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From: point!akcs.katefans@ddsw1.mcs.com (Christopher DeVoe Williams)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 90 02:10 CST
Subject: Re: Chris' stuff
Chris here, Neal R Caldwell replied to my post: > Chris of Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago writes: >> Those who are concerned can rest easy that someone close to Kate >> is aware that not everyone is happy with the Box Set, though I'm >> afraid I may have made a bit of an ass of myself in the process. > And I hope that if this news is passed along, it's passed along with a > word of advice that trying to please everyone will lead to nothing but > grey hair. This advice would make sense if we were talking about an artistic decision. The Box Set is a commercial product, a different packaging of previously released work, and almost no creative energy was expended on it. >> [Discussion of why Kate wouldn't want her performance bootlegged] >> Lisa replied that "Well, it's a violation of trust, isn't it?" I >> believe I looked very skeptical as she changed her tack and said, >> "Well it's really the loss of control." > Bingo. How anyone could think that Kate could approve of people > making money by selling recordings of her that do not meet her > standards is beyond me. Bootlegging is a reasonable outlet for precisely such material. Contrary to record company propaganda, bootlegs have no effect on legitimate sales. Reaction to bootlegging varies from artist to artist, some fight against it by trying to suppress it, some release the material and kill the boot market (the bottom fell out of the Springsteen boot market following the release of the 3-record live collection), some co-operate with tapers and eliminate the market by allowing anyone to record them (The Grateful Dead has a special section just for taping the show). The "control" argument can keep an artist from ever performing.....which may be precisely what happened. If we believe the example of the new version of WH on "The Whole Story" Kate's early albums no longer "meet her standards". Should we send all of our copies of TKI back to EMI? An artist is often not the best judge of her own work. >> This brought about the question of who controlled the box set, >> Kate or EMI. She said EMI, and I pointed out that EMI said the final >> decision had been Kate's. She didn't reply to that and I said that >> Andy and Derek had put together a very good set that had been rejected. > It's doubtful that EMI ever saw Andy and Derek's list before the Anthology > was carved in stone. Their list also contained many items that would > have been difficult to secure rights to and others that obviously > would not have met Kate's standards without a great deal of work if at > all. Hogwash. Novercia Ltd. owns all rights to the recorded works of Kate Bush. EMI has these recordings in their vaults. The proof of this is the fact that the "bongo version" of "December Will Be Magic Again" was _accident- illy_ released on the "It's Christmas" record because the person sent down to the vaults to get it picked up the wrong one of two. The fact that EMI had a re-recorded version from a BBC-TV program and could release it with no problems, points out the silliness of this argument. Securing the rights to a publicly broadcast performance of an artist is not difficult to do, just time consuming at worst. Major record labels have people on staff who do this on a daily basis. Rights situations only get difficult when a number of artists on a project are on different labels with major differences in the performance rights sections of their contracts. Kate takes a far more casual approach to her work than most of us do. "Passing Through Air", while a very nice little song, pales by comparison to much of the earlier work. This was demonstrated at the convention by Kate's forgetting what single PTA was the B-side of. To her, all that stuff was produced by someone else, someone that she no longer is. >> I believe I may have gotten a little frantic in telling her that the >> Box Set was a "God-Damn rip-off". Well, it was a very emotional day. > Ahem. I've spoken about this before so I'll try not to belabor the > point. The Anthology may not have been the collection of unavailable > recordings that some would have liked to have seen but that does not > make it a rip-off. There is some question of highly variable pricing > but I doubt that Kate had any input on that. While in England we made a point of shopping around and comparing the box set with other artist's box set. My opinion was confirmed. A box set of Queen's entire output (at least 9 records, from looking through the bins) was less than _half_ the same store's price of Kate's set. The David Bowie "Sound and Vision" set is an example of a well put together set. Kate's fans deserved better. >> I'm in the process of writing a nice little note of apology, as was >> suggested by David Cross. Our feelings are not stopping us from buying >> _two_ box sets, though. > <sigh> Why do I have trouble mustering sympathy when you buy two of > something and then complain that it's a rip-off? I wasn't complaining that _I_ was ripped off. Only that the box set was a rip-off. We bought it, eyes open, at the best price we could get, from someone we liked. I didn't have to relate this incident..it was between Lisa and myself, but I felt obligated to post it, because, although I didn't claim that my remarks were on behalf of the Love-Hounds, they did reflect the feelings of many. Like it or not, Kate's insistence on control of every aspect of her career burdens her with the co-commitment responsibility for it. Kate (or her family) are the sole agency of control. EMI, for example never heard a note of "The Sensual World" until _after_ the final 2-track mix-down. According to the record industry mag. "HITS"'s annual "Artists Managers Agents" listing, Kate no longer even has an agent, Hillairy Walker is listed only as a "contact". Total control means total responsibility. The box set was intended for the fans, and their input was sought (from Peter and Krys and David) and was, for the most part, dis-regarded. >> The Club newsletter was an enormous rip-off for >> American fans for a number of years (one year passed without a single >> newsletter). > Now this I can agree with. A product was being sold that simply did > not exist for at least a year. Where fans expected to renew their > memberships after this year of silence? The period of the Club's existence that I am referring to was one that Kate had the most apparent control over. The club newsletter did not come out because, simply, Kate was to busy to be bothered. She was working on the album at the time and couldn't find the time to be interviewed, answer questions, or be photographed. In further defence of my actions, it is obvious to me that someone must have written to the club complaining about the situation. If no one had done so, it is possible that the situation could have remained as it was. If this seems unlikely consider that the club seems to have only one officer, Lisa, who puts the newsletter out and answers mail. The other activities associated with "clubs" are handled by the people from "Homeground". The convention was put on by "the Club" but all the labor and arrangements were handled by "Homeground". The needs of the fans could be far better served by combining the resources of the "Club" (pictures, access to Kate, high production quality) with those of HG (dedication, better relations with fans) to produce one very good magazine. The fact that this has not been done seems to indicate that either Kate does not want to give up control or the HG folks are too shy to ask. My gut feeling is that it is mostly the former. Chris Williams of Chris'n'Vickie katefans@world.std.com P.S. I've mailed this from a different site, but the above is still our address for receiving mail.