Info wanted on groups/Bill Nelson

[Greg Ward <gtward%wateng.waterloo.edu@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA>]

Can anyone give me information on the following groups? Discography, history,
members, etc. would be nice.

	Section 25
	A Certain Ratio
	League of Nations
	Sad Lovers and Giants

I know that the first two are on the Factory label. I have Section 25's
`From the Hip' but know nothing else about them. I just happened upon this
record when I was flipping through some records: the cover was immediately
recognizable as a Factory product, similar in many ways to the `Power,
Corruption and Lies' cover, so I picked it up. A friend played some
songs from the last two groups, but he had them on a tape that a
friend in Quebec made for him, so he didn't know anything about them.
They both sort of sounded like Joy Division and early New Order.
I saw A Certain Ratio when they opened for New Order last tour. They had
a much different sound, but I liked it.

	Greg Ward

`Look at your watch
 It's time to quit dreaming
 And get on the beam.' - BN

P.S. I was really surprised to see `Quit Dreaming and Get On the Beam' on
CD. Is any other Bill Nelson stuff (including Be-bop Deluxe) on CD?