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Re: the *homosexual* theme

From: Robb McCaffree <nsrjm@nursepo.medctr.ucla.edu>
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 05:49:23 -0800
Subject: Re: the *homosexual* theme
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Brian J. Dillard wrote:
> 
> Robb wrote:
> ----------------
> Is it denigrating Kashka's
> relationship (and therefore homosexuality) for needing more
> light than the moon can provide? And does the moon/la lune refer
> to what I think it does?
> ----------------
> That depends. What do you think the moon/la lune refers to? I am
> genuinely interested as this is one of my fave early kate tracks and I
> never really attached much significance to that particular detail.

I wondered if the line "catches them calling a la lune" referred 
to a sexual act. (This , however is not the part of the song I 
thought might be disapproving. It's the "moon's not bright 
enough" line that had me curious.)

> 
> I do _not_ think the song denigrates homosexuality. *Wow* touches on gay
> issues, too--the homophobia of the entertainment industry: *Hell never
> play the scene/get to be that movie queen/hes too busy hitting the
> vaseline* And get a load of that gesture in the video--Kate slapping her
> ass to the last of the above-quoted lines.


Wasn't the video banned for that reason -- and then later 
reproduced from her live show? It's a shame too, this is one of 
her most charming video performances, I think. Did anyone else 
notice that Stevie Nicks' video for "If Anyone Falls" has her 
twirling in a similarly lacey dress in front of a window and a 
hearth? She fades in too, just like Kate.


(snip)
> 
> My take on the lyrics (although I dont have them in front of me so this
> may reflect personal bias more than textual evidence): the song is,
> indeed, a celebration of a love so perfect and hidden that it needs no
> outside validation. kate/the narrator wants to share in this love and/or
> experience something so intense herself. I can't remember the exact
> detail in the demos disc, but it seems to me that the demos lyrics may
> suggest that kate has romantic feelings for kashka himself. Again, I
> would have to give it a good listen to remember why I got that
> feeling....


I don't have the demos on me at the moment, but the line I think 
you're referring to is (and I quote from wonderful Gaffaweb):

  What would I do if I were seen? 
  What would I do if they knew my feelings?