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>Love-Hounds digest         Monday, 18 March 1996       Volume 12 : Number 090

>In this issue:
>Q: Kate & Oscar Wilde
>Autographed "Red Shoes" album Art for sale...
>Numbered, Auotgraphed, "the RED SHOES" cover art..4 sale
>Autographed "The Red Shoes" cover art For Sale
>Re: Mon choux marche avec...
>who's to know the power behind our moods? (Sphinx questions)
>For TA and KB completists
>RE: Q: Kate & Oscar Wilde
>RE: who's to know the power behind our moods? (Sphinx questions)
>A quest:  Woman seeks other women to jam with
>Re: who's to know the power behind our moods? (Sphinx questions)
>Re: Love-Hounds digest V12 #81 
>Re: A quest: Woman seeks other women to jam with
>Re: Kate and Punkers
>Re: DELIUS VIDEO
>Re: Kate's affair -- proof?
>RE: Q: Kate & Oscar Wilde
>Re: Smurf?
>Background voices on -eh- Lily
>A warning
>Looking for Mr. Goodbar (no Kate content)
>October Project + Sampler (with KaTe, for Uli)
>Re: Mon choux marche avec...

>----------------------------------------------------------------------

>From: Emmy May Lombaerts <lombaeg@mail.interpac.be>
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:27:22 +0100
>Subject: Q: Kate & Oscar Wilde

> Michael Doerr <doerr@cns.mpg.de> asked:
> 
>>Doea anybody nows wether Kate's work (specially lyrics)
>>is influenced by Oscar Wilde ??
> 
>      The song 'December Will Be Magic Again' includes the line 'Oh, it's
>quiet inside, here in Oscar's mind', which could be a reference to Oscar
>Wilde, IMHO. 

>                   Emmy.







>Emmy May Lombaerts
>lombaeg@mail.interpac.be        Krd@www.dma.be
> 
>http://www.dma.be/p/bewoner/Krd/

>o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-
>'And Is It Right, Butterfly, They like You Better Framed And Dried?' ~
>                                   Tori Amos
>o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-


>------------------------------

>From: nws@starnet.net (yaya)
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:06:54 GMT
>Subject: Autographed "Red Shoes" album Art for sale...

>Framed,  numbered (381/500), 2' x 2',  says "with love, Kate Bush",
>Cover artwork from "the Red Shoes", original print, these were onlly
>sent out to radio people who supported Kate. Highest offer takes
>it.... 

>------------------------------

>From: nws@starnet.net (yaya)
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:12:05 GMT
>Subject: Numbered, Auotgraphed, "the RED SHOES" cover art..4 sale

>number 381/500, framed, personally autographed by KATE, says "with
>love, KATE BUSH"  2' x2', highest offer takes it...

>------------------------------

>From: nws@starnet.net (yaya)
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:11:09 GMT
>Subject: Autographed "The Red Shoes" cover art For Sale

>"with love, Kate Bush" number 381/500, 2' x 2' framed.  highest bidder
>gets it...

>------------------------------

>From: Richard Caley <rjc@lillith.demon.co.uk>
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:31:16 +0000
>Subject: Re: Mon choux marche avec...

>`My profiterols are going to war'?
>- -- 
>rjc@lillith.demon.co.uk                         _O_
>                                                 |<

>Turnpike evaluation. For information, see http://www.turnpike.com/

>------------------------------

>From: jbrujo@ibm.net
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:20:27      
>Subject: who's to know the power behind our moods? (Sphinx questions)

>                                        March, 17th 1996

> WHO'S TO KNOW THE POWER BEHIND OUR MOODS? (Sphinx questions)

>   The followings is just a series of theories that may or not
>have some relation with Kate song "Strange Phenomena". It is up
>to you to decide if the coincidence among these theories and the
>lyrics of such song is due only to chance or ther'is something
>more.

>                           THEORIES:

>  -   The tibetan word PADME [Om mani PADME hum] is derived from
>padma, meaning in a literal sense LOTUS. In a symbolical sense,
>it has the same meaning of CHAKRA, a sanskrit word that describes
>the Energy Centres existing in the human beings, Centres
>producing among other functions, what we know as FEELINGS and
>THOUGHTS. Each chakra is in tune whit certain stellar bodies
>(planets, constellations, etc), receiving from them its energy,
>as a radio [


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>Love-Hounds digest         Monday, 18 March 1996       Volume 12 : Number 090

