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From: Wieland Willker <willker@chemie.uni-bremen.de>
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 15:49:37 -0100
Subject: PHOENIX - The Kate Bush Demos, Part 1: History
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P H O E N I X
The Kate Bush Demos, Part 1: History
- My Magical Mystery Demo Tour -
Hello friends,
what follows is my first attempt to write some kind of Kate-Bush-DEMOS-FAQ,
to shed some light on the mystery of the 'early demos' aera. It is very
interesting but also sad to see, how little concrete we know and can know
about this period, only 20-25 years ago. It's almost as unsure as the
history of the New Testament, which is 2000 years ago.
I think PHOENIX is an appropriate title for this text. I will try to keep it
up-to-date. Everything is (together with the latest Demo-Lyrics update)
available from me on request in the future.
Everybody who can contribute: Speak up NOW, before everything will be
forgotten for ever. PDFM? Do you think, Kate will tell us something, when you
publish a revised version of this in HG?
Some questions:
- What happened exactly in the period, I described below as the 'second
recording' (Gilmour piano session)?
- From which session comes the tape XX XX illegally presented to the public
in 1982?
- Did all the 23 demos we know today, come from one and the same tape?
I assume Organic Acid comes from another source!
- Where did the 'Early Years' demos come from? The PTA-session? How did
this tape find its way to Germany?
- Where did the Kick Inside demos come from?
- Submission for approval!!!!
Note: I anonymised the name of the evil DJ (XX XX), though everybody, who is
a little bit
familiar with the story knows it anyway.
P H O E N I X
T H E K A T E B U S H D E M O S
T H E H I S T O R Y
Sources: IED, Ron Hill, PDFM, LH-archive, Amazing Pudding Special.
THE BEGINNING:
At about 1969, 11 year old Kate begins to play on the piano and starts writing
poems. By 1971 she starts writing ballads and slow songs such as TMWTCIHE or
Saxophone Song.
Kate:
"I just started poking around at the piano and started making up little songs."
"I found it very frustrating being treated like a child when I wasn't
thinking like
a child. From the age of ten I felt old. I became very shy at school...".
"When I was 14, I started taking it seriously, and began to treat the words
to the
songs as poetry."
THE FIRST RECORDINGS:
In 1972 Kate recorded several tapes of songs (more than 30 songs per tape, some
sources say 60 altogether, Kate once said "...I had, say like 50 songs...".
Some said up to 200 songs). 20-30 of these songs were presented via JCB's
friend Ricky Hopper,
first without success to record companies, then to Gilmour. Gilmour noticed her
talent, but also the bad tape recorder quality (this is from a Gilmour "Q"
interview
around Sept '90, I don't have this!).
*********************************
IED! Pleeeeaase, transcribe this invaluable interview for us!! Pleeease!
You must
have it somewhere!
*********************************
THE SECOND RECORDING: ('GILMOUR PIANO SESSION')
This session took place at Kate's house with Gilmour. Only Kate and piano, with
a better recorder. There are at least two Gilmour-interview confirmations
about this
session (Q and CHEZ canadian radio). I think this is the session, Kate had
in mind,
when she said: "Absolutely terrified and trembling like a leaf, I sat down
and played
for him."
But Gilmour also once said re this [?] session: (IED stating from the
Q-interview:)
"He paid to have Kate go into a studio and re-record some fifty songs over
again.
(again, apparently, solo with her own piano accompaniment-- not, it seems, with
Gilmour and his musician friends at Gilmour's house)." (1990)
Gilmour in a canadian radio interiew: "I did some recording at her house, her
parent's house, and then I had her up to my studio and recorded some things."
(1983)
This is a bit confusing. It seems to be sure, that Gilmour visited Kate at
her home
and listened to her songs. I also think, they recorded something. Did
Gilmour visited
Kate more than once? Did he brought a recorder at the first meeting? What is
this
about the piano studio session? It seems unlikely IMHO, to insert yet
another session
here. Nothing is well confirmed so far.
