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From: mgates@entiat.boeing.com (Michael Gates)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 19:28:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Magic 107 oops, real science
In-Reply-To: jorn@chinet.chi.il.us's message of Wed, 31 Mar 1993 14:52:31 -0500
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Bellevue, WA
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I missed the beginning of this thread, so excuse me if I am completely misinterpreting things. These two paragraphs are the closest to expressing the problem I find in your statements. > My experience is that when my emotional state is *clear*, I can see > into things' endless depths, and by extrapolation, if perfect clarity > could be attained, to *everything* that's ever left any imprint on > them. [other stuff deleted] > I want to distinguish hiss that's added by external means, and hiss > that's written by the read-mechanism. It's the latter that seems > inherently 2-way to me, for vinyl and tape, but not for digital. I have no criticism (surprise!) of your basic statement that you can percieve "psychic" (for lack of a more concise term) imprints left on tapes that were experienced deeply. The problem is that you are illogically (to my mind) denying that CD's are amenable to this. While criticizing your detractors for succumbing to empirical/ scientific "dogmas" in their attacks on your position, you appeal to these same "dogmas" in your attack on CD's. Mixing arguments about read-mechanisms and binary formats with statements about subtle channels of perception connecting you to your fave tapes can only lead to muddy thinking and arbitrary misunderstandings. You can't have it both ways. Either the phenomenon of the spirit obey the scientific "rules" and your critics' arguments are sound, or they do not and your criticism of CD's is unsound. I believe that it is the clarity of emotional state you mention above which is at issue with CD's. There is an ordering of perception precedence governing the realms in which we live. Physical sensations are at the coarse end, spiritual sensations are at the fine end. Coarse drowns out fine. It sounds to me like you might have an emotional bias against digital technology. If that is the case then its roar will certainly drown out the subtle sensations of "psychic" imprints. People who deny the spiritual realm are to be feared. CD technology is not. After all, how much colder is a tape than a live performance - yet you still feel very subtle spirit things from it. -- et tu mgates?