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From: ircam!kato@uunet.UU.NET (John Kitamura)
Date: Wed, 24 May 89 11:47:44 -0100
Subject: Re: Serious vs. Serious
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Organization: l'Institut de Recherche et Coordination Acoustique-Musique
>Really-From: berns@lti.com (Brian Berns x26) In article <8905112358.AA00582@lti.com> you write: > >Phil Collins sucks ... This is not a nice thing to say. The drumming on "Get Em Out By Friday" from the "Genesis Live" album is enough to ensure him a place as an artist an innovator in rock and roll history. You can't ignore the huge amount of unforgettable matierial he has worked on in the past two decades, such as with Genesis, Brian Eno, Robert Fripp, Brand X, etc., any one of which would be an impressive effort for a single person. Have you listened to his drumming on _Exposure_ recently? There are not many who could put in effortless fills over a 15/8 rifflike he does there. And all of his work from this period seemed to deliberately steer away from any hint of commercial appeal. If he has decided now to pursue a more lucrative and less innovative path, we should not admonish him for his career desicions. Perhaps as he gets older he values the money a bit more than the music. Perhaps the public doesn't want to see a chubby bald guy play rock and roll, but doesn't mind a chubby bald guy singing a ballad. Perhaps Phil realizes this and sees that a fickle public wont help him pay his retirement bills no matter how "progressive" he remains. Perhaps he's just tired of it all. The original argument was the contrariness of artistic integrity and commerciality. There are many so-called artists who from the start of their carrers appear to make a calulated attack on the record buying public with very little artistic integrity. At least Phil Collins has given some twenty years of his life to stretch back the constricting margin surrounding popular music and investigate the wilderness in the fringes of avant-garde. In my opinion he has certainly paid his dues to the "Lovers of Non-Commercial Music" league. kato