********************
IED, please transcribe the Q-interview! Has anybody else any other quotes?
********************
So far, we have no indication to which of these two early sessions our 23 demo
songs belong. IED once said, they belong to the second, because of the good
quality,
but this is not sure, because we don't know, if this second recording made
it to EMI.
THE THIRD RECORDING: ('Passing Through Air', PTA-SESSION)
In August 1973 at Gilmour's farm with two "Unicorn" band members: drummer
Peter Perrier and bassist Pat Martin, and Gilmour electric guitar. According to
Gilmour (Q) ca. 10-20 songs have been recorded. This tape definitely made it
to EMI.
Besides PTA also the first version of "Maybe" has been recorded.
(this version was presented by Kate in part on Personal Call, 1979:
[A portion "Maybe" is played]
Ed: Kate had a very wistful look on her face. Why was that?
K: I was waiting for the flat note in the middle. [Laughs]
Ed: Ah, you mean we faded it just in time!
K: No, you caught it actually, I'm sure... )
Kate 1978 re Maybe: "pretty awful."
1990, Bush Con: "It had a couple of titles..."Maybe". ...there was an -
"Humming",
it was called as well.")
PTA later appeared as a B-side of Army Dreamers.
Kate: "This was the first time I'd ever done an overdub with the keyboard..."
It seems that ten recordings of this session are on the mysterious 'Early
Years'
LP. It is not clear, if the titles are given by Kate. Maybe they are only
guesses from
the bootleggers (e.g. Need Your Loving = PTA)
Early Years collection [HG xx?]:
1. Something Like a Song.
2. Need Your Loving. [=Passing Through Air]
3. Davy (or Davey).
[= Maybe, Humming?, not While Davy Dozed?]
4. You Were the Star.
5. Gay Farewell.
6. Cussi Cussi.
7. Atlantis. [maybe Organic Acid?]
8. Sunsi.
9. Disbelieving Angel.
10. Go Now While You Can.
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From: Scott Telford <s.telford@ed.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 07:44:40 -0700
Subject: The Early Years - the mystery deepens....
In the May Record Collector, there's a review of Robert Godwin's "Illustrated
Collectors Guide". The reviewer (the editor, David somebody) starts off by
recalling
that he once held a copy of The Early Years in his own hands and remembering
that
all the tracks were listed as being written by *someone* *else* - a woman as he
recalls. This is news to me. IED's discography doesn't mention this
possibility. It
seems very unlikely that KaTe was singing other peoples songs at that age -
maybe
she was using a pseudonym?
---------------
THE FOURTH RECORDING: (3-SONG-SESSION)
In June 1975 Gilmour booked a professional studio (AIR London), brought
Andrew Powell to arrange and produce the songs and hired top musicians to back
Kate.
They recorded TMWTCIHE, Saxophone Song and Maybe. This tape finally was
Kate's breakthrough at EMI. The first two songs appeared on The Kick Inside.
-----------
Kate began work on her first album in July 1977.
KT Bush band performances around London.
----------
1977 DEMO SESSIONS
Kate Bush Complete states that "during the first year of the [EMI] contract
Kate
makes two further demo tapes." Whether these were piano demos, more fully
produced demos, or both, is unknown. PDFM?
A confusing sentence from Amazing Pudding:
"These recordings [her own early recordings] are thought to be live, single
track
recordings as opposed to demos Kate was to make at home [!] four years
later [!],
which were two track recordings (two separate tape recorders having been
connected)."
IED:
"IED believes that the demos probably date from a somewhat later period,
because in both PTA and Maybe Kate's voice is a little timid and uncertain,
and does
not venture into her now-long-since-abandoned-but-historic falsetto range
(which is
at its prime in these demos). Also, although IED is the first to admit
loving Passing
Through Air, and especially Maybe, he thinks it would be silly to try to
argue that
either of those songs--particularly PTA --is as complex or as stylistically
singular as
any of the 23 solo-demos."
I think, this argument is supported by the fact, that 5 songs, which appear
on The
Kick Inside, Lionheart AND Never for Ever [!] (Violin!), can be found on the
demo
tape!
