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From: How Gren Is My Toupee <jsd@GAFFA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 90 10:31:21 -0500
Subject: Re: hmm..sure sounds wrong to me
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Organization: The Zik Zak Corporation -- "Know Future"
References: <9003050924.AA23932@world.std.com>
Reply-To: jsd@gaffa.UUCP (Jon Drukman)
In article <9003050924.AA23932@world.std.com> katefans@world.std.COM (Chris'n'Vickie of Kansas City) writes: >Susan writes this about new vocal "Wuthering Heights": >> Furthermore, the strident voice of the original recording seems much >> more appropriate to the little virago that I've perceived Kate's >> Cathy to be. I think that whether or not people like the "new" vocal or the "classic coke" vocal take depends on whether or not they've read the book/seen the film or something. Unfortunately, I've done neither, thus for me the song is merely a piece of music, and I infinitely prefer the new one because it is a vastly superior production job. Those drums go BOOM! People who know the story know that Cathy is a ghost at this point, and thus they like that annoying banshee-screech little girl voice that Kate used on the first version. And, I find myself in the very strange position of agreeing with IED, for once! >IED responds: > >> Kate does _not_ sing a "wrong" note here! She has simply >> embellished--very deliberately--the F-natural of the earlier >> "Cath-" syllable so that it begins with a grace note of G-flat. >> There is _no_ question that she did this deliberately. Not only >> does it _sound_ good (_not_ "wrong"); but she has actually sung the I don't know how well trained the people are who are listening to this new version and hearing gaffes. I'm not the world's greatest musician, but I have a pretty good ear and it sounds fine to me. Better than fine. Perfect! IT is in no way, shape or form a wrong note. >Sorry IED. Susan, I agree with you wholeheartedly!! It sounded "wrong" >to me the first time I heard it and I winced. It still sounds wrong to >me and I still wince. Even if it's *supposed* to be right, who can tell? >IED can. Good for him. Even if it's *supposed* to be right, I still find >that note embarrassing and it completely ruins the song for me, even >though, up till then, I really like what she does with that version. Well, Vickie, you're crazy! Why wouldn't someone be able to tell whether or not a sung note is "right"? Are you saying there is no objective standard for whether or not a note is appropriate? Certainly in the pop form that Kate has chosen to work in, there is a bit of right and wrong! Maybe if Kate were just free-jazz scatting all over the place then we'd allow her a bit more leeway, but she's doing a pop tune. There are right notes and wrong notes. Nothing wrong with the one she's hit in Wuthering Heights... +---------------------- Is there any ESCAPE from NOISE? ----------------------+ | | |\ | jsd@gaffa.mit.edu | ZIK ZAK - We make everything you need, | | \|on |/rukman | jsd@umass.bitnet | and you need everything we make. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+