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From: Ulrich Grepel <uli@intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 13:10:51 +0100
Subject: Re: Missing Freakout
To: love-hounds@uunet.UU.NET
Hi there, Reading that there are two versions of the L&A video, I just had to check the spot. I have the UK video tape and a recording from MTV Europe. Both are ( :-( ) without the tremor. ME WANT TO SEE IT! In the following description the scenes are referred to as scene 1 (Kate loosing contact to orb and sceptre, and finally tremoring) and scene 2 (Kate throwing her head up and then rotating her arms). The following is a study of single 1/25 second frames, viewed in digital single stepping video: - scene 1: Kate looses contact to the orb scene 2: not yet there - scene 1: Kate has lost contact to orb scene 2: not yet there - scene 1: Kate looses contact to sceptre scene 2: not yet there - scene 1: Kate has lost contact to both, fingers of both hands are pointing down in an 30 degree angle, her elbows are slightly bended, scene 2: The back of Kate can already be seen at the bottom - scene 1: Hands going inwards and slightly up, elbows more bended scene 2: no change - scene 1: Hands going forward and up, elbows even more bended, thumbs up scene 2: no change - scene 1: Hands going upwards, fingers inwards scene 2: no change - scene 1: no change scene 2: Kate's right elbow and her back are going up a little bit further - scene 1: the hands are stretching outwards fast, elbows almost straight again scene 2: Her back is rising slowly. - scene 1: no change scene 2: Her elbow's are going up - scene 1: Elbows going backwards, whole arms are turning forward, hands pointing about 30 degrees downwards scene 2: Kate throws her head up and can be seen only very slightly, her left elbow appears - scene 1: no change scene 2: More of her head can be seen, but not yet clearly - scene 1: no change scene 2: it now begins taking over control. Her hair can be identified, the light in the real background is shimmering through her hair that is sort of flying up. - scene 1: her ankles are going up while the fingertips remain in position, so the angle increases scene 2: Kate's forehead can be seen for the first time - roles of background and foreground change places, since now the former background has more than 50 % of the picture. scene 1: no change scene 2: Kate's face can be seen, but very verschwommen. Kate's chin is there, and also upper half of Ausschnitt - scene 1: no change scene 2: Kate's Ausschnitt completely visible, her right arm behind back, left arm down - scene 1: hands are again pointing forwards, her thumbs up scene 2: Kate's body rises further - scene 1: no change scene 2: Kate is rising further, her right arm begins to appear - scene 1: no change, but getting weaker, perhaps 10 percent of picture is scene 1: scene 2: Kate throws her head to the back - scene 1: her hands are pointing outwards again scene 2: she's almost standing straight now, head thrown to the back, first frame where her face can be seen clearly - scene 1: no change scene 2: now her body is straight, head further back - scene 1: no change scene 2: body 'more than straight', a little bit to the back - scene 1: hands turned so they point slightly downwards scene 2: left hand can be seen for the first time, head almost completely thrown to the back - scene 1: completely faded out, only scene 2 is now visible scene 2: left hand is rising Kate now begins putting her head straight onto her shoulders again, thereby lifting her right shoulder to begin rotating her arms. Some questions: - Is this the right position in the video? - Has someone recorded an emty-vee USA broadcast of the video? - You, who has recorded it, do you have a VCR with good single stepping capabilities? - You, who has answered the last questions with 'yes', can you check the way the MTV-USA video is different and tell us your results? - All those 'no changes' above: These would qualify as 'slow-mo', but they are not enough to bring in a significant amount of additional frames. Ideas? - While we are discussing single video frames: As we all (should) know, NTSC uses 30 frames per second, while PAL (and SECAM) only uses 25 frames. While watching the single frames of the videos, I could not see any mixture between two frames to adjust frequency. I often can see that on other video recordings from TV. Can anyone of you NTSC users verify if the single frames in the video are clear cut from one another or if they fade into one other? Finally, some remarks: - No, I'm not crazy. (Really? Am I the right person to answer this? ;-) ) Meredith says: > Maybe she didn't want the True Fans (TM) who would buy and dissect the video > to surmise that she's becoming prone to seizures in her old age? ;) - ok, I have dissected the edited video, but the idea of becoming prone to seizures only came across me after learning that this scene was changed at some time....... (when, oh when will the internet have enough capacity so that anyone can post a complete, digitized video??? (me want fiber!)) Uli