On the other hand, if the collection dates from 1977, then we must accept the
notion that Kate was re-recording songs (such as "Something Like a Song" and
"Disbelieving Angel") which she had already composed four or even five years
earlier, and which she had recorded during her PTA-session in the summer of
1973.
This is possible, of course, but unlikely.
***************************
So, the origin of our PIANO DEMOS is completely unclear. We can only say for
sure, they date from the period 1972-1977.
***************************
-------------------
The Kick Inside Recording Sessions:
July, August 1977. The actual recording sessions for the album.
------------------
THE KICK INSIDE DEMOS
These recordings are of a far more refined and polished type, and are fully
orchestrated and produced. They would seem to have been recorded 1977, and are
probably among the many tracks which were worked on prior to the final
selection
of the thirteen songs on The Kick Inside. Five of the titles are familiar:
- Moving
- Don't Push Your Foot on the Heart Brake
- L'Amour Looks Something Like You
- Kite
- Strange Phenomena
- Scares Me Silly (But It Gets Me Going)
This sixth track is an unreleased song. It is extremely bouncy and catchy,
laden
with melodic hooks. Its lyrics are fascinating, as well (they describe the
challenge of
retaining the original spark of feeling of a song during the recording
process).
OTHER DEMOS:
Finally, there are two known demo versions of the song "Babooshka". Excerpts
from the demos were apparently played by Kate herself on a BBC radio programme
ca. 1980 [?]. Both are almost exactly 2 min. long. The first demo of
"Babooshka"
features Kate on piano, and she has added one backing vocal during the
choruses.
The second version has a percussion pattern from an early rhythm-box, and
features
a synthesizer and, in addition to the lead vocal, at least two over-dubbed
backing
vocals.
FAKES
The only song falsely presented so far as a Kate Bush song is "Turkish
Delight":
Homeground No. 32, p. 8:
"A track which has appeared on certain 'instant' tape cassette bootlegs
recently
has caused some puzzlement. The name of the track is 'Turkish Delight'. It
isn't
written or performed by Kate. It was recorded by an outfit called 'China
Doll', and
it was released by EMI (Parlophone) as a single in July 1983. It was a cold
methodical
rip-off of an accountant's view of what constituted the 'Kate Bush Style'.
DJs who
could not find space for Tenner on their programmes, found space for this
travesty,
introducing it as 'the new Kate Bush single' (yet another one). We thought it
sounded like Faith Brown doing an impression of Pamela Stephenson doing an
impression of Kate on a bad day. ..."
To me it sounds even now quite good. I wasn't sure for some weeks although
I noticed some slight differences in the voice.
T H E S O U R C E S O F T H E D E M O S
1. THE PIANO DEMOS:
>From the April/May * 1984 * issue of Breakthrough:
From: Cortina Bandolero
"Dear Dale and cohorts at Breakthrough,
Here in Phoenix there is quite a sizable awareness of Kate. This would be an
ideal city for EMI to sponser a "Bush Bash". There are import stores here
where the
import LPs, the Hammersmith-Odeon video and the 45 Box Set can be readily
found.
Also there's a small but loyally followed radio station, KSTM, which isn't
averse to
playing Kate's songs. In * 1982 * when local DJ XX XX was at KSTM, he aired
an hour of Kate's rarities which included some of her very early solo-piano
work.
He had worked for EMI at the time of Kate's initial signing, and aquired the
tapes
then. There were some real surprises for collectors, including an altered
version of
Hammer Horror and another song with a refrain about "playing canasta in cold
rooms." Does anyone know anything about this rare song? ...Now I'm off to write
the KB club!"
2. THE KICK INSIDE DEMOS:
No idea. Maybe also XX XX?
3. BABOOSHKA DEMOS:
Presumably from a BBC radio programme around 1980, in which Kate played
parts of these songs. PDFM? Date?
T H E S O N G T I T L E S
Nobody knows Kate's titles. They are only guesses. The following early sources
are known: [Many other obscure, but wrong labelings appeared later on CD's and
LP's.]
