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O{+> is very controlling, obsessive, and (last I heard) a swirling vortex of poor mental health. I doubt KaTe with her sensitive nature (from what I have observed) could have withstood prolong 'close' contact with such a troubled soul/mind. BTW, I heard "My Computer" over the weekend.... where's KaTe? Oh, silly me... O{+> CONSISTANTLY 'phases out' anyone who could possibly 'out shine' his royal musicalness... (or should I say Its royal musicalness, since O{+> isn't even sure if the currently dominant personality that is 'in charge' is male or female... hence the symbol) Don't get me wrong.. I am a fan of O{+>'s stuff, especially the older stuff (pre 1999), but his habit for cutting off anyone he percieves as getting ANY kind of recognition due to their association with him (Wendy / Lisa, Matt Bland, Rosie Gains, ..... and on and on), and his increasing mental unbalance (which appears to be indulged, instead of confronted by those around him), makes me irritated. Wow, what a rant d~ Donna Henderson (860) 486-5685 302A Monteith Building Microcomputer Support Consultant Social Sciences / University of Connecticut