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From: datta@vacs.uwp.wisc.edu (David Datta)
Date: 21 Feb 90 06:39:57 GMT
Subject: EM Survey 4 (Part 02 of 19)
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Eclectic Music Survey #4 Results Survey Posting February 1990 Part 2 of 19 (Thru Azuma) Laurie Anderson "Big Science" and "Mister Heartbreak" captivated me totally. I haven't been able to get into the new album, "Strange Angels", as much; it seems too lush, and I want it to be more percussive. - Ken Josenhans 13020KRJ@MSU.BitNet 'How to make random noises and odd lyrics into beautiful music.' Our new correspondance course comes with a set of albums to further explain our views.... - Wingerde van FJ fjvwing@cs.vu.nl Considering the fact that I listen to a lot of Kate Bush, Laurie Anderson's albums are often recommended to me. However, the stuff I've heard souns a little bit *too* weird for my tastes. - Valerie valerie@athena.mit.edu Exceptionally strange ... but very innovative and good. - Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu Her _U.S.A. I - IV_ was her best. Very funny and very interesting. Everything else seems derivative of this. - John M. Relph relph@presto.ig.com Hope she doesn't get any more mainstream. - Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK I don't own any of her albums yet, but when I get rich, I'll by them all. - John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com I liked her intros for _Alive From Off Center_ - Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU I love the "Big Science" and the "Walking the Dog" single. She went downhill a bit after that - "Mr. Heartbreak" isn't quite as good. Haven't heard "Strange Angels". - Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu I wanted you. I wanted you. Leave it to others for more. - Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com Interesting artist, but I can't stand more than about 10 minutes of her art. - Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET Intriguing obscurist avantpop . . . - Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu More mellowed lately, with less vocoding and unusual violin arrangements. If you can find the four-cassette recording of United States, get that. Now has Bobby McFerrin for some backup vocals on her new album. - Kevin Martin sigma@pawl.rpi.edu The woman who made avant-garde safe for the masses. Slyly witty and inventive in all aspects of recording and performing: instrumentation, structure, presentation. - sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU Worth more as a performance artist than as a musician, IMHO. Some find her pretentious and boring; others, humorous and inventive. - Anton C Shepps (Tony) rochester!moscom!telesci!ashepps%ll-xn.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu Anderson Wakeman Bruford & Howe Their current (and only) album is excellent. I'm looking forward to their next album. They are very much like the old Yes that produced 'Close to the Edge', 'Relayer', etc. - Frank J. Schima francis@pawl.rpi.edu Great stuff unless you make the mistake of listening to the words. - Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Hasn't the record-buying public had enough of these dinosaurs? - Valerie valerie@athena.mit.edu Includes members of Yes from the old days (1973 to about 1976) excluding Chris Squire. Regardless of opinions from the previous survey, I like their music. The video for 'Brother of Mine' is pretty interesting. - Christopher Waldemar Bochna cb2w+@andrew.cmu.edu Live, they play great Yes music. I've heard that their album is a bit disco-ish, i.e. disappointing. - Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu Only song of theirs I heard was "Brother of Mine". I liked the way it switched several times into different songs, so to speak. I'd like to know if their album is worth buying. I also thought the video for the above song was good, though it was confusing. - Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu Rightful heirs to the name of "Yes". Intensely intellectualized rock with classical underpinnings. - sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU Sigh. Just when we thought we were free from New Age lyrics in popmusic. - Wingerde van FJ fjvwing@cs.vu.nl Superb use of 1980 hi-tech, electronic sound used within the progressive style of Yes. - TRM900@PSUVM.PSU.edu Adam Ant Came to prominence during the 15 seconds of fame for "New Romantic" music. Tried on various adventurous roles: Indian, pirate, etc. His band featured heavy drumming and lost of whoops and such to add that "primitive" flavor. - sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU Early 80's progressive. Clever videos. - David Caldwell macs!dfc@bikini.cis.ufl.edu Early 80's stuff was great. True new wave, not this stuff we hear today that they tell us is new wave. Hard to explain his music. "Stand and Deliver" is his best song IMHO. Wait, what about the