>In this issue:
>Q: Kate & Oscar Wilde
>Autographed "Red Shoes" album Art for sale...
>Numbered, Auotgraphed, "the RED SHOES" cover art..4 sale
>Autographed "The Red Shoes" cover art For Sale
>Re: Mon choux marche avec...
>who's to know the power behind our moods? (Sphinx questions)
>For TA and KB completists
>RE: Q: Kate & Oscar Wilde
>RE: who's to know the power behind our moods? (Sphinx questions)
>A quest:  Woman seeks other women to jam with
>Re: who's to know the power behind our moods? (Sphinx questions)
>Re: Love-Hounds digest V12 #81 
>Re: A quest: Woman seeks other women to jam with
>Re: Kate and Punkers
>Re: DELIUS VIDEO
>Re: Kate's affair -- proof?
>RE: Q: Kate & Oscar Wilde
>Re: Smurf?
>Background voices on -eh- Lily
>A warning
>Looking for Mr. Goodbar (no Kate content)
>October Project + Sampler (with KaTe, for Uli)
>Re: Mon choux marche avec...

>----------------------------------------------------------------------

>From: Emmy May Lombaerts <lombaeg@mail.interpac.be>
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:27:22 +0100
>Subject: Q: Kate & Oscar Wilde

> Michael Doerr <doerr@cns.mpg.de> asked:
> 
>>Doea anybody nows wether Kate's work (specially lyrics)
>>is influenced by Oscar Wilde ??
> 
>      The song 'December Will Be Magic Again' includes the line 'Oh, it's
>quiet inside, here in Oscar's mind', which could be a reference to Oscar
>Wilde, IMHO. 

>                   Emmy.







>Emmy May Lombaerts
>lombaeg@mail.interpac.be        Krd@www.dma.be
> 
>http://www.dma.be/p/bewoner/Krd/

>o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-
>'And Is It Right, Butterfly, They like You Better Framed And Dried?' ~
>                                   Tori Amos
>o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-


>------------------------------

>From: nws@starnet.net (yaya)
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:06:54 GMT
>Subject: Autographed "Red Shoes" album Art for sale...

>Framed,  numbered (381/500), 2' x 2',  says "with love, Kate Bush",
>Cover artwork from "the Red Shoes", original print, these were onlly
>sent out to radio people who supported Kate. Highest offer takes
>it.... 

>------------------------------

>From: nws@starnet.net (yaya)
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:12:05 GMT
>Subject: Numbered, Auotgraphed, "the RED SHOES" cover art..4 sale

>number 381/500, framed, personally autographed by KATE, says "with
>love, KATE BUSH"  2' x2', highest offer takes it...

>------------------------------

>From: nws@starnet.net (yaya)
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:11:09 GMT
>Subject: Autographed "The Red Shoes" cover art For Sale

>"with love, Kate Bush" number 381/500, 2' x 2' framed.  highest bidder
>gets it...

>------------------------------

>From: Richard Caley <rjc@lillith.demon.co.uk>
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:31:16 +0000
>Subject: Re: Mon choux marche avec...

>`My profiterols are going to war'?
>- -- 
>rjc@lillith.demon.co.uk                         _O_
>                                                 |<

>Turnpike evaluation. For information, see http://www.turnpike.com/

>------------------------------

>From: jbrujo@ibm.net
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:20:27      
>Subject: who's to know the power behind our moods? (Sphinx questions)

>                                        March, 17th 1996

> WHO'S TO KNOW THE POWER BEHIND OUR MOODS? (Sphinx questions)

>   The followings is just a series of theories that may or not
>have some relation with Kate song "Strange Phenomena". It is up
>to you to decide if the coincidence among these theories and the
>lyrics of such song is due only to chance or ther'is something
>more.

>                           THEORIES:

>  -   The tibetan word PADME [Om mani PADME hum] is derived from
>padma, meaning in a literal sense LOTUS. In a symbolical sense,
>it has the same meaning of CHAKRA, a sanskrit word that describes
>the Energy Centres existing in the human beings, Centres
>producing among other functions, what we know as FEELINGS and
>THOUGHTS. Each chakra is in tune whit certain stellar bodies
>(planets, constellations, etc), receiving from them its energy,
>as a radio [A day of coincidence with the radio] receives some
>sound wavelenghts or a jewel [mani = jewel] receives some light
>wavelenghts.

>   -  Among the ckakras there are "passages" connecting them that
>some times are more open and some times more closed. Most of
>times the "passages" among the 2 most perfect chakras and the
>rest of the chakras are closed to a great extent.   

