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From: datta@vacs.uwp.wisc.edu (David Datta)
Date: 21 Feb 90 06:39:57 GMT
Subject: EM Survey 4 (Part 02 of 19)
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Eclectic Music Survey #4 Results
Survey Posting February 1990
Part 2 of 19 (Thru Azuma)
Laurie Anderson
"Big Science" and "Mister Heartbreak" captivated me totally. I haven't
been able to get into the new album, "Strange Angels", as much; it seems
too lush, and I want it to be more percussive.
- Ken Josenhans 13020KRJ@MSU.BitNet
'How to make random noises and odd lyrics into beautiful music.' Our new
correspondance course comes with a set of albums to further explain our
views....
- Wingerde van FJ fjvwing@cs.vu.nl
Considering the fact that I listen to a lot of Kate Bush, Laurie
Anderson's albums are often recommended to me. However, the stuff I've
heard souns a little bit *too* weird for my tastes.
- Valerie valerie@athena.mit.edu
Exceptionally strange ... but very innovative and good.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Her _U.S.A. I - IV_ was her best. Very funny and very interesting.
Everything else seems derivative of this.
- John M. Relph relph@presto.ig.com
Hope she doesn't get any more mainstream.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
I don't own any of her albums yet, but when I get rich, I'll by them
all.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
I liked her intros for _Alive From Off Center_
- Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
I love the "Big Science" and the "Walking the Dog" single. She went
downhill a bit after that - "Mr. Heartbreak" isn't quite as good.
Haven't heard "Strange Angels".
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
I wanted you. I wanted you. Leave it to others for more.
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
Interesting artist, but I can't stand more than about 10 minutes of her
art.
- Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET
Intriguing obscurist avantpop . . .
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
More mellowed lately, with less vocoding and unusual violin
arrangements. If you can find the four-cassette recording of United
States, get that. Now has Bobby McFerrin for some backup vocals on her
new album.
- Kevin Martin sigma@pawl.rpi.edu
The woman who made avant-garde safe for the masses. Slyly witty and
inventive in all aspects of recording and performing: instrumentation,
structure, presentation.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Worth more as a performance artist than as a musician, IMHO. Some find
her pretentious and boring; others, humorous and inventive.
- Anton C Shepps (Tony)
rochester!moscom!telesci!ashepps%ll-xn.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu
Anderson Wakeman Bruford & Howe
Their current (and only) album is excellent. I'm looking forward to
their next album. They are very much like the old Yes that produced
'Close to the Edge', 'Relayer', etc.
- Frank J. Schima francis@pawl.rpi.edu
Great stuff unless you make the mistake of listening to the words.
- Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
Hasn't the record-buying public had enough of these dinosaurs?
- Valerie valerie@athena.mit.edu
Includes members of Yes from the old days (1973 to about 1976) excluding
Chris Squire. Regardless of opinions from the previous survey, I like
their music. The video for 'Brother of Mine' is pretty interesting.
- Christopher Waldemar Bochna cb2w+@andrew.cmu.edu
Live, they play great Yes music. I've heard that their album is a bit
disco-ish, i.e. disappointing.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
Only song of theirs I heard was "Brother of Mine". I liked the way it
switched several times into different songs, so to speak. I'd like to
know if their album is worth buying. I also thought the video for the
above song was good, though it was confusing.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Rightful heirs to the name of "Yes". Intensely intellectualized rock
with classical underpinnings.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Sigh. Just when we thought we were free from New Age lyrics in popmusic.
- Wingerde van FJ fjvwing@cs.vu.nl
Superb use of 1980 hi-tech, electronic sound used within the progressive
style of Yes.
- TRM900@PSUVM.PSU.edu
Adam Ant
Came to prominence during the 15 seconds of fame for "New Romantic"
music. Tried on various adventurous roles: Indian, pirate, etc. His band
featured heavy drumming and lost of whoops and such to add that
"primitive" flavor.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Early 80's progressive. Clever videos.