ANTS? :-) Recommendations: _Prince Charming_ - Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman) Great beat, nice catchy songs. His concerts are spoiled by girls flinging themselves at him. - John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com I enjoyed some of his stuff, "King of the Wild Frontier"etc., dressing up in pirate costumes, 2 drummers and silly lyrics. He started the short-lived "new Romantic" revival. - Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu I hear his music and its 1981 all over again. - Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com I think most people seem to forget that Adam (and Bow Wow Wow) influenced a lot of people with _Kings of the Wild Frontier_. - John M. Relph relph@presto.ig.com I wonder what Stuart Goddard is doing now. I remember when Adam and the Ants were the new craze at our school..1980 that was. And then they were even more successful in 1981. Why do these two years seem to be so good in terms of music? Chart music nowadays is just bland in comparison. - Stephen K Mulrine smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK Where'd he disappear to anyway? (Nevermind, I saw a new 12" from him last week.) Love the Burundi beat on those old Ants discs . . . - Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu Aphrodite's Child VanGellis's early group, supposedly weird synth stuff. - Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu Arkenstone & White Saw them in a free concert in a mall. Quite good. Music with a nice, happy feeling to it. - Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman) _Islands_ is great. - Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU They have just one album at present, on Narada Equinox, called "Island" (1989). The tracks all vary in musical flavour, and one gets the impression that the pair are exploring rhythms and harmonies indigenous to various Island nations - something not completely obvious from the track titles(!). The melodies are joyful and far from simplistic. The percussion and drumming is sensitive and meaningful. Most of the music is moderately upbeat. There are alot of instruments on this album, and the instrumentations chosen for each track are near perfect. Arkenstone was trained as a classical pianist for many years, and as a result knows his music/harmony very well. This is not a "meditation" album by any means. I recommend it highly! - Simon Lea csc458@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca David Arkenstone Arkenstone has two albums at present. His solo project, "Valley In The Clouds" (1987) is mostly electronic. "Valley" is vastly different to "Island" (1989, Arkenstone with Andrew White). It is more sedate and repetative. But these are not necessarily flaws. The music remains interesting due to Arkenstones superb abilities as a composer and harmonist. There are a few standout tracks, such as "The Sun Girl", "Princess", and "Night Wind". As on "Island", Arkenstones instrumentations are "bang on", and a pleasure to listen to on "Valley". Arkenstone was trained as a classical pianist for many years, and as a result knows his music/harmony very well. I recommend "Valley In The Clouds" if you like the music of Vangelis, Bruce Mitchell, or any other "Eclectic" artist. I also recommend "Island" to anyone who likes instrumental music. - Simon Lea csc458@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca Fairly good synthesizer-laden New Age music, from what I've heard on the radio. - Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK Haven't heard any particular album, just cuts off the radio, and from a mini concert. His stuff is quite happy. - Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman) _Valley in the Clouds_ was a little sleepy compared to _Islands_ by Arkenstone and White, I think that the collaboration does him good. - Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Armando I can remember his Acid House productions. But now the London Dance Music scene is in search of new directions, after the Ska House fiasco. - Hussein Yahia hussein@bora.inria.fr Joan Armatrading Back in 1980 when our album rock station (WNEW-FM) wasn't busy trying to compete with its classic rock competition they actually played her, "Me Myself I" was a good tune but not into her in general. - Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com Her first album(?) was fantastic, the one with "Down to Zero" on it. Her voice is deep, strong, husky. Don't know about much else. - Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu Her third album ("Joan Armatrading") is a perennial favorite; I've never been able to get deeply into her other work. - Ken Josenhans 13020KRJ@MSU.BitNet She should get more credit than Tracy Chapman, but she's not always politically correct, and if there's one thing the music industry can't stand it's a talented black female folk/rocker who is NOT politically correct. - Anton C Shepps (Tony) rochester!moscom!telesci!ashepps%ll-xn.