>   -  The moon, through certain chakra, exerts a powerfull,
>punctual, cyclical influence upon the human moods [Every girl
>knows about the punctual blues], that varies according its
>phases. It is strongest at full moon, weakest at new moon. At new
>moon there tends to increse the opening of the "passages" among
>the aforementioned chakras and the remaining ones. That allows
>for the manifestation of certain Universal Law that, in turn,
>tends to get in tune people holding certain affinities [ ... the
>phase of the moon when people tune in; soul birds of a feather
>flocks together] or, in a more technical language, sharing the
>same archetypes. All of this depending on the grade of
>"sensitivity" (please, note the quotation marks) of such persons
>and only into a limited space and for a limited time. Here,
>"sensitivity" means the capacity to receive, or to be
>"impressioned" by, such archetypes. That brings about strange
>coincidences that can't be explained just resorting to chance.

>   Confusing?. Well, don't worry. After all, this is just a
>series of theories.

>   ..... Or not?.

>   
>                     Jbrujo.


>------------------------------

>From: Kerry White <zzkwhite@ktwu.wuacc.edu>
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:33:32 -0600 (CST)
>Subject: For TA and KB completists

>  Hello,
>  Disclaimer:  There are those that would be disturbed by this(nudity) but
>there are those that would want to know: A skin mag titled Celebrity
>Sleuth has the names Kate Bush and Tori Amos on the cover this month. 
>  KaTe is just a copy in B+W of the poster in the skin tight workout suit. 
>  Tori is a photo from the Oz tour: seated on the piano bench w/out 
>underwear.  Apparently mentioned in Aus. newsrags.  She *had* to know 
>this would happen,IMHO.  
>  Liz Phair, Melissa Etheridge,Courtney Love and others are also present.
>                              
>                                  KrW
>                  "They said it couldn't be done but 
>                         sometimes that doesn't 
>                               work either"            
>     

>------------------------------

>From: "Forward, Jonathan" <JForward@sitgbsd1.telecom.com.au>
>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 09:40:00 EST
>Subject: RE: Q: Kate & Oscar Wilde

>> Date: Sunday, 17 March 1996 5:48PM

> Michael wrote:

>> Doea anybody nows wether Kate's work (specially lyrics)
>> is influenced by Oscar Wilde ??

>This is all I could find, apart from the obvious reference Emmy
>already pointed out. From Andrew Marvick's "The Garden":

>     [The following is an interview with Kate Bush by Hot Press, one of
>the few British music publications which seldom shows up in the States.
>The interview was conducted by an anonymous male reporter for the
>magazine in November of 1985. Edited and annotated by Andrew Marvick.]

>[snip - TSB]
>     "Right, well it always affects me. Every book I've read has really
>affected me. It's that special, you do create a relationship, really.
>And that was such a huge story...Oscar Wilde was one of my earliest
>influences--his fairy stories. I could still read one of them--
>definitely--and cry. Terribly tragic stuff."




> TSB

>------------------------------

>From: "Forward, Jonathan" <JForward@sitgbsd1.telecom.com.au>
>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 10:15:00 EST
>Subject: RE: who's to know the power behind our moods? (Sphinx questions)

>> Date: Sunday, 17 March 1996 11:20PM

> JBrujo wrote something quite

>>    Confusing?. Well, don't worry. After all, this is just a
>> series of theories.
>>
>>    ..... Or not?.

> Sorry to be dreary re your theory series deary, *BUT*...

> Taken from Andrew Marvick's "The Garden":

>     [Here are Kate's writings from the Kate Bush Club Newsletter,
>issue Number 1 (January 1979). Following the article is a brief
>"interview" with Kate, in which she responds to fans' written
>questions.]

>[snip to the interview - TSB]
>    In Strange Phenomena, what do the words "om mani padme hum"
>mean?
>     "Club member Matthew Toreson has sent in an explanation, which he
>found in an encyclopedia. It is a form of adoration of the Buddha, and
>means, 'Oh, the jewel in the lotus.' Thanks, Matthew."

>[back to TSB-land]

> She didn't even know what it meant when she recorded it.




> TSB

>------------------------------

>From: anonymous <72760.2745@CompuServe.COM>
>Date: 18 Mar 1996 01:44:24 GMT
>Subject: A quest:  Woman seeks other women to jam with

>A quest:  woman seeks other women to jam with

>Joan Galt is looking for some other women to jam with, somewhere in the
>greater Washington DC/Baltimore/Frederick MD area.  Joan, who is in her
>30's, is mostly self-taught (and always learning), likes to sing and
>play her electric guitar.  Women of all colors, ages and types are
>welcome to respond (agnostic and cynical tendencies preferred).  Note:
>this is STRICTLY a musical thang!

>Co-jammer requirements:

>* Whacked-out sense of humor

>* Must play some instrument well enough to accomplish something--
>strings preferred, but woodwinds, keyboards and percussion are fine too
>(unusual ok: theremins and zoomoozophones no problem).  Good strong
>vocals are a plus.