THE PHOENIX BROADCAST 1982:
The Phoenix broadcast titles seem to be the nearest to the original because I
think, XX XX read them directly from the original [!] tape!
Bryan Dongray, you have a recording of this broadcast. Can you listen again and
tell us everything. you know about it? What is the DJ telling us about, how
he got
hands on the tape? E.g. did he really say "Rinfi", and not maybe "Rinfrey"
or so, like in
the song?
Phoenix broadcast (Often referred to as:)
1. It Hurts Me (Feeling Like a Waltz )
2. Stranded at the Moonbase (Keeping Me Waiting )
3. Surrender into the Roses (Carmilla)
4. Rinfi the Gypsy (Playing Canasta in Cold Rooms)
5. On Fire Inside a Snowball (Hot in the Ice )
6. Dali (Ferry me over )
7. Where Are the Lionhearts (On the Rocks )
8. The Gay Farewell (Eddie the Queen )
9. Something Like a Song (In my Garden )
10. Come Closer to Me Babe (Who is Sylvia? )
11. So Soft (You're Soft )
12. Rare Flower (Don't See Why I Shouldn't (Pick the Rare Flower) )
13. While Davy Dozed (Davy )
Also a mail from a person, I can unfortunately only refer to as
nudeadguy@aol.com (NudeAdGuy) [can you hear me?] seems to indicate, that the
writer actually HAS SEEN the box of this original tape. It appeared to me
that he
lives in Phoenix or so. Can anybody confirm or deny this?
***************
NudeAdGuy! You have seen the original tape? Do you think it's an original? Are
the titles handwritten? ...
***************
------
From: nudeadguy@aol.com (NudeAdGuy)
Date: 3 Oct 1995 15:42:30 -0400
Subject: Demos Re: "Snowbound..."
According to the box that stored the master tape copy that was played on the
radio down here in Phoenix some years ago (and which I copied on tape), the
song is
called "On fire inside a snowball," not "Snow Bowl" or "Snowbound," or anything
else.
-----
From: nudeadguy@aol.com (NudeAdGuy)
Date: 5 Oct 1995 14:17:35 -0400
Subject: re "Snowbound..."
FYI--I had a tape of this radio braodcast at least a year before the "Cathy"
Demos
started appearing in illicit record stores in my area. I, too, bought that
demo on
colored vinyl to see if the quality was any better than the low-power radio
broadcast
that I had. (It is.)
So, yes, I do have an inside lead--the DJ was a guy named XX XX, who goes
by Johnny D on the air and he's a big Kate fan and former employee of Capitol
Records, which is where he got the tape.
Incidentally, I saw him at a local record convention recently where he
showed me
EMI acetates of "Man with the Child" and another song, I think "Kite." They
weren't for sale, by the way. He just likes to pull them out so Kate fans
like us can
drool on them. (He has no idea what he would ask for them even if he was
going to
sell them!)
For the record, here's the songs on the tape I have, with the titles as
listed on the
tape box, as read by the DJ:
duration from Home Demo CD --WIE:
1. The Kick Inside, 3'39
2. Hammer Horror, 2'41
3. It Hurts Me, 2'54
4. Stranded at the Moonbase, 2'52
5. Kashka from Baghdad, 2'30
6. Surrender into the Roses, 1'28
7. Oh To Be In Love, 3'07
8. Rinfi the Gypsy, 4'07
9. On Fire Inside a Snowball, 2'27
10. Dali, 3'03
11. Where Are the Lionhearts, 2'23
12. Violin, 2'07
13. The Craft of Love, 2'56
14. The Gay Farewell, 2'27
15. Something Like a Song, 2'10
16. Frightened Eyes, 3'15
17. Disbelieving Angel, 2'10
18. Nevertheless, You'll Do, 1'57
19. Come Closer to Me Babe, 3'47
20. So Soft, 2'46
21. Rare Flower, 2'59
22. While Davy Dozed. 3'09
-----
60'54
-------------End of Mail--------------------------------------------------
So, I think, what we have here, appeared to be the track-listing of Kate's
original
demo tape. They appear to be legitimate, though none of us can be certain of
course.