- David Caldwell macs!dfc@bikini.cis.ufl.edu
Early 80's stuff was great. True new wave, not this stuff we hear today
that they tell us is new wave. Hard to explain his music. "Stand and
Deliver" is his best song IMHO. Wait, what about the ANTS? :-)
Recommendations: _Prince Charming_
- Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman)
Great beat, nice catchy songs. His concerts are spoiled by girls
flinging themselves at him.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
I enjoyed some of his stuff, "King of the Wild Frontier"etc., dressing
up in pirate costumes, 2 drummers and silly lyrics. He started the
short-lived "new Romantic" revival.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
I hear his music and its 1981 all over again.
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
I think most people seem to forget that Adam (and Bow Wow Wow)
influenced a lot of people with _Kings of the Wild Frontier_.
- John M. Relph relph@presto.ig.com
I wonder what Stuart Goddard is doing now. I remember when Adam and the
Ants were the new craze at our school..1980 that was. And then they were
even more successful in 1981. Why do these two years seem to be so good
in terms of music? Chart music nowadays is just bland in comparison.
- Stephen K Mulrine
smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Where'd he disappear to anyway? (Nevermind, I saw a new 12" from him
last week.) Love the Burundi beat on those old Ants discs . . .
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
Aphrodite's Child
VanGellis's early group, supposedly weird synth stuff.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
Arkenstone & White
Saw them in a free concert in a mall. Quite good. Music with a nice,
happy feeling to it.
- Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman)
_Islands_ is great.
- Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
They have just one album at present, on Narada Equinox, called "Island"
(1989). The tracks all vary in musical flavour, and one gets the
impression that the pair are exploring rhythms and harmonies indigenous
to various Island nations - something not completely obvious from the
track titles(!). The melodies are joyful and far from simplistic. The
percussion and drumming is sensitive and meaningful. Most of the music
is moderately upbeat. There are alot of instruments on this album, and
the instrumentations chosen for each track are near perfect. Arkenstone
was trained as a classical pianist for many years, and as a result knows
his music/harmony very well. This is not a "meditation" album by any
means. I recommend it highly!
- Simon Lea csc458@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca
David Arkenstone
Arkenstone has two albums at present. His solo project, "Valley In The
Clouds" (1987) is mostly electronic. "Valley" is vastly different to
"Island" (1989, Arkenstone with Andrew White). It is more sedate and
repetative. But these are not necessarily flaws. The music remains
interesting due to Arkenstones superb abilities as a composer and
harmonist. There are a few standout tracks, such as "The Sun Girl",
"Princess", and "Night Wind". As on "Island", Arkenstones
instrumentations are "bang on", and a pleasure to listen to on "Valley".
Arkenstone was trained as a classical pianist for many years, and as a
result knows his music/harmony very well. I recommend "Valley In The
Clouds" if you like the music of Vangelis, Bruce Mitchell, or any other
"Eclectic" artist. I also recommend "Island" to anyone who likes
instrumental music.
- Simon Lea csc458@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca
Fairly good synthesizer-laden New Age music, from what I've heard on the
radio.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Haven't heard any particular album, just cuts off the radio, and from a
mini concert. His stuff is quite happy.
- Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman)
_Valley in the Clouds_ was a little sleepy compared to _Islands_ by
Arkenstone and White, I think that the collaboration does him good.
- Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
Armando
I can remember his Acid House productions. But now the London Dance
Music scene is in search of new directions, after the Ska House fiasco.
- Hussein Yahia hussein@bora.inria.fr
Joan Armatrading
Back in 1980 when our album rock station (WNEW-FM) wasn't busy trying to
compete with its classic rock competition they actually played her, "Me
Myself I" was a good tune but not into her in general.
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
Her first album(?) was fantastic, the one with "Down to Zero" on it. Her
voice is deep, strong, husky. Don't know about much else.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
Her third album ("Joan Armatrading") is a perennial favorite; I've never
been able to get deeply into her other work.
- Ken Josenhans 13020KRJ@MSU.BitNet
She should get more credit than Tracy Chapman, but she's not always
politically correct, and if there's one thing the music industry can't
stand it's a talented black female folk/rocker who is NOT politically
correct.