>* Must be willing to be totally fragrance-free for sessions (due to
>allergic asthma)

>* Art or design background a big plus--no lawyers or engineers, please

>* Environmentally-oriented people preferred--especially ticked-off
>vegans & vegetarians

>* No commercial aspirations--it's just for fun (but who knows?)

>* Must not be afraid of "strong" language.


>Joan's musical likes:

>B-52's 
>Gang of Four * 
>Jane Siberry * 
>Kate Bush * 
>Peter Gabriel 
>Brian Eno 
>Portishead 
>Alanis Morissette 
>Crash Test Dummies 
>Ofra Haza 
>Thomas Dolby before he cut his hair off * 
>Erik Satie

>* but Joan was disappointed by latest recording.


>All interested parties are urged to respond (*** via e-mail ***) with
>location, talents and outlook on music, culture, life and the state of
>the world...

>This offer good for a limited time only, so act now!


>------------------------------

>From: Felix1shoe@aol.com
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:40:16 -0500
>Subject: Re: who's to know the power behind our moods? (Sphinx questions)

>Jonathan Forward wrote:

>>>  this is just a
>>> series of theories.

>> Sorry to be dreary re your theory series deary, *BUT*...

>YIKES!!  All this internal rhyme!  Have you been listening to 
>olde peter gabriel lyrics, by any chance??

>double helix felix


>------------------------------

>From: wisner@gryphon.com (Bill Wisner)
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 18:58:47 -0800
>Subject: Re: Love-Hounds digest V12 #81 

>> From: IEDSRI@aol.com
>> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:08:56 -0500
>> Subject: KT in SF, November 1994

>> As much as IED would love to share his most cherished
>> memories of the evening, he cannot, as he was kindly (but
>> firmly) asked by Del and Paddy not to describe the impromptu
>> post-screening party incident.  (Karen will remember, though, as 
>> it all happened at her place!)

>> John Light and Bill Wisner were there, though.  IED doesn't know
>> whether they were explicitly sworn to secrecy or not. . . 

>You know, the whole evening I really wasn't convinced it was all
>really happening to me - meeting Kate *twice* in one year just seemed
>unbelievable.  We have Peter Gabriel to thank, of course; I don't know
>how he managed to convince her to join that WOMAD festival but whatever
>he did is enough to earn my eternal thanks.  Her set with the Trio
>Bulgarka was easily the high point of a very hot, miserable day in
>Golden Gate Park.  And then there was the concert Peter played at the
>Oakland Coliseum a few days later.  It was a make-up show for one he
>had been forced to cancel due to illness some months before.  I knew
>in advance that Kate would be making a "surprise" appearance during
>the show, of course; her people had contacted me beforehand to set me
>up with passes.  But it was still terribly gratifying to hear the
>awed cheer of the assembled crowd of 20,000 when Kate appeared on
>stage for the duet in Come Talk To Me.

>But getting back to the point: I also was "asked" to keep quiet.  The Bush
>clan has always been very good at taking care of loose ends.  Really,
>though, what happened there shouldn't have surprised any of us -- Karen
>lives in a terribly small place.

>w.

>------------------------------

>From: Felix1shoe@aol.com
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:40:08 -0500
>Subject: Re: A quest: Woman seeks other women to jam with

>Anonymous wrote on behalf of Joan:

>>Jane Siberry * 

>>* but Joan was disappointed by latest recording.

>Joan has a lovely list of likes (I at least like all of them) BUT I must
>disagree with the above!!

>Jane Siberry's recent work, _Maria_, is her finest ever!!  It is the most 
>brilliant thing that I have heard all year, so far!  This is the one for
>which
>I have waited since the beginning of Jane's fascinating career.

>Felix

>------------------------------

>From: chrisw@miso.wwa.com (Chris Williams)
>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 07:18:39 GMT
>Subject: Re: Kate and Punkers

>In article <960315113433.c29c@ucfv.bc.ca>, MCQUARRF@ucfv.bc.ca wrote:
>>Further to Vickie's note on the dangers of telling fake Kate-affair stories 
>:),
>>
>>I was struck by the part of this note that said Vickie once spent some time 
>>on a chat channel arguing with some guy who thought Kate had a relationship 
>>with some punk rocker. Could this by any chance be Hugh Cornwell of the 
>>Stranglers?

>  Actually, this was "in real life". The guy was insisting that it was John
>Lydon (*way* unlikely - Johnny smells *terrible*. Kate smells very nice.
>I don't believe Kate could have an affair with a man famed for never washing
>his hair.) I've heard the Hugh Cornwall rumor before. IMO, this guy confused
>the Cornwall rumor with the Vernoral article contrasting the the Catholicism
>of Kate and Lydon.

