Cloudbusting -- Kate
Bush In Her Own Words
There are so many images of loneliness on the album [ the sensual
- Yes, I think there are. I suppose, in relationships, there's a lot
that can go wrong very quickly, and you have to work at them, which, I think,
is something a lot of people aren't aware of until they grow up a bit. These
things gradually reveal themselves to you, don't they?
- You're right - most of my songs are about relationships, probably
always have been, really. That feels to me how things are, really:
relationships towards other things and people, and how we actually manage to
make these forms of contact... (1989, Melody Maker)
I think men are bigger babies than women. I don't think we grow up
- Maybe men can avoid more situations than women in terms of facing
things. I guess there are things for women that are different and they tend to
deal with life situations rather than perhaps the business world or whatever.
God, this sounds so sexist...
Not at all. Women give birth, they are physically part of the
creative process. It's as if their orgasm grows and bears fruit, whereas men
fuck and that's it - it's a release, something we get rid of rather than
something we gain. Then it all builds up again, and we can't handle it. I think
women are far stronger emotionally. Men can't cope with emotions. We get
frustrated and aggressive and destructive because we can't express ourselves,
whereas women seem to embody their feelings better. Something
positive grows from them.
- Yes, I think you're right. It's very hard on all of us but, yet,
through the process of giving birth, I'm sure women are much stronger than men,
and it's incredibly hard on them that they should not be able to show their
emotions when actually it's okay to be weak.
We men are confused. The trouble with the invention of the notion
of sexism and the paranoia surrounding it is that the only way we can deal with
it is based on a fallacy. We think that, just because women should quite
rightly have equal rights and equal opportunities, the sexes are the same. But
we're not - women are aliens to us, we don't understand you at all. You speak a
different language altogether. We're different creatures entirely.
- Absolutely, I'm with you 100 per cent. I couldn't agree more. I
think it's awful what's happening to people's sense of their own sexuality.
Women are made to feel awkward about expressing themselves as women in a man's
world, so, subconsciously, a lot of the time, they're behaving like men because
they don't know how strong they're supposed to be. Then again, women's lib has
left men in a lot of areas where they don't know how to behave in case they get
called sexist, a pig, or whatever.
- We are different, and we should be helping each other. Unfortunately
there was such a lot of shit to get through that it was a battle, but I don't
think it need be. (1989, Melody
The album seems to be saying, ``if you find yourself in a tricky
situation, follow your instincts - just behave the way if feels right and at
least you're being true to yourself, irrespective of the outcome."
- Yes, absolutely... And what an incredibly difficult thing to apply
to life. I think there are some very good things going on to help us through. I
must say, for me, the comedy in this country has been really educational. You
know, Ben Elton and The Comic Strip - all those people you can't really call
alternative comedians anymore because they've become mainstream. I think
they've really done a lot to stop it being fashionable to be humorous with
- It used to be very hip to make fun of women. Old comedy was all
about treating women as a threat and, therefore, making fun of them. And I
think they've really changed a lot of that. They've done so much for men and
women because now, in most circles, among people our age, if you make a sexist
joke, it's really considered tasteless. I think that's a fantastic step
forward. And to see people like Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders out there
doing comedy being women as women is brilliant.
- They're just out there doing it and, the more women can be strong
enough to do that, the more it'll help everybody. It used to really scare me
the way women were portrayed in comedy, and the way they behaved: either they
were bitching off other women and being sexist themselves, or they were
allowing themselves to be used as sex objects, either positively or negatively
- they were either very beautiful or very stereotypically ugly. Women would
just be batted around from these extremes, but that hold's been broken now and,
as comedy's so much part of our nature in this country, so much a part of our
roots, to break old things like that is an incredible step. (1989, Melody Maker)
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