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From: IED0DXM%OAC.UCLA.EDU@mitvma.mit.edu
Date: Mon, 22 May 89 11:50 PDT
Subject: _TKI_ and _obsKuriTies_
To: Love-Hounds Really to: Steve Jacquot From: Andrew Marvick Subject: _TKI_ and _obsKuriTies_ This was a personal e-mail note to Steve, but IED couldn't get through to him directly. It may also be of mild interest to other L-Hs, so here it is. > Date: Mon, 22 May 89 12:05:46 EDT > From: Steve Jacquot <saj@LUCIFER.PSYC.VIRGINIA.EDU> > To: ied0dxm > Subject: obsKuriTies > > I have just received my copy of the tape from John Bankert, and it >was certainly worth waiting for. Thanks for your effort in putting >it together and distributing it. > A couple of points: > In your transcription of the lyrics of _The_Kick_Inside_, you give >the lines "Your sister I was born. Lose me. /You must lose me like an >arrow." To my ear this is "loose me like an arrow." The meaning is >very different. "Lose me" implies carelessness. "Loose me" implies >purposefulness. If this point has been debated to death in Love-Hounds >I apologize, I haven't been reading it for very long. > Do you have any idea what Lizzy Wan's story is? > I hope you will consider putting out additional volumes of obsKuriTies, >possibly through a commercial duplication service. If you run out of >songs, I would be happy to listen to tapes of interviews. (Before >obsKuriTies, I had never heard Kate's speaking voice; I admit to being >charmed.) > >-- Steve Jacquot To: Steve Jacquot <saj@LUCIFER.PSYC.VIRGINIA.EDU> From: Andrew Marvick (IED) Subject: Re: your note Thanks for your note of appreciation, Steve. I was extremely intrigued by your suggestion about the line "lose me like an arrow" from _The_Kick_Inside_. I feel a little stupid that the parallel with "loose an arrow" had not occurred to me in all my eleven years of familiarity with this song. Of course you're right that Kate had "loose" in mind! The spelling in all the official editions of the lyrics has always been "lose". Two explanations are possible: first, that she meant "loose" and just didn't know how to spell it; second, that she meant to evoke the image of "loosing an arrow" while sticking to the storyline, in which the brother must "lose" her sister. While admitting the possibility that the former explanation is correct, I can't help feeling that Kate was deliberately spelling "lose" but using it in such a way as to _recall_ "loose"--she has often used puns and other plays on words in her lyrics, and this would be just like her. But you're certainly right that it looks as though, one way or another, she did have the expression "loose an arrow" in mind. Thanks again. Lizzie (or Lizzy or Lucy) Wan is the heroine of an old Irish traditional song called _The_Ballad_of_L._W._. Kate has cited the song several times as an influence on _The_Kick_Inside_ in interviews. So it wasn't entirely a surprise to find that new line in the early version of her song. The original ballad is about a young maiden who has an incestuous relationship with her brother and finally kills herself in order to avoid the shame of a pregnancy. (Perhaps a connection with _The_Handsome_Cabin_Boy_, too?) I've never heard a recording of the ballad, but I've read the sheet-music and judging from it, I could find no musical connection between the ballad and Kate's song. But the story is very similar, obviously, and Kate uses a line from the original lyrics of the old ballad: "I will not return until/The sun and moon meet on yonder hill." There will probably be a second obsKuriTies tape, but there may be a delay. I think we should wait a while, because we anticipate more of the _Cathy_Demos_ bootleg EPs coming out soon. The second volume of three or four songs is due any day now on the bootleg market, and I was told a while ago that the bootleggers had about twenty tracks all told, which means perhaps as many as five EPs are intended for the complete series. Anyway, aside from the EPs, the first volume of obsKuriTies contained most of the "crucial" non-LP music. The main omissions were the various guest-vocals Kate has done over the years for other artists--_You_ for Roy Harper, _Sing, _Children,_Sing_ for Leslie Duncan (Kate is scarcely identifiable), _Flowers_ for Zaine Griff, _The_Man_With_the_Child_in_His_Eyes_ for Ray Shell (I've still never heard this one), _The_Seer_ for Big Country, _The_King_is_Dead_ for Go West, _Sister_and_Brother_ for Midge Ure, _Do_Bears_Sh..._in_the_Woods?_ with Rowan Atkinson, and _No_Self_Control_, _Games_Without_Frontiers_ and _Don't_Give_Up_ for Peter Gabriel; plus her performance of the Maurice Jarre/Paul Webster song _The_Magician_, which is only barely audible in the background of the Alan Arkin movie, _The_Magician_of_Lublin_. Aside from those tracks, and the many, many live performances (most of which are only known from poor-quality in-audience bootleg recordings), there are only the interviews. Now the audio (and video) interviews amount to hours and hours, so we'd have to decide which ones would be of most interest. Probably the Tony Myatt interview for Capital Radio in 1985, which is forty-five minutes long and has stunningly clear sound, would be one. Perhaps contrast that with one very early interview, to show how radically Kate's public manner of speaking and representing herself has changed over the years. When we do get around to making the future tape(s), we will almost certainly use a pro duping service, though that will mean Love-Hounds will have to send in some actual money in advance to the organizer. Anyway, it'll probably be a couple of months or so. Look out in L-Hs for news. -- Andy