>>(this part is true, not made up) I recall some stories about the time of the
>>first album that said Kate was indeed going out with M. Cornwell, but the
>>relationship broke up about the time Hugh spent a few months as the guest of
>>Her Majesty (i.e. in prison) for possessing some naughty substances.

>    As far as we know, Kate and Del have been an "item" since the days of
>the KT Bush band. So, unless they have broken up several times or she
>is non-monogamous (unlikely IMO) any rumors of Kate relationships with
>other men are simply BS. 

>   Kate has vigorously defended her privacy. For years she kept her 
>relationship with Del a public secret. In one interview she wouldn't
>answer a question about "...who's yer boyfriend, then?" except to
>claim that "...he's not a musician" in an appempt to misdirect the
>speculation.

>>Reference to this rumour is made in the "Great Pop Things" cartoon (series 
>>that runs in the New Musical Express) that satirizes Kate's career.

>    Where do you thnk the cartoonist gets his/her information? From sources
>far less reliable than Love-Hounds. I answered a question in the Todd Rundgren
>newsgroup about Will Powers/Lynn Goldsmith. I just typed in some stuff off
>the top of my head and posted it. The poster responded that the information 
>was exactly what he was looking for, and thanks. I wrote back offering more
>complete information when I got back home with my copy of the record and 
>the videotapes. He replied that he had to go with what he had as this was
>for a column in Record Mirror and the deadline was the imminent.

>   So, what I typed in was considered correct and published in the Record
>Mirror. I was correct, but what if I hadn't been? What if I had typed some 
>complete nonsense in an confident manner? Would I have received the
>same response? Would the nonsense have become more believable
>from it's appearance in Record Mirror?

>>Can anyone confirm/deny?

>   Denying a rumor gives it more substance than simply ignoring it. Most
>of the rumors of Kate-affairs are simply DJs and music writers refusing
>to believe that someone as beautiful as Kate could be involved in the pop 
>music business and not be playing the usual games (Mariah Carry's
>marrage to the president of her label is a good example or Madonna
>early relationships with club DJ's who could get her play). Kate's mother
>and father were married till death did they part. IMO that tends to make
>one seek the same sort of long-time relationship.

>   The idea that Kate could stay with the same guy for years instead of
>moving from boyfriend to boyfriend in furtherance of her carreer is
>rather depressing to the average music biz hack. If she wasn't with
>the same guy, they'd at least have a shot, y'know?


>- --
>Chris Williams of
>Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago
>chrisw@miso.wwa.com
>"How perfectly goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure." - C. Crumb

>------------------------------

>From: btd@carina.cray.com (Bryan Dongray)
>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 01:29:14 -0600 (CST)
>Subject: Re: DELIUS VIDEO

>spike45@sos.sos.net (monroe/fisher) [Wayne] wrote:
>> Was watching my Kate boot video recently (had not played it for years due to
>> the extreme poor quality). Well anyway there is one segment with Kate doing
>> Delius on stage in a kind of butterfly costume. I love this. The poor
>> quality gives it this dreamy/cloudy look which seems to fit the setting. The
>> mix also sounds different. There is a picture from this performance on Page
>> 11 in Kate Bush Complete.

>A most excellent performance of this song.

>> Also on this video is Kate doing BABOOSHKA in split face make up playing
>> both characters of the song. Afterwards she sits down with a C&W group of
>> guys who proceed to make complete asses of themselves. Kate looks very
>> uncomfortable and my skin crawls as I watch this. These guys are not
>> American and it seems to be their show on British tv. Who are these guys?

>Sounds like the above two are from the "Dr Hook Special" aired BBC2 on
>the 7th of April 1980. Well, Delius was also shown on the Russell Harty
>show on the 25th of November too, as a tribute to the composer.
>Sounds like you need to find someone who can copy you the LoveHounds
>Collection video pair, it's on there (tape A 0:47:32-0:55:18).

>> I hope there are some musicians out there that can help me with this one.
>> When HOL first came out I was just learning to play the piano (still am, No
>> lessons). I love Under the Ivy and And Dream of Sheep so I wanted to figure
>> out how to play them,so I did. A couple of years later I found the Complete
>> Kate Bush. Well I had all the chords to Under the Ivy right, but one chord
>> on And Dream of Sheep is different than what I had been playing. "If they
>> find me racing white horses".
>> E bass with E,E6,F#m7,Bsus4. I have always played Bmaj over an E bass, not
>> Bsus4, and the Bmaj still sounds correct to me. Maybe my ear is not so good?

>Well done for doing what you did, I'm not happy with the Complete Kate
>music (which I've yet to find a real copy of), it leaves *much* to the
>imagination, and not much in the way of actually dicating what to play.

