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From: "Mark A. Semich" <mas@cs.bu.edu>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct MVM-A.D. 10:38:36 -0400
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 10:38:33 -0400
Subject: Info on the SPAM Man... (No KaTe KonTent)
To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net
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Reply-To: mas@cs.bu.edu (Mark A. Semich)
Many apologies for the Non-Kate KonTent - but these magazine spam attacks are *extremely* annoying and I wanted to get this out. This is some info about the attacks that has recently been forwarded around: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 18:12:44 -0700 From: Gregory Miller <gam@inherent.com> To: tech-law@techlaw.TechLaw.Com Subject: Re: Final SPAM FollowUp From Me Gentle Readers one more time: First, my thanks to the many of you who wrote me with your thanks, ideas and suggestions. I could not possibly begin to acknowledge all the mail. I want to point out that this list and its providers do NOT CONDONE SPAMMING OR RETRIBUTION BEYOND THE LAW. Courteous Email messages are fine requesting a cease and desist, but nothing more. What we know now, is that Janet Dove and Patricia Eng are neither; they ACTUALLY are Kevin Lipsitz. Here is a .signature we found of Kevin Lipsitz which you may want to file away for reference. Obviously, kjl.com is his own site; his own machine. Complaining to 'postmaster@kjl.com' will probably not do much good :-) > Kevin Jay Lipsitz, President :-) > > KRAZY KEVIN MAGAZINE CLUB, > THE INTERNET DIVISION OF COLLEGETOWN MAGAZINE SUBSCRIPTION SERVICES: > "Managing Magazines for Cost-Conscious Busy Professionals, Students, > Educators and Regular Consumers Internationally Since 1973." > krazykev@kjl.com Note he has the nerve to call himself "The Internet division of Collegetown Magazine Subscription Services" ... busy professionals, busy students ...just like Janet Dove and Patricia Eng, right? Remember that you can contact Kevin to discuss his approach to mass marketing by phoning 718-967-1234. Listening to his greeting on that line alone is worth the phone call. You can probably find him at: 350 Richmond Terrace #5-P Staten Island, NY 10301 or at least the people there will know how to contact him. The phone there is 718-442-3260. Also, 718-967-1144 is supposed to be a fax machine he uses. You'll also want to inquire from authorities in New York State and Staten Island (local government) regards if his business is registered properly. And don't forget inquiries to the Staten Island postmaster as well. You know, based on what I'm hearing in the net.rumor mill amongst the Administrators and pundits that track this stuff (and the same was true for Canter & Seigel last year), this guy spoofs up some Email and reaches 9 million AOL users, 1.75 million Compuserve users, and Lord knows how many millions of straight Internet users with his mass mailing at a price that is microscopic compared to what he would have paid to do it on the WEB, which would be microscopic compared to what he would've paid to use the U.S. bulk mails. In so doing, rumor has it that he gets back something like 20,000 subscription requests and another 40,000 catalog requests ... all for which he collects $3.50 and $.75 each from the Magazine Company he MOONLIGHTS for. DINE N' DASH on the INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY. He dined on a feast of millions of users, most unsuspecting that this is unacceptable behavior, and dashed away with what, $100,000.00 !? Is it any wonder that others will try this? What a return! And folks, the Internet should NOT sit still for it. Why? Because in the end, someone has to pay for all that Internet traffic. And it wasn't HIM. So write your Congresspersons, let's consider some legislation (ugh, if we dare :-), or something to put some teeth into the consequences of deciding to shake up the Net for a few grand. Final note on Jeff Slaton: he is apparently employed by (of all companies) US-West in Albuquerque, but US-West has put him on leave at this time, and he has been out of the office for awhile. His supervisor and others there have apparently received _lots_ of correspondence and phone calls regarding Jeff, so there is no need to bother them further. As an aside, his social security number was issued in Wisconsin. Perhaps he grew up there. NOW, how about getting back on topic of this List Service... Technology & Law...like maybe something about the new criminal element on the InfoBahn, and how to address it? ;-) Seriously, I think there is a lot to be said without being overly passionate regarding the whole notion of the role of the Government, Federal Law, State Law, and regulation as it applies to crime on the InfoBahn. Hey, it was at the close of the last century that laws were finally tough enough to curtail stagecach robberies. :-) And we're about to embark on the 21st. Later Gregory Miller ___________________________ :// Inherent.Com Inherent Technologies, Inc. Goose Hollow District Jefferson Office Park 503-224-6751 2110 SW Jefferson Street 503-224-8872 (Fax) 3rd Floor info@inherent.com Portland, Oregon USA 97201 http://www.inherent.com Internet Legal Information Systems ------------------------------