- Anton C Shepps (Tony)
rochester!moscom!telesci!ashepps%ll-xn.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu
Singer/songwriter known for deeply incisive, if sometimes oblique, tales
of love and other emotions. Also can rock bigtime when the occasion
demands.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Arson Garden
10000 maniacs-ish
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Art Ensemble Of Chicago
lester bowies 7Ts radical free-form jazz groups. improv.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Art Of Noise
"Who's Afraid of the Art of Noise" was probably their best studio album.
"Below the Waste" is disappointing, however.
- Christopher Waldemar Bochna cb2w+@andrew.cmu.edu
Art of Noise was begat by the Fairlight and other such sampling
keyboards. Originally, the group concentrated on creating songs out of
"found" noises. Surprisingly, much of their early works seem to stand
the test of time; this is generally not true of music that is created
just to highlight a new technology (i.e. "Popcorn" sounds tremendously
dated). I believe this is because Art Of Noise have actual songwriting
and performing talent. Unfortunately, their more recent works are heavy
and lack the energy and innovation of the earlier albums.
- Anton C Shepps (Tony)
rochester!moscom!telesci!ashepps%ll-xn.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu
classic 80's technodweebs - "Who's Afraid Of..." is an absolute
masterpiece but they've been turning into shit ever since.
- Jon Drukman jsd@GAFFA.MIT.EDU
Ha-HAAAA! Gods, bless them all. If only they'd stuck with Trevor Horn
they'd still be producing miracles instead of merely interesting work.
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
I liked the 'Paranoimia' and 'Dragnet' singles. They've got an
interesting sound, but I can't say I've been very keen on anything else
I've heard by them.
- Alan Crawford awrc%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Liked "Close to the Edit" for the sheer funkiness and because I like
weird pan-flute effects (or whatever it is at the end). Haven't heard
enough of them.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Nifty sounds. What happened to them?
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
These people are great!!!! They use sampled sounds to a very good use.
They have mastered the art of using strange samples (car noises,
footsteps) in music. My all time favorite by them has got to be all the
versions of "Moments In Love". Their later stuff is quite a bit
different than their earlier music, but it is all quite good and
entertaining. Recommendations: _Who's Afraid of..._, _Best of_, _In No
Sense, Nonsense_
- Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman)
Yuppie heaven
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
Arvo Part
hungarian modern classical. voice, disonance, organ. brilliant
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Robert Ashley
( Perfect Lives/ Private Parts, Atalanta: Acts of God, other works;
mostly on the Lovely Music label ) Cross a television script, Philip
Glass, Laurie Anderson, stream-of-consci- ousness. Add great riffs on a
cheesy organ ( Kimball? ) by "Blue" Gene Tyranny, and appearances by
Peter Gordon and Jill Kroesen and others of the "downtown" scene. Throw
in a few mottos. Now throw away this description and go *LISTEN* to this
stuff. I don't do it justice. Quote: "Happy she is, the travelling
salesmen say, but boogie- woogie she is not....She has learned that
short ideas repeated massage the brain."
- jim murphy 21329JM@MSU.BitNet
Asia
'70s sludge-rock retreads. Really disgusting.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
After several listenings to the first album, the Howe and Palmer flavors
can be heard influencing the music. Unfortunately, the quality of the
latter albums seems to go by the wayside.
- TRM900@PSUVM.PSU.edu
Considered to be Top 40. "Asia" and "Alpha" were OK. Steve Howe wasn't
on "Astra", and coincidentally, it was their worst album.
- Christopher Waldemar Bochna cb2w+@andrew.cmu.edu
First album is pretty good, the other two are okay. "Alpha" is better
than "Astra" tho'. The albums are pretty much straight forward rock. My
problem with Asia is that they didn't give Steve Howe anything to do.
Where is he on the albums? He is such a great guitar player, but I think
Geoff Downes and John Wetton wanted to steal the show. Recommendations:
_Asia_
- Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman)
Good band, Of three albums #1 was the best #3 was the worst!