>On your chord issue, if other tunes are to go by, the pseudo dischord of
>an Eb AND an E fits KaTes profile. Also a static bass non-progression
>staying on E is far simpler than the steps going through E, F#, and a long
>jump to a B, and since KaTe admits to taking the easy (so more pleasant
>sounding and flowing) route in playing, I'd go for your suggestion of:
>	E E6 F#m7/E B/E
>instead.

>Actually listening to my CD (as I *just* did after writing the previous
>paragraph), you can clearly hear the static bass E all through that line.
>You can also hear the high Eb going to E progressing to the next E chord
>for the next line.

>Trying it your (and I think KaTes) way, it fits the easier (nice flowing)
>style, including the pre-emptive from E6 to F#7m, my guess is simply moving
>the E to C# to go from E to E6, making the F#m7 a simpler change than I had
>been trying before. Sounds "right" too!

>Thank you VERY much,

>			Bryan Dongray

>PS I've never had a piano (or other instrument) lesson, but can play
>most instruments I pick up within a short while (much to the instrument
>owners dismay/embarrassment sometimes. There they are struggling for
>weeks to produce a couple of notes, and within 10 minutes I'm playing
>simple tunes). I don't intend to either! I guess I should do something
>to improve my sheet music reading speed though. Anyway I understand
>many artists have not had lessons either. I understand from a few
>interviews that if they had, they would have followed the "rules", and
>not produced excellent modern pieces which often break the rules, but
>sound so right. Such as the above B/E which is technically dischordant,
>and would not be "normally" allowed (if I understand some rules I
>have read about writing music "properly" - stupid book).

>------------------------------

>From: chrisw@miso.wwa.com (Chris Williams)
>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 07:39:06 GMT
>Subject: Re: Kate's affair -- proof?

>In article <v02140b04ad66867be9d2@[204.162.164.225]>, violet@slip.net wrote:
>>Andrew commented:
>>>Violet reminisces:
>>>
>>> >  But I notice it didn't wear her out too much keep her
>>> > from having that torrid, less-than-discreet affair with
>>> > then-married Peter Gabriel during the three-month UK
>>> > leg of the tour!
>>
>>>IED cannot dispute the account of Kate's deplorable pre-HoL
>>>days with Waits, but the above rumor remains entirely
>>>unsubstantiated.
>>
>>Well Andrew, let's not forget about that raunchy photo of P & K together in
>>Paris that graced the covers of all the British ragmags.  But photos HAVE
>>been faked in the past, so I am willing to admit that it is entirely
>>possible that it never happened.  However, look at the way they're groping
>>each other in that "Don't Give Up" video!  Oh, it might LOOK subtle, but
>>God only knows WHAT'S really going on under those trench coats!  Judge for
>>yourself.  Frankly, I find it a bit shocking.

>   Peter hosted 120 Minutes (?) and played a bit of the video and commented
>on having to spend all day hugging Kate. "Sometimes one has to suffer for
>one's art." he said with a schoolboy's grin. (note: The preceding was real.)

>- --
>Chris Williams of
>Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago
>chrisw@miso.wwa.com
>"How perfectly goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure." - C. Crumb

>------------------------------

>From: chrisw@miso.wwa.com (Chris Williams)
>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 07:54:57 GMT
>Subject: RE: Q: Kate & Oscar Wilde

>In article <314DBF97@msmailv0.telecom.com.au>, 
>JForward@sitgbsd1.telecom.com.au ("Forward, Jonathan") wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sunday, 17 March 1996 5:48PM
>>
>> Michael wrote:
>>
>>> Doea anybody nows wether Kate's work (specially lyrics)
>>> is influenced by Oscar Wilde ??
>>
>>This is all I could find, apart from the obvious reference Emmy
>>already pointed out. From Andrew Marvick's "The Garden":
>>
>>     [The following is an interview with Kate Bush by Hot Press, one of
>>the few British music publications which seldom shows up in the States.
>>The interview was conducted by an anonymous male reporter for the
>>magazine in November of 1985. Edited and annotated by Andrew Marvick.]

>   She also took time in the unedited eMpTyVee interview to praise Wilde's
>"fairy stories" and related the tale of "The Happy Prince". This was mentioned

>by Peter Manchester (Peter? Come home!) several months
>ago. 

>   This interview is without a doubt one of the best Kate interviews
>ever. She started out somewhat indifferent, but by the time Wilde was
>mentioned she was leaning forward in her chair deeply interested in the
>conversation. 

>   Our copy is probably 8 to 10 generations from the original, and has
>lost all color. If someone has a copy in color *please* write me. I'd
>love to include this on the next "Love-Hounds Collection".

>- --
>Chris Williams of
>Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago
>chrisw@miso.wwa.com
>"How perfectly goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure." - C. Crumb

>------------------------------

>From: chrisw@miso.wwa.com (Chris Williams)
>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 08:42:43 GMT
>Subject: Re: Smurf?

