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From: ed@das.llnl.gov (Edward Suranyi)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 90 12:16:50 PDT
Subject: Loren Petrich responds!
Below is Loren Petrich's response to the Kate/Madonna thread. I just sent her all the stuff that has appeared on .gaffa, as she asked. Ed ed@das.llnl.gov ------------------------------------------------------------ Article 49965 of rec.music.misc: Path: lll-winken!tristan!loren From: loren@tristan.llnl.gov (Loren Petrich) Newsgroups: rec.music.misc Subject: Re: MADONNA on MTV [all day] Wed, Aug. 1 Message-ID: <65663@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Date: 1 Aug 90 02:20:34 GMT References: <JP5$A4^@rpi.edu> <65592@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <715$R#_@rpi.edu> Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV Reply-To: loren@tristan.UUCP (Loren Petrich) Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Lines: 94 In article <715$R#_@rpi.edu> jimcat@itsgw.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes: >In article <65592@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> loren@tristan.UUCP (Loren Petrich) writes: >> [on Kate Bush == Madonna???] > > But to hear this comparison made... well... > > I'm sorry, but I just can't hold it back... > > <FLAME ON> > > HOW DARE YOU SO MUCH AS MENTION MADONNA IN THE SAME *BREATH* AS >KATE BUSH?! > > <FLAME OFF> > > Whew. It feels so good to get that out of my system. Now let me >try and be a bit more rational about the issue. Is it that horrible??? Did I commit an unforgivable sin??? I hope no Kate Bush fan is going to put a price on my head for _this_. Or try to burn me at the stake. > Madonna is, first and foremost, a pop artist. Her major goals are >to become a legend in the public eye, an idol, an icon, a symbol >which evokes a universal image in the minds of anyone exposed to her. >She wants recognition. Oh yeah, and big bucks. Who wouldn't want to be appreciated by the people around oneself? And who wouldn't want a lot of money??? Would you like to try living without money? And what's wrong with money? Are you a Communist? :-):-) And how is Kate Bush fundamentally different?? > [how Kate Bush's work is supposedly pure artistry and > Madonna's work is supposedly crowd-pleasing -- how Kate Bush's > work is an expression of herself and Madonna's isn't] Don't be too sure. Madonna also expresses herself in her work. > To sum up, I think Kate Bush's artistic style as opposed to >Madonna's is analogous to a Van Gogh painting as opposed to >the cover of "People" magazine. How does that work out? I know that Madonna is sometimes unsubtle, but... >My logic here may not be watertight, but I think you get the >idea. It's actually a very emotional issue for me, and I think >a lot of Kate Bush fans feel the same way. If I had this sort >of reaction, I can't wait to see what some of the dyed-in-the- >wool Love-Hounds have to say when they get a hold of your >article. By all means. You are certainly entitled to have it posted on rec.music.gaffa. Tell me what they all think of it over there. I'd love to find out what they think. I hope that they can come up with less flamey responses than I have seen here. >... But please. When you >make comparisons to Kate Bush, you're treading on sacred >ground. Please take care to treat it with respect, or you >may incur the wrath of those who worship there. So that's what it is all about. The biggest of the Kate Bush fans is going to try to put a price on my head. Or else try to burn me at the stake. I had hoped that I had been polite in my posting, but when it comes down to this... If there is anything I would prefer, it is that you would try to explain some of Kate Bush's artistry to all us people of rec.music.misc -- including me. ^ Loren Petrich, the Master Blaster \ ^ / loren@sunlight.llnl.gov \ ^ / One may need to route through any of: \^/ <<<<<<<<+>>>>>>>> lll-lcc.llnl.gov /v\ lll-crg.llnl.gov / v \ star.stanford.edu / v \ v For example, use: loren%sunlight.llnl.gov@star.stanford.edu "What do you MEAN it's not in the computer?!?" -- Madonna