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From: chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu (Chris Williams)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 95 08:40:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Be Kind to IED's. . . Gaffas?!
To: love-hounds@uunet.uu.net
Organization: None to speak of
IED writes:
>About Gaffa: IED is embarrassed. He used to be a student of
>Chris Williams's dictum on this issue, believing
>that the word had some specific but unshared meaning
>other than its ostensible one: "gaffer's tape". IED
>believed this primarily because -- well, he now
>(after how many years now, |>oug?) concedes, just because!
>
>The argument which Chris has just put forward to defend
>the protestant theory has, however (and to IED's regret), revealed its
>essential weaknesses, and is, moreover, offensive
>to this fan. It is based on assumptions, not evidence. And one
>of those assumptions, apparently, is that Kate is some kind
>of pathological liar whose own statements can be discounted
>whenever they don't suit a fan's theory.
No, Kate has *specifically* stated that she is a human, in the
_Kate Bush-On Tour_ interview. Perhaps IED can reconcile his doctrine
of Kate's divinity with Kate's own self-professed humanity.
I feel very confident of the following:
Kate is human
Humans lie
Kate lies
Sad, but true.
>Although IED takes due note of Chris's citations of the incidence of
>untruths in the Word of Kate Bush, he cannot see in them any real
>foundation for Chris's conclusion that her statement about "Gaffa" (or
>"gaffa") should be included among those untruths.
It's just a theory. My theory, my thesis if you will. I have plenty
of them.
>(Questions of relative stickiness, etc., do not bear discussion.)
>The reason we know that Kate has -- rarely -- spoken untruthfully is
>because we can produce indisputable evidence contradicting her
>statements in those cases. (We should remember also that journalists
>have been known to misquote her.) Unless we can do the same in this
>case, we have no business (in IED's present opinion) *assuming* that she
>has lied about "G/gaffa" -- particularly when her explanation makes good
>sense.
Her "gaffa" tape explanation is only one of the explanations she has
offered. To my knowledge, she has *never* offered both the "gaffer's
tape"
explanation and the "struggling with her own errors and limitations" one
in the same interview.
Where's Ron Hill when we need him.
>So: we are to believe that Kate simply "couldn't" have used the word so
>cavalierly in a song of such seriousness, and that therefore -- she
>didn't; and: we are to explain away her statement that the word means
>"gaffer's tape" -- because "Kate lies". Given both the weakness and the
>unsavoriness of this argument, coupled with an extremely convincing
>recent posting by |>oug /\lan on the subject, IED must, at least
>conditionally, reverse his position and seek re-admission to the
>literalist camp. Frankly, he is a bit ashamed to have played hooky from
>so sensible, humble and honorable a school of thought for so long.
When I pull up the contexts of the various explanations of _Suspended
In Gaffa_ and relate her choice of explanation to the quality and
thoroughness of the interview, I will be happy to welcome you back to
my camp.
>He would, however, greatly appreciate it if someone could
>follow up on this business of the use of the word "Gaffa"
>in the Tree of Life, or whatever it is.
I, for one, would like to have a phonetic pronunciation of the
Hebrew word.
Chris Williams of
Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago
chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu (his)
vickie@njin.rutgers.edu (hers)