>>Hello friends,
>>
>>IED wrote:
>>>And Wieland agrees:
>>> > It IS Smurf.
>>> > Al Murphy was known to her as Smurf.
>>>IED doesn't know where these two usually authoritative 
>>>Kate Bushologists got their information from, but, on 
>>>the contrary, the lyric sheet clearly has " 'S Murph", the 
>>>contraction almost certainly referring either to "It's" 
>>>or to "There's".
>>
>>I think I was to fast with my statement. Thanks for paying attention!
>>The only evidence for "Smurf" I could find were two LH mails deducing this
>>from the song, and HG 48 p. 5 where PDFM writes "Smurf". I vaguely remember
>>reading it elsewhere too, but can't remember where. I'm not sure
>>anymore. Chris, do you have any evidence for "Smurf"? I'm sorry about this
>>possibly false information.

>   I remember the same HG. It *sounds* like she's saying "Smurf". And the
>nickname "smurf" is a far better nickname than the rather pedestrian "Murph".

>   Personally, I believe that she said "smurf", but that "Smurf" is a 
>copyrighted name for evil little blue bastards, and she would have had to
>get permission from the creator of said evil little blue bastards. So she
>came up with "S'murph" as a way of wiggling out of a nasty copyright
>fight. I'd imagine that she was unlikey to wish to get into one of those
>after the "Sensual World" James Joyce Estate debacle.

>   This is one of those questions that she hasn't been asked, and if
>asked, is unlikely to answer. Is there a Level 42 mailing list or
>newsgroups where Alan Murphy fans can be asked this?

>- --
>Chris Williams of
>Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago
>chrisw@miso.wwa.com
>"How perfectly goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure." - C. Crumb

>------------------------------

>From: Wieland Willker <willker@chemie.uni-bremen.de>
>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:13:26 -0100
>Subject: Background voices on -eh- Lily

>Hello friends,

>Mandy "Pandy" Heath asked about the background voices of BSL:

>> Is it just me, or do I hear the background voices in Big Stripey Lie 
>> saying something like "No more funny cigarettes"? 

>and Roy J. Smith added:
>>If you're talking about the voices at the 1:47 mark and again 
>>at the 2:39 mark, no, I don't hear "funny cigarettes" at all. 
>>Perhaps a Dreaming Plug(tm) would be of help here.  Anyone 
>>have one handy? 

>Kerry White added:
>>I tried to make a Dreaming Plug, but once taped it won't fit. 

>It's a bit tricky, yes. I think it only works with the big ones, not with
>the small ones. 

>>However I 
>>have a surround-sound decoder, and OOP sounds are treated as back-channel.
>>I just turn the front-back knob to full back and crank up the volume. 
>>BSL at those times sounds to me like, "Big bad lie". There are a *lot*
>>of production levels going on, even 'back' there, and a solidly conclusive
>>determination can't be made,IMHO. "Don't smoke funny cigarettes" has too 
>>many syllables to be even close. 

>You're right on everything.
>I tried it with my Dreaming Plug(tm) and you can hear it much better than
>the normal way. To me it sounds like "Beer that of" or so (Just what I
>hear). What this could possibly mean? No idea. The first two I could hear
>as "Big Bad" but "Lie"? It would fit perfect, but I just can't hear it good
>enough. 

>After many hard hours on lots of sites Mandy added:

>>Oops!!! When I said I heard funny background voices on Big Striey Lie, I 
>>actually meant to say Lily!! 

>Hmmm, but I've already filed you under: "People who have absolutely not
>the slightest idea what they are talking about."  :-) 
>(But nevertheless a good opportunity to listen again carefully to "Big
>Stripey Lie"!)

>Okay, "Lily" then: I think you mean 2:59 and the following? Just after the
>"Rrrrrh" sound? It's first: "This is my space!" What then follows: ????
>It's either:
>1. "Exactly. Exactly." or
>2. "This is my place. This is my place." or
>3. "This is left side. This is right side." or
>4. "Whose at right?"(right speaker) "Whose at left?" (left speaker)
>or something else... (even maybe "funny cigarettes").
>I personally believe none of the above is correct. 
>The other background vocal I can make out is at 3:25-3:27: some throttle
>sounds then "...ex".

>With the Dreaming Plug "Lily" is a trip! Really!!
>  
>E A T   T H E   M U S I C ! ! !

>Best wishes
>    Wieland


>------------------------------

>From: Wieland Willker <willker@chemie.uni-bremen.de>
>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:30:10 -0100
>Subject: A warning

>I just heard something from a friend... 
>and I would like to recommend:
>No more rude jokes about KaTe please!

