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From: IED0DXM%OAC.UCLA.EDU@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 89 11:26 PST
Subject: D E M O S (Craig's posting re _Record_Collector_)
To: Love-Hounds From: Andrew Marvick (IED) Subject: D E M O S (Craig's posting re _Record_Collector_) > Date: Thu, 12 Jan 89 14:35:29 +1100 > From: munnari!physiol.physiol.su.oz.au!rebeccam@uunet.UU.NET (Rebecca Mason) > Subject: Re: Mailbag Preliminary note: IED was not able to find the text of Rebecca's posting re "Mailbag" in Thursday's Digest. If anyone has it and if it is relevant to something IED said (or shouldn't have said), could he/she please re-post it? Thanks. Craig writes: >I picked up a copy of the January issue of the UK magazine "Record >Collector" today, in which "Richard Jackson reviews the rarest releases >from the first three years of Bush's career, including promos, limited >editions and obscure overseas picture sleeves and LPs". Many thanks to Craig for his posting on the new _RC_ article. IED entertains little hope that his contributions to the research behind Jackson's article was acknowledged. (IED sent in a long--as if you couldn't have guessed it would be long!--letter of review of _RC_'s last big Kate collectibles article, and it was never published. One of the points covered in his letter was the distinction between the two German LPs.) >The majority of it will be no surprise to the dedicated KollecTor >(although I wonder if the prices have really gone up _that_ much since >I was last in the market some 3-4 months ago), but... Not knowing the prices cited in the magazine, IED can't say, but he has seen the prices on some Kate items skyrocket beyond all reasonable belief during the past year or so. It all depends on who you're buying from, of course, but how about $750.00 for the pair of framed, autographed photos that went for a total of $60 when originally offered by Kate and EMI at the time of _HoL_'s initial release? Or $125.00 for the Canadian _On_Stage_--in less than mint condition? Both these items were _sold_, too, at a Hollywood store. >recordings, almost all of which are songs unavailable elsewhere. I can >confirm that the record does exist, as I had a copy in my hands for >about five seconds last year - long enough to say that it looked like >an official release, but not to memorise the song titles! The record does indeed exist. Peter FitzGerald-Morris confirmed this fact at the beginning of 1988 in a news flash in _HG_. He also listed the individual song titles (there are ten) in the article. Among them (from IED's poor memory) were: _Davy_ (an early version of _Maybe_); _Cussi_Cussi_; _Atlantis_; and _Sunsi_. >If it was an >'official' release, then expect it to change hands for very large sums >indeed." (In context, this would appear to mean several hundred >pounds.) > So, eKsperTs (IED, this means you!) (|>oug, where are you?) what's the >story here? I personally find it very hard to believe that such a >treasure trove could be hidden in obscurity for so long, especially >if it was an official West German release, but then again, "Record >Collector" is not given to perpetrating hoaxes. IED, too, would like to know where |>oug is. Should IED renew his former habit of baiting |>oug in L-Hs in a crude attempt to provoke our once-Pseudo-Moderator into breaking his long silence? IED agrees that the album (or future bootleg versions of it, even if only from tapes made from the original) could, for a time, anyway, bring many hundreds of dollars. In fact, that is probably what is actually happening right now. The only way the price could remain as high as that would be if the purveyors have been able to keep it out of bootleggers' hands--something that cannot continue for long. IED suspects that the collection will eventually turn up in a more affordable and more widely distributed bootleg form. >Of course, if anyone actually *has* this, it goes without saying that >I'd give my right (insert your chosen body-part here) for a tape of >it. > >-- Craig IED has had a recent lead on the existence of at least one collection of early Kate demos. A reliable (but unfortunately Kate-ignorant) source has recently _heard_ extracts from a collection (in what format IED has not yet discovered) of recordings that Kate reportedly made at age 14. The age has _not_ been confirmed by IED. Also, the songs were alleged to have been early versions of songs that later appeared on the first two albums, which would indicate that these are not the same demos that have been talked about for so long, but another set. Kate scholars will have already realized the holes in this story, since only a very few of the songs from _TKI_ and _Lionheart_ had already been composed in 1973. If all the songs on this latest collection are versions of _TKI_ and _Lionheart_ tracks, then it's likely that they belong to the group of demos that Kate made for EMI between 1975 and 1977. IED has been given no further particulars on this product yet. The owner was said to have been undecided what he/she should do with the songs. Since the intermediary messenger from whom IED learned these tantalizing facts works for a somewhat sleazy record importer, it seems likely to IED that the owner of the recordings is considering the profitability of marketing the collection as a bootleg--a la the recent Beatles _Back_Track_ CD--especially as IED was told that the sound of these Kate demos was quite good. IED has now told Love-Hounds absolutely everything that he knows about this subject. Craig and all other interested parties can rest assured that IED will be doing everything he possibly can to find out more about it in the future. If anything new comes up, Love-Hounds will be the first to know. -- Andrew Marvick