheepishly) Can anyone be so >kind as to tell me without laughing too hard. I don't see anyway that it >connects with Kate's name or a song, but I'm probably missing something. Evan Welsh did the set-up: >To the best of REW's knowledge IED has never divulged this secret to any >but a trusted and privileged few, of which REW is sadly not one. > >Previous attempts to guess the meaning behind The Symbols have proved >fruitless, with IED refusing to be goaded into either confirming or denying >theories presented by numerous intrepid philocanines. If REW casts his mind >back, one particular theory--not his own--springs to mind: In Excelsis Dea >which, if REW's total lack of latin education fails to expose him for the >charlatan he is, means Goddess in heaven. > >Here's hoping that after all this time IED will TaKe pity on his fellow >gaffans (would that REW was worthy to be called such) and realise that the >world is ripe for this knowledge. |>oug Alan, in a position to know, purported to present the facts: >Don't bend your mind too much -- I, E, and D are just the first three >letters of his old username, IED0DXM. His account was probably on >some godawful IBM mainframe, where the system managers felt they must >give users account names with apparently random sequences of numbers >and letters, just so that everything would look proper and >businesslike. All Doug's facts are correct, and in an earlier post that I can't now find, someone else had also recalled that IEDODXM was at UCLA. The problem is, in the phrase "his old username," who is the antecedent of the pronoun "his"? The thread concerns *IED*. Doug is only reporting what Andrew Marvick would tell you: EMAIL> First, the little matter of "IED". There is no single correct EMAIL> answer, though your suggestion is an excellent one. I have had EMAIL> several suggestions from Love-Hounds over the years. Among the EMAIL> best, I think, are: "In Excelsis Dea" (is that the correct case- EMAIL> ending for "goddess", by the way?); Identity of Editor Deleted; EMAIL> and I Encourage Devotion. The "truth" is actually much less EMAIL> interesting: the letters were three among the thousands that EMAIL> UCLA computer account users were randomly assigned upon gaining EMAIL> access to the mainframe. I much prefer the fans' alternative EMAIL> explanations. 'My suggestion' had been this: EMAIL> May I share with you my assumption about the identity of IED? EMAIL> Just to see those letters put me in mind of the medieval scholastic EMAIL> QED. QED = quod erat demonstrandum, "which was to have been EMAIL> demonstrated," the somewhat self-congratulatory way in which EMAIL> scholastic argumentation would conclude itself. If that's the model, EMAIL> then IED would be "id est demonstratum" or "<thus> it has been EMAIL> demonstrated!," an even MORE assertive claim about what has been EMAIL> presented. This may not be right, but is entirely in character for EMAIL> IED, who makes sure that everybody knows the exact and correct truth EMAIL> of any matter. Andy Marvick's opinion of what IED means is of course well-informed, but as Evan Welch so correctly stated, "Previous attempts to guess the meaning behind The Symbols have proved fruitless, with IED refusing to be goaded into either confirming or denying theories presented by numerous intrepid philocanines." IED still has never said. But it is IED's view, we all know, that Kate Bush is God. She is his creator, therefore. (If there had been no Kate Bush, there would be no IED. I.E.D.) In the cosmos of any competent creator, nothing is meaningless. So the quest continues. Probably IED doesn't know the secret himself. "In excelsis deo," from which "In Excelsis Dea" derives <case is correct if recognized as dative>, comes from the first line of the Gloria in the Latin Mass: "Gloria in excelsis deo," "glory to God in the highest". The problem with 'in excelsis dea', taken as a stand-alone phrase, is that it makes the word 'dea', goddess, appear to be nominative. That would translate more like "Goddess in the highest <degree>" than like "Goddess in heaven." Perhaps that's why Andy includes it first in his list of favorites. But that's just Andy's view, not IED's. ............................................................................ Peter Manchester "C'mon, we all sing!" pmanchester@ccmail.sunysb.edu 72020.366@compuserv.com