It is also interesting to mention, that "Organic Acid" (5'45) is missing.
When you calculate the duration of the whole thing you come to something like
60'54 minutes. This indicates a C60 tape. So, maybe Organic Acid comes from
another tape?
----------------
From: nudeadguy@aol.com (NudeAdGuy)
Date: 10 Oct 1995 13:25:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Phoenix demo tape broadcast
[re Dali/Darling:]
Just listened to the tape--he definitely says, "Dali," but that doesn't mean
he's
right. This broadcast was in the wee hours of the morning, and the light in
a radio
station isn't always the best.
Reading from the box, he also says, "Kashka from Baldad," apparently a typo on
the box. So Dali could be a typo from some long forgotten stenographer at EMI.
----------------
*********************************
Bryan or NudeAdGuy, can you please transcribe, what the DJ has to say? Pleease!
*********************************
THE 'FIDDLE' TAPE/CD:
IED: "Fiddle" is the title of an early (1988?) cassette-only bootleg of 22
of the
demos, which IED picked up at a record swapmeet. From your description both
"Fiddle" and "Alone At My Piano" [CD] appear to stem from the same source
(perhaps the Phoenix FM broadcast).
DUTCH FANZINE 'KATE:
In the May '89 issue of the Dutch Kate Bush fanzine Kate, co-editor Theo Haast
reports for the first time the six Kick Inside Demos:
duration from CD:
1. Moving 2'37
2. Don't Push Your Foot on the Heartbrake 2'50
3. Kite 2'44
4. L'Amour Looks Something Like You 2'08
5. Strange Phenomena 2'40
6. Scares Me Silly (But It Gets Me Going) 3'11
-----
16'10
CONCLUSION: MUCH CONFUSION! :-)
But seriously:
We know for sure that:
- Gilmour visited Kate at East Wickham Farm.
- the Piano Demos are from around 1972-77
- the Kick Inside Demos are from around 1975-77
- all available versions of the 22 piano demos mentioned above steam from XX
XXs tape.
We can presume (but not for sure) that
- Gilmour recorded something with Kate at East Wickham Farm. It's not clear if
this conceivable tape has been sent to EMI.
- it is more likely that the piano demos are from around 1972/73.
- the song titles from the Phoenix broadcast are Kate's own titles.
- Organic Acid is from another tape.
- the 'Early Years LP is from the PTA-session.
- the Kick Inside demos are from 1977.
- the Babooshka demos are from a 1980 BBC radio programme
It is completely unclear
- how often Gilmour visited Kate.
- if Gilmour sent Kate to a studio to do professional piano demos (only one
unclear
interview confirmation. IED?)
- from which of the early 1972/73 sessions our piano demos come from.
- to which song the following titles from 'The Early Years' refer to: You
Were the
Star, Cussi Cussi, Atlantis, Sunsi, Go Now While You Can. They seem to be
completely unknown songs.
- what the Record Collector's editor is refering to re the writer of the
songs (see
above, Scott's mail).
- who offered and bootlegged the Kick Inside demos (maybe XX XX, too?)
What we need most of all:
- Kate in her own voice!
- an official release of all demos with official lyrics and comments on each
song!
- a transcription of the Phoenix broadcast!
- the Q interview!
- more early Gilmour-interviews!
Nevertheless, despite all the mysteries:
*******************************
These demos show without the slightest doubt, that God Incarnate is living
among
us! Anyone who is less than absolutely convinced of this is a bloody idiot.
*******************************
Best wishes
Wieland
"You want my reply?
What was the question?"
(Kate re the demos)
-----------
It is now universally acknowledged that the only thing in life worth wasting
any
thought on at all is Kate Bush. Everything else is just killing time.
There is no question whatever of the truth of this judgement, which is
unanimous, absolute and irrevocable.
----------
KTISGOD.