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu Singer/songwriter known for deeply incisive, if sometimes oblique, tales of love and other emotions. Also can rock bigtime when the occasion demands. - sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU Arson Garden 10000 maniacs-ish - del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu Art Ensemble Of Chicago lester bowies 7Ts radical free-form jazz groups. improv. - del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu Art Of Noise "Who's Afraid of the Art of Noise" was probably their best studio album. "Below the Waste" is disappointing, however. - Christopher Waldemar Bochna cb2w+@andrew.cmu.edu Art of Noise was begat by the Fairlight and other such sampling keyboards. Originally, the group concentrated on creating songs out of "found" noises. Surprisingly, much of their early works seem to stand the test of time; this is generally not true of music that is created just to highlight a new technology (i.e. "Popcorn" sounds tremendously dated). I believe this is because Art Of Noise have actual songwriting and performing talent. Unfortunately, their more recent works are heavy and lack the energy and innovation of the earlier albums. - Anton C Shepps (Tony) rochester!moscom!telesci!ashepps%ll-xn.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu classic 80's technodweebs - "Who's Afraid Of..." is an absolute masterpiece but they've been turning into shit ever since. - Jon Drukman jsd@GAFFA.MIT.EDU Ha-HAAAA! Gods, bless them all. If only they'd stuck with Trevor Horn they'd still be producing miracles instead of merely interesting work. - Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu I liked the 'Paranoimia' and 'Dragnet' singles. They've got an interesting sound, but I can't say I've been very keen on anything else I've heard by them. - Alan Crawford awrc%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK Liked "Close to the Edit" for the sheer funkiness and because I like weird pan-flute effects (or whatever it is at the end). Haven't heard enough of them. - Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu Nifty sounds. What happened to them? - Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com These people are great!!!! They use sampled sounds to a very good use. They have mastered the art of using strange samples (car noises, footsteps) in music. My all time favorite by them has got to be all the versions of "Moments In Love". Their later stuff is quite a bit different than their earlier music, but it is all quite good and entertaining. Recommendations: _Who's Afraid of..._, _Best of_, _In No Sense, Nonsense_ - Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman) Yuppie heaven - John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com Arvo Part hungarian modern classical. voice, disonance, organ. brilliant - del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu Robert Ashley ( Perfect Lives/ Private Parts, Atalanta: Acts of God, other works; mostly on the Lovely Music label ) Cross a television script, Philip Glass, Laurie Anderson, stream-of-consci- ousness. Add great riffs on a cheesy organ ( Kimball? ) by "Blue" Gene Tyranny, and appearances by Peter Gordon and Jill Kroesen and others of the "downtown" scene. Throw in a few mottos. Now throw away this description and go *LISTEN* to this stuff. I don't do it justice. Quote: "Happy she is, the travelling salesmen say, but boogie- woogie she is not....She has learned that short ideas repeated massage the brain." - jim murphy 21329JM@MSU.BitNet Asia '70s sludge-rock retreads. Really disgusting. - sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU After several listenings to the first album, the Howe and Palmer flavors can be heard influencing the music. Unfortunately, the quality of the latter albums seems to go by the wayside. - TRM900@PSUVM.PSU.edu Considered to be Top 40. "Asia" and "Alpha" were OK. Steve Howe wasn't on "Astra", and coincidentally, it was their worst album. - Christopher Waldemar Bochna cb2w+@andrew.cmu.edu First album is pretty good, the other two are okay. "Alpha" is better than "Astra" tho'. The albums are pretty much straight forward rock. My problem with Asia is that they didn't give Steve Howe anything to do. Where is he on the albums? He is such a great guitar player, but I think Geoff Downes and John Wetton wanted to steal the show. Recommendations: _Asia_ - Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman) Good band, Of three albums #1 was the best #3 was the worst! - David Caldwell macs!dfc@bikini.cis.ufl.edu Great logo, pity about the songs. - Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK Hey, dinosaurs are really popular now, so why not a dinosaur band. I will admit a guilty pleasure in liking their stuff. - Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU It sounded too good to be true, that Steve Howe from Yes, John Wetton from King