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From: Mike Machnik <mike_m@apollo.com>
Date: Wed, 31 May 89 15:38:14 EDT
Subject: Joy Division/New Order groove messages & original titles
This is a list of original titles from Joy Division & New Order (the ones I know of). Many JD songs started out with different titles (Incubation & A Means To An End even switched titles at one point). Perhaps the biggest flap occurred over Decades; one reviewer had received a cassette copy of the LP (Closer) prior to its release on which Decades was named Cross of Iron. When the LP was released after Ian's death, it looked as if the title had been changed to remove any connection between Ian & Christ (also because of the Nazi rumors - Iron Cross). Actually, the renaming had taken place prior to Ian's death, according to the book _An Ideal For Living_. Joy Division Decades - Cross of Iron Incubation - Cross of Iron Incubation - A Means To An End A Means To An End - Incubation New Order Chosen Time - Death Rattle Denial - Little Dead Doubts Even Here - Tiny Tim Hurt - Cramp In A Lonely Place - Little Boy Temptation - Taboo No. 7 Power, Corruption & Lies (LP) - How Does It Feel Your Silent Face - KW-1 (Kraftwerk 1) Ultraviolence - Who Killed My Father Leave Me Alone - Only the Lonely Following is a list of the inner groove messages that appear on the JD and early NO records. I believe the catalog numbers and release dates are mostly correct (U.K. unless noted). Joy Division Run-off Groove Messages ------------------------------------ _An Ideal For Living_ (EP) Anonymous Records (ANON1), Oct 78 Songs: Warsaw, No Love Lost, Leaders of Men, Failures A: "Don't ever let it fade away" B: "Feel it closing in" (both from Digital) _Unknown Pleasures_ (LP) FACT 10, June 79 A: "This is the way" B: "Step inside" (both from Atrocity Exhibition) _Unknown Pleasures_ (LP) FACTUS 1 (U.S.) A: "This is the way" (A.E.) B: "I've been looking for a guide" (Disorder) _Earcom 2: Contradiction_ (Compilation 12") FAST 9B, 1979 "Hey Peel, kick out the jams" JD tracks: Auto-suggestion; From Safety To Where...? Also features Basczax, Thursdays _"Transmission" b/w "Novelty"_ 7" FAC 13, Oct 79 A: "And how I'll never know" B: "Just why or understand" (both from She's Lost Control) 12" FAC 13.12, Dec 80? A: "I've seen the real atrocities" B: "Buried in the sand" (Ice Age) _"Love Will Tear Us Apart" b/w "These Days" & "LWTUA" (alt. vers.)_ 7" FAC 23, Apr 80 A: "Don't disillusion me" B: "I've only got record shops left" 12" FAC 23.12, Jun 80 A: "Pure spirit" B: "Spectacle is a ritual" _Closer_ (LP) FACT 25/FACTUS 6 (U.S.), Jul 80 "Old Blue" _"She's Lost Control" b/w "Atmosphere"_ 12" FACTUS 2, Sep 80 A: "Here are the young men" B: "But where have they been" (both from Decades) _Still_ (LP) FACT 40, Nov 81 A: "The chicken won't stop" B: chicken tracks C: chicken tracks D: "The chicken stops here" Early New Order Run-off Groove Messages --------------------------------------- _"Ceremony" b/w "In A Lonely Place"_ 7" FAC 33, Jan 81 A: "Watching Forever" B: "How I Wish You Were Here With Me Now" (In A Lonely Place) 12" FAC 33.12, Mar 81 A: "Watching love grow - forever" B: "How I Wish We Were Here With You Now" (In A Lonely Place) _"Ceremony" b/w "In A Lonely Place"_ 12" FAC 33/12, Jul 81 A: "This is why events unnerve me" B: "How I Wish We Were Here With You Now" (In A Lonely Place) _"Procession" b/w "Everything's Gone Green"_ 7" FAC 53, Sep 81 A: "Soft" B: "Hard" _"Everything's Gone Green" b/w "Cries and Whispers" & "Mesh"_ 12" FBNL 8, Dec 81 A: "Why did Regulus go back to Rome?" _"Temptation" b/w "Hurt"_ FAC 63, Apr 82 7": 'Listen to the 12" ' 12": 'What do you think? ' If you have any additions/corrections to make to this, please send them to me. Thanks. - mike ("where will it end?")