Gaffaweb >
Love & Anger >
1990-01 >
[ Date Index |
Thread Index ]
[Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next]
From: JROSSI@AAMRL.AF.MIL
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 90 10:33 EDT
Subject: Madonna the Anti-Kat
About 4 years ago I was flamed for making a remark similar to this, and I probably shouldn't get into this here butttttt...... First a question.. What exactly is so repulsive about Madonna? I mean, I really dont find her to be overly attractive to me but I wouldn't go so far as to describe her as repulsive. Clearly her image is quite slutty and she obviously offends a lot of people with her clothes, romantic affairs and quasi-religious nature of her videos, however she is just being Madonna. As for her dancing ability, she's no Ginger Rogers, but then again neither is Kate. Madonna may just witther but she does it in synch with the music, something which Kate appears to be, at times, incapable of. I suppose that an equally reasonable interpretation is that the Kate personna requires her to pseudointellectually treat her audiences to aloof dancing sequences symbolic of her great creativity. I'm not putting Kate down here, I enjoy her videos and I agree that there is no real comparison between her music or vocal talents and those of Madonna. Its just that Kate and Madonna are symbols for two very opposed life structures. In discussing the Kate/Madonna dichotomy with a professional PhD female at work I was offered an interesting observation. Much of the perceived personna associated with any performing icon has as much to do with cultural mindset and the self image of the perceiver. For instance, if we imagine what kinds of people would be naturally drawn to Kate, we might be able to summarize by evaluating the personalities of the combined group of Love-Hounds. One thing immediately jumps to mind is that in order to be discussing this issue at all, each of us must be sitting in front of a computer terminal. If it wasn't for the fact that this is the function of a computer network, it could be considered quite remarkable that whatever the number of us who enjoy Kate's music is also spend a substantial time typing on computer terminals. Somehow, I find it not too surprising that Kate would write songs about love fantasys and computers. In as much as she knows of the existence of this group, she surely must recognise her impact and therefore naturally has written a song which will have some intellectual appeal to a known quantity of her fans. It is very unlikely that Madonna would have success with a similar concept (although now that I have written that I'm not so sure considering how Madonna might handle that concept in a video). Similarly, if we examine the fuckability quotient of the two stars (this isn't intended to be sexist, I'm sure that many female fans of Kate and Madonna have strong sexual feelings aroused by their respective personnas), the dichotomy necomes more clear. Even the people who find Madonna most repulsive at some level must find her to be sexually attractive (personally I wouldn't think of having a long term relationship with the personality she exhibits but I can't help but think it might be enjoyable to spend an evening, perhaps as a consequence of meeting in a dark and smoky bar). While the image Madonna exudes is very primative, simple and earthy, Kate on the surface appears to be much more complex. It has been stated that Kate's sensuality has been directed to stimulate the sexual fantasys of post adolescent males who view themselves to be intellectually superior to the barbaristic personality which is stimulated by the likes of Madonna (Well if it wasn't previously stated, I just stated it). Kate is clearly a beautiful woman who has demonstrated that she can be provocative at a primative level (Babooshka SP?). Unlike Madonna, however, Kate is also capable of functioning at a higher cerebral sexuality level. It seems to me, videos non-withstanding, that lyrical comprehension is a prerequisite to being maximally sexually stimulated by Kate's work. Anyway, I guess that what I was trying to say in this long winded posting is that Madonna and Kate are as much alike as they are different. Regardless of what is believed, both are motivated by profits. Kate knows her audience and plays to it, Madonna (although having a much simpler job) does likewise. Of course the same can be said for Hulk Hogan (now there's a comparison that hasn't been made here before Kate--->Hulkster?) and any other celebrity who is very media directed at a specific audience. The problem with all of this is in defining the attributes of Kate's audience. I have to give credit to her PR people. John