>Otherwise:
>Your life's not worth a rush anymore.
>The knights of KaTe are gathering in the forest at dusk...
>Whispers ("The power of KaTe is with us always to the end of the age."),
>torches, droning sounds, weapons of all kinds (one labeled ExpIV), you can
>see IED in his 100 kW 18-wheeler and the half speed master of TNW, they
>are also equipped with VaGFLO's (Variable Gravitational Fields of Local
>Operation), known to the public as 'GAFFA' (GrAvitational Forces Field
>Attenuator). Their newest weapon is a "Dimension-Folder" aka "George the
>Wipe". (In case you're interested: It operates using isolated super-high
>energy Superstrings of n+1 dimension. Coming in contact with the target
>they collapse back into n dimensions and you're just - gone. Well not
>completely gone, but turned into an elementary particle of less then 
>1 E-39 m length, which is not very much.)

>Once set out, even KaTe can't stop them anymore. 
>And: They will win.

>A messenger came:
>"The Kateians are coming!
> I've seen their cross in the west!"
>...
>They started the battle at dawn, taking the city by storm,
>With horsemen and bowman and engines of war,
>They broke through the city walls,
>The Heathens were flying and screaming and dying,
>And the Kateian swords were strong,
>...
>and when they saw East Wickham Farm,
>they fell to their knees 
>and I heard their victory song:
>W E   A R E   I N V I N C I B L E .   K A T E   I S   G O D !
>W E   A R E   I N V I N C I B L E .   A N D   W E   W I L L   W I N !

>(from 'Crusader', btw. produced by Andrew Powell, 1979!)

>As I said, this is only a warning...


>------------------------------

>From: violet@slip.net
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 02:37:13 -0800
>Subject: Looking for Mr. Goodbar (no Kate content)

>Sorry to post this here, but would the person known as "white_samurai"
>please e-mail me?  The address that I have for you is no longer valid.

>Violet

>        + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
>        +                                               +
>        +    "Give me coffee, and no one gets hurt."    +
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>From: Wieland Willker <willker@chemie.uni-bremen.de>
>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:43:02 -0100
>Subject: October Project + Sampler (with KaTe, for Uli)

>I accidently discovered :

>October Project
>"Falling Farther In"
>Sony Music, 1995

>and for Uli: 
>(will there ever be a discography of KaTe on the net?)

>"All Woman Vol.2"
>- -TWW

>"The Best of All Woman"
> -TMWTCIHE

>both from 'Quality' (no more info available, sorry (jpc).

>And I got a promo picture disc of L&A (with the rose) for DM 14.95 on a flea
>market!
>There's NO LAUGH! :-(

>Best wishes
>    Wieland



>------------------------------

>From: chrisw@miso.wwa.com (Chris Williams)
>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 10:57:50 GMT
>Subject: Re: Mon choux marche avec...

>>In article <960315180704_246984538@emout06.mail.aol.com> IEDSRI@aol.com
>writes:
>>>The second syllable would be the latter half of a poetic pronunciation of
>the
>>>word "marche" (as "marche-euh", so to speak) -- a stylistic nicety that Kate
>>>Bush made sporadic use of in "Un Baiser d'enfant" and "Ne t'enfuis pas". 
>>>
>>
>>It's been eight or nine years since my last class in French Literature,
>>but as I recall, the poetic pronunciation of 'marche' only applies when
>>the following word begins with a consonant or an aspirate h.  For example,
>>the phrase 'marche vite' (walks quickly) would be pronounced 'mar=che vite'.
>>However, 'marche avec' (walks with), ought to be pronounced 'marche a-vec',
>>since 'avec' begins with a vowel.
>> 
>>I hate to be nitpicky about this (as if no one were EVER nitpicky on
>>r.m.g.  ;) ;) ;), but surely Kate is more careful with her French 
>>pronunciation than this.  

>   Ever since "Ne t'enfuis pas" and "Un Baiser d'enfant" first appeared
>various French speaking Kate fans have been picking apart Kate's
>pronunciation. As she's never lived in a French-speaking area (except
>for the time at Superbear Studios recording Lionheart) we have no
>idea how often she's able to use her French. I don't recall her ever
>being interviewed in the language on any of the French TV shows.

>   I don't know how much French she had in school. I'll have to assume
>that it was no more than the average amount a typical English student
>would get in a convent school.

>   The only French-speaking Love-Hound who thinks differently is IED.
>He is of the opinion that Kate's pronunciation is perfect and it's the
>*French* who have it wrong, and need to change.

>- --
>Chris Williams of
>Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago
>chrisw@miso.wwa.com
>"How perfectly goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure." - C. Crumb

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