- David Caldwell macs!dfc@bikini.cis.ufl.edu
Great logo, pity about the songs.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Hey, dinosaurs are really popular now, so why not a dinosaur band. I
will admit a guilty pleasure in liking their stuff.
- Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
It sounded too good to be true, that Steve Howe from Yes, John Wetton
from King Crimson, and (?) drummer were getting together......and it
turned out to be commercial garbage!
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
Most people find Asia to be the son of Satan, the first supergroup to
really prove that talented artists will always eventually sell out and
wind up performing arena rock. In actual fact, John Wetton was the true
source of evil, and as the unspoken leader, he controlled the group's
direction. Close studies of Wetton's solo album versus Steve Howe's solo
albums bear this out. As a member of Asia, Howe's guitar work had a lot
of energy on the first album, but he lost interest in the group by the
second album, perhpas because of Wetton's heavy-handedness. By the end
of their second tour, personnel changes made it difficult to know who
was really in the group, and by the time they released their third
album, no-one really cared anymore.
- Anton C Shepps (Tony)
rochester!moscom!telesci!ashepps%ll-xn.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu
OK, they were heavily hyped and force-fed down everybody's throats by
the radio stations. They were still pretty darn good, at least before
Steve Howe split.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Superflop.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
used to like them a lot, but perhaps it was just the heat of the moment.
Oh well, only time will tell.
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
Asleep At The Wheel
Country Swing, et al, in a big band setting. Lots of humor in song
selections as well as killer licks.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
I like their song "the letter that Johnny Walker Read" back when I was
into country in '`75.
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
leaves me....
- Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
They did a great live set here 15 years ago. Great acid-bluegrass.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
Associates
One of the best 'new romantic' groups to emerge in the early eighties,
they split up before they could become really successful. They reformed
with a new line-up but didn't get anywhere. Lead singer Billy Mackenzie
has a fantastic voice with an enormous range. He's since worked with
Yello on a couple of albums as a backing singer and is, I believe,
currently recording a joint effort with them.
- Alan Crawford awrc%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Rick Astley
Best move he made for boosting his ,up to now non-existent, credibilty
was leaving the PWL-stable. Wonder what he will do without Stock ,Aitken
& Waterman.
- Wingerde van FJ fjvwing@cs.vu.nl
Fortunately no-one knows what has happened to Rick Astley lately.
- Hans Huttel hans%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Good voice but his songs need to go. He and Harry Connick Jr. might make
a good team though.
- Chris Chavez ccmchris@pollux.ucdavis.edu
Has sunk into obscurity. Jason Donovan has taken over for him
completely. In fact, Jase's first single, "Too Many Broken Hearts" was
written for Astley who didn't like it.
- Stephen K Mulrine
smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
His voice doesn't match his body.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Pantywaist.
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
Pop fluff at it's fluffiest. I tend to discredit artists that become
successful by other people's talents (i.e. those people that write all
his music, I forgot their names). A comedian that I once saw on MTV (I
forget his name, too) put it best: (sung to the tune of "Never Gonna
Give You Up") "Haven't reached puberty Everyone makes fun of me Big
black voice In the body of Howdy Doody"
- Valerie valerie@athena.mit.edu
Z-100 had a good parody of him to the tune of one of his songs saying
"all my songs sound the same".
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
Aswad & Sly And Robbie
Their classic "3 babylon" is on some early reggae compilations. A good
classic reggae sound.
- Chris Koenigsberg ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
Dan Aykroyd
"This is a city of criiiiiiiime . . . "
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
A Blues Brother... supposedly, his movies during 1980 were the highest
grossing of any other actor, save Harrison Ford.
- Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET
Passable whiteboy emulation of Delta/Chicago blues.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Very good on the Blues Brothers soundtrack.
- Christopher Waldemar Bochna cb2w+@andrew.cmu.edu
Aztec Camera
first wave of scotch 8Ts pop. _oblivious_ is still a great tune, the
latest release _love_ is less great.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Azuma
Great remake of Montego Bay with a superb video.
- Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET
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