Crimson, and (?) drummer were getting together......and it turned out to be commercial garbage! - Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu Most people find Asia to be the son of Satan, the first supergroup to really prove that talented artists will always eventually sell out and wind up performing arena rock. In actual fact, John Wetton was the true source of evil, and as the unspoken leader, he controlled the group's direction. Close studies of Wetton's solo album versus Steve Howe's solo albums bear this out. As a member of Asia, Howe's guitar work had a lot of energy on the first album, but he lost interest in the group by the second album, perhpas because of Wetton's heavy-handedness. By the end of their second tour, personnel changes made it difficult to know who was really in the group, and by the time they released their third album, no-one really cared anymore. - Anton C Shepps (Tony) rochester!moscom!telesci!ashepps%ll-xn.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu OK, they were heavily hyped and force-fed down everybody's throats by the radio stations. They were still pretty darn good, at least before Steve Howe split. - Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK Superflop. - John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com used to like them a lot, but perhaps it was just the heat of the moment. Oh well, only time will tell. - Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com Asleep At The Wheel Country Swing, et al, in a big band setting. Lots of humor in song selections as well as killer licks. - sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU I like their song "the letter that Johnny Walker Read" back when I was into country in '`75. - Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com leaves me.... - Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU They did a great live set here 15 years ago. Great acid-bluegrass. - Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu Associates One of the best 'new romantic' groups to emerge in the early eighties, they split up before they could become really successful. They reformed with a new line-up but didn't get anywhere. Lead singer Billy Mackenzie has a fantastic voice with an enormous range. He's since worked with Yello on a couple of albums as a backing singer and is, I believe, currently recording a joint effort with them. - Alan Crawford awrc%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK Rick Astley Best move he made for boosting his ,up to now non-existent, credibilty was leaving the PWL-stable. Wonder what he will do without Stock ,Aitken & Waterman. - Wingerde van FJ fjvwing@cs.vu.nl Fortunately no-one knows what has happened to Rick Astley lately. - Hans Huttel hans%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK Good voice but his songs need to go. He and Harry Connick Jr. might make a good team though. - Chris Chavez ccmchris@pollux.ucdavis.edu Has sunk into obscurity. Jason Donovan has taken over for him completely. In fact, Jase's first single, "Too Many Broken Hearts" was written for Astley who didn't like it. - Stephen K Mulrine smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK His voice doesn't match his body. - Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu Pantywaist. - Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu Pop fluff at it's fluffiest. I tend to discredit artists that become successful by other people's talents (i.e. those people that write all his music, I forgot their names). A comedian that I once saw on MTV (I forget his name, too) put it best: (sung to the tune of "Never Gonna Give You Up") "Haven't reached puberty Everyone makes fun of me Big black voice In the body of Howdy Doody" - Valerie valerie@athena.mit.edu Z-100 had a good parody of him to the tune of one of his songs saying "all my songs sound the same". - Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com Aswad & Sly And Robbie Their classic "3 babylon" is on some early reggae compilations. A good classic reggae sound. - Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu Dan Aykroyd "This is a city of criiiiiiiime . . . " - Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu A Blues Brother... supposedly, his movies during 1980 were the highest grossing of any other actor, save Harrison Ford. - Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET Passable whiteboy emulation of Delta/Chicago blues. - sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU Very good on the Blues Brothers soundtrack. - Christopher Waldemar Bochna cb2w+@andrew.cmu.edu Aztec Camera first wave of scotch 8Ts pop. _oblivious_ is still a great tune, the latest release _love_ is less great. - del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu Azuma Great remake of Montego Bay with a superb video. - Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET -- -Dave datta@vacs.uwp.wisc.edu ....uwm!uwpvacs!datta uwpvacs.UUCP!